Like your theory
You have a fair point. I do my search on YouTube and whatever comes I watch it. He seems more logical than others. He has bais that could be there.
Bhai mere bahoot lamba jawab diya aapne. I try my best to not have a bais. We get data from reading and watching. I do not have good handle on Pakistan to know where to get real news. Every news person seems to have bias, some are anti some others are pro. The pro in their discussion look so biased that people like us start doubting them. So it’s a genuine problem. Not intentional.Oh ok for that 1, I owe you an apology that I missed a word heard. But bro I read your written preface intro where you said more than once I think, and how logical and unbiased you are. But after saying that you quoted a man who is the most biased and literally seems to be another spokesperson of MNS and Maryam bibi. Many of his theories proven to be fake and projections falsified. Due to Sethi's utter bias towards the MNS and how he use to flatter his big boss by completely knocking the logic out of the window.
Now I would like to enlighten you a bit about it's working procedure and historical facts.
At almost each capital abroad, the embassy of a state houses defense attaches, uniformed military officials as well as undercover intelligence agents along with all as usual foreign office staff. That's specially of significant importance when the subject country is a key geopolitical player or a major superpower.
When an outgoing ambassador of Pakistan, in a formal meeting met a senior US official, he was instructed to convey a message to the state of Pakistan and it's establishment. And there should be some officials assisting the ambassador in that meeting who record each and every bit of the conversation that's taken place. And it's been made part of the record. When the ambassador decides to cable the message back to his foreign office through encrypted communications , his each and every word is cross examined with that recorded form by by officials and finalized before sending the message. outgoing and incoming ambassadors conveyed the similar response from the US officials.
Then if a matter of national security or of grave concern is put up by the Govt or any other department of the Govt. It's the intelligence agencies, which determine it's authenticity through their global network and internal institutional correspondence and records. That's how Hussain Haqqani was charged and eventually convicted in memogate scandal case by the court.
Now apparently a weak, close to be ousted PM, his cabinet report a document through foreign office and brings it to the light. Now why would some of the most experienced and senior bureaucrats/diplomats would risk their own lives, their country's future for a minority PM by reporting those so called "fake"documents! When they know that they would be caught immediately and could be executed under the trial of high treason!
And Hina Rabbani Khar, a former foreign minister has already said that they used to receive these kinds of threats and PM IK is exaggerating it while we used to just cover it up. Everyone from the public of the Pakistan has witnessed the political leadership of the opposition parties constantly meeting with foreign diplomats, and they were also meeting them constantly in abroad and didn't even denied the fact. How many of the foreign diplomats constantly met ex-President Donald J. Trump during the recent political termoil there and when he was removed from the power with a lot of unnecessary drama! None.
Rana Sanaullah's volunteer confessional video statement to the media is part of the record too.
It's been historically recorded by our heads of state and Govt officials alike that US has been accustomed to $hit talk us in the most abusive manner possible to get the work done and had been constantly in touch with the non Governmental anti regime/anti state personalities to conspire against the state of the Pakistan. It's the historical fact. Can someone deny the phone call to the by then President General Musharraf, where he had been asked are you with us or against us and you could be bombed back to the stone age. That's been the norm of US-Pakistan relations untill the inexperienced, unconventional, entirely new regime of the IK arrived which hadn't any clue of it happening before. An anomaly as was Donald Trump to their as usual pro establishment regimes. That's part of the history which can never be changed.
By just connecting those dots, anyone can deduce a logical conclusion out of it by having just a grain of critical thinking and mediocre comprehension skills. There isn't any rocket science involved.
You would also notice that in most of my argument, I quoted well documented historical facts and statements from the powerful personalities of the Pakistan, not some random baseless self created hypothesis as many of our media "experts" tend to do.
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Even a playgroup kid can then join the dots and reach to the conclusion that it's in fact a butterfly and can never be giraffe or an elephant! Why? Because kids are innocent and unbiased
There are points of views everywhere. Even India has his point of view on Kashmir and their logic of annexing it. So has PTI and PPP/PMLN/JUIF group. The only question is who are you and who's side do you chose to stand on. Right and wrong are now evident as black and white, as Prophet SAWW said it will be near Qyamat.
Are you saying or not that this isn't a real document but a normal daily abusive spam sent through an email or fax machine? :-Oh ok for that 1, I owe you an apology that I missed a word heard. But bro I read your written preface intro where you said more than once I think, and how logical and unbiased you are. But after saying that you quoted a man who is the most biased and literally seems to be another spokesperson of MNS and Maryam bibi. Many of his theories proven to be fake and projections falsified. Due to Sethi's utter bias towards the MNS and how he use to flatter his big boss by completely knocking the logic out of the window.
Now I would like to enlighten you a bit about it's working procedure and historical facts.
At almost each capital abroad, the embassy of a state houses defense attaches, uniformed military officials as well as undercover intelligence agents along with all as usual foreign office staff. That's specially of significant importance when the subject country is a key geopolitical player or a major superpower.
When an outgoing ambassador of Pakistan, in a formal meeting met a senior US official, he was instructed to convey a message to the state of Pakistan and it's establishment. And there should be some officials assisting the ambassador in that meeting who record each and every bit of the conversation that's taken place. And it's been made part of the record. When the ambassador decides to cable the message back to his foreign office through encrypted communications , his each and every word is cross examined with that recorded form by by officials and finalized before sending the message. outgoing and incoming ambassadors conveyed the similar response from the US officials.
Then if a matter of national security or of grave concern is put up by the Govt or any other department of the Govt. It's the intelligence agencies, which determine it's authenticity through their global network and internal institutional correspondence and records. That's how Hussain Haqqani was charged and eventually convicted in memogate scandal case by the court.
Now apparently a weak, close to be ousted PM, his cabinet report a document through foreign office and brings it to the light. Now why would some of the most experienced and senior bureaucrats/diplomats would risk their own lives, their country's future for a minority PM by reporting those so called "fake"documents! When they know that they would be caught immediately and could be executed under the trial of high treason!
And Hina Rabbani Khar, a former foreign minister has already said that they used to receive these kinds of threats and PM IK is exaggerating it while we used to just cover it up. Everyone from the public of the Pakistan has witnessed the political leadership of the opposition parties constantly meeting with foreign diplomats, and they were also meeting them constantly in abroad and didn't even denied the fact. How many of the foreign diplomats constantly met ex-President Donald J. Trump during the recent political termoil there and when he was removed from the power with a lot of unnecessary drama! None.
Rana Sanaullah's volunteer confessional video statement to the media is part of the record too.
It's been historically recorded by our heads of state and Govt officials alike that US has been accustomed to $hit talk us in the most abusive manner possible to get the work done and had been constantly in touch with the non Governmental anti regime/anti state personalities to conspire against the state of the Pakistan. It's the historical fact. Can someone deny the phone call to the by then President General Musharraf, where he had been asked are you with us or against us and you could be bombed back to the stone age. That's been the norm of US-Pakistan relations untill the inexperienced, unconventional, entirely new regime of the IK arrived which hadn't any clue of it happening before. An anomaly as was Donald Trump to their as usual pro establishment regimes. That's part of the history which can never be changed.
By just connecting those dots, anyone can deduce a logical conclusion out of it by having just a grain of critical thinking and mediocre comprehension skills. There isn't any rocket science involved.
You would also notice that in most of my argument, I quoted well documented historical facts and statements from the powerful personalities of the Pakistan, not some random baseless self created hypothesis as many of our media "experts" tend to do.
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Even a playgroup kid can then join the dots and reach to the conclusion that it's in fact a butterfly and can never be giraffe or an elephant! Why? Because kids are innocent and unbiased
Army is being neutral to an unpopular government which lost support and confidence of the people. The extraordinary rise in inflation and poor economy is disenfranchising the vote bank hence the frivolous uprising.
Your objections to that document stand falsified till this date. As now more details have been leaked out about that. Even the name/designation of that US official has been made public. And it's been declared that it was an official meeting with note takers on both sides, rather than a meeting in a street corner coffee shop as opposition is trying to establish. Briefings and acknowledgement from different state institutions and Opposition leader's unusual boycott for the National security's in camera briefing for the parliamentarians and getting an overnight decision from the High court to bar IK from making this document public again adds strength not only to the document's authenticity but also some of them being part of that conspiracy.
Punjabi and Muhajir are not ethnic groups.they are cluster of different ethnicities.View attachment 829472
At the risk of going off topic, I have a question for the people here. Who are the Sariaki people and which political party do they support? Almost every other ethnic group in the country has a political party front that I can associate with. But I've never read anything about Sariaki people's political affiliation in this forum. Infact, I can only recall a very few instances of this group getting mention here at all. Any famous people from this ethnic group?
Hope someone will be willing to comment about this.
I want to close this threat. N I can not delete it. I want to delete my account as well.Finally state of Pakistan decided to stand for its sovereignty. Let see who gona stand against state of Pakistan. Last three days were like hell for me as abroad living Pakistani. Little reliefView attachment 829049
Are you going to cancel your NICOP as well?
