Final operational clearance for Tejas again delayed till next year

[Shariq786]

no matterr how good owr effort is they will always make fun of it as thats the onli thing they can do to caress their bruised egos

they know they cant take on IAF alone and their onli dream is "china will open second front" so let them dream like that

For air to air engagement we don't need a second front against u as our airforce always had the uper hand in all wars against you so you don't need to worry about that

who told you Mig29 & M2k DONT CARRY BVR's


question is do you have block 3 yet talk like that when you have it till then take a chill pill

now as for your F16s well we already have Upgraded Mig 29 & M2K combo for that + more and jags are for deep strike now Su30MKI well we have also been contanlli ugrading and prctising owr war doctroine as per latest technologies and international excersises with Russian ,UK , USA , France Israel and singaopre air forces so dont worry we are more than ready

now as for this article its onli media thats sensationlising it deu to their own objectives and their financers so dont take it that serousli

now LCA it is designed as a point defnce fighter with multi role capability to fill the numbers and is the last line of fighters who will always remain in shadows of big boys of the IAF now and in future aswell

now in current and in future at least in next decade it will be jags+M2K+M29+MKI+Bisons combo while they will be joind by Rafales and FGFAs while LCA MK1,1.5&2 , AMCA & AURA are already planned and in R&D phase so we have already been building owr defnces dont worry

now as for owr adverserries take it written china will never go to war with india over pakistan ... period dont trust my word ask your own high ranking officials in these matters but even if it wants to it knows china has much much more to loose than india

baki aap khud samjhdar ho sirji

well if your talking about recent events than i would say that IAF is no where near the operational capibility as your migs are falling from the skies you don't have your french goodies till now including the whole upgraded mirage fleet (BTW till these arrive we'll have block 3 though) don't forget about your sukhoi's landing where there was never meant to be a run way auto ejection of the pilot 40% availiblity of the force and JAGS come on now jags are obsoluete so yes if your talking about recent events we still the same

 

[GURU DUTT]

For air to air engagement we don't need a second front against u as our airforce always had the uper hand in all wars against you so you don't need to worry about that

realli when was the last air war faught and what was the technology then and what is now + then u had US backing now you dont so neither you have neumarical supremacy nor the technological supremacy while we have both + their are many more things that dominate todays air warthan just devine fighter pilots and we also have an upper hand their go check it then we shal talk in detail

 

[Shariq786]

realli when was the last air war faught and what was the technology then and what is now + then u had US backing now you dont so neither you have neumarical supremacy nor the technological supremacy while we have both + their are many more things that dominate todays air warthan just devine fighter pilots and we also have an upper hand their go check it then we shal talk in detail

uper hand first of all if there is an air battle between india and pak it would be WVR right so check this out this is the answer to your french Rafael and sukhois remeber whether your fighting BVR WVR or invisible planes pilots skills always matters

Pakistani pilots flying modernised versions of the 1970s-vintage F-16 Falcon fighter have beaten the RAF's brand-new Eurofighter Typhoon superfighters during air combat exercises in Turkey, according to a Pakistani officer.

Costs like a Raptor, flies like a Tornado

This interview with an unnamed but evidently experienced Pakistani Air Force (PAF) F-16 pilot on exchange with the Turkish air force, posted on the official site of the PAF display team, includes the following intriguing passage. (Hat tip to the excellent DEW Line blog for flagging this up.)

Q: Any memorable experiences that you would like to share?
A: On one occasion – in one of the international Anatolian Eagles - PAF pilots were pitted against RAF Typhoons, a formidable aircraft. There were three set-ups and in all three, we shot down the Typhoons. The RAF pilots were shocked.

Q: Any particular reason for your success?

A: NATO pilots are not that proficient in close-in air-to-air combat. They are trained for BVR [Beyond Visual Range] engagements and their tactics are based on BVR engagements. These were close-in air combat exercises and we had the upper hand because close-in air combat is drilled into every PAF pilot and this is something we are very good at.

The Anatolian Eagle air-combat exercises are hosted by the Turkish air force and would have seen Pakistani pilots on exchange with the Turks flying modernised Turkish "Block 50" F-16s, a much-upgraded version of the original US made 1970s Fighting Falcon, which is now in service with many air forces and assembled under licence in various countries including Turkey.

RAF Eurofighter Typhoons 'beaten by Pakistani F-16s' • The Register
link for your satisfaction

 

[GURU DUTT]

For air to air engagement we don't need a second front against u as our airforce always had the uper hand in all wars against you so you don't need to worry about that


well if your talking about recent events than i would say that IAF is no where near the operational capibility as your migs are falling from the skies you don't have your french goodies till now don't forget about your sukhoi's landing where there was never meant to be a run way auto ejection of the pilot 40% availiblity of the force and JAGS come on now jags are obsoluete so yes if your talking about recent events we still the same

about the later part go and ask your air force officals that what they think about IAF as for MKIs well readiness level is already 70%+ and jags might be old but have been upgraded to the maximum level and now can also engage enemy fighters in air to airr combat as they also sport EL2032M , python5 & derby combo as for falloing mig 21s they are not for attack but point defnece so they are the last things your air force has to worry .... do you know a single MKI can track a fighter aircraft more than 150 miles away and carries twice the number of long range BVRs than F16s

uper hand first of all if there is an air battle between india and pak it would be WVR right so check this out this is the answer to your french Rafael and sukhois remeber whether your fighting BVR WVR or invisible planes pilots skills always matters

Pakistani pilots flying modernised versions of the 1970s-vintage F-16 Falcon fighter have beaten the RAF's brand-new Eurofighter Typhoon superfighters during air combat exercises in Turkey, according to a Pakistani officer.

Costs like a Raptor, flies like a Tornado

This interview with an unnamed but evidently experienced Pakistani Air Force (PAF) F-16 pilot on exchange with the Turkish air force, posted on the official site of the PAF display team, includes the following intriguing passage. (Hat tip to the excellent DEW Line blog for flagging this up.)

Q: Any memorable experiences that you would like to share?
A: On one occasion – in one of the international Anatolian Eagles - PAF pilots were pitted against RAF Typhoons, a formidable aircraft. There were three set-ups and in all three, we shot down the Typhoons. The RAF pilots were shocked.

Q: Any particular reason for your success?

A: NATO pilots are not that proficient in close-in air-to-air combat. They are trained for BVR [Beyond Visual Range] engagements and their tactics are based on BVR engagements. These were close-in air combat exercises and we had the upper hand because close-in air combat is drilled into every PAF pilot and this is something we are very good at.

The Anatolian Eagle air-combat exercises are hosted by the Turkish air force and would have seen Pakistani pilots on exchange with the Turks flying modernised Turkish "Block 50" F-16s, a much-upgraded version of the original US made 1970s Fighting Falcon, which is now in service with many air forces and assembled under licence in various countries including Turkey.

RAF Eurofighter Typhoons 'beaten by Pakistani F-16s' • The Register
link for your satisfaction

lolzz what if i told you owr fighter pilots in their M2K, M29s and MKIs are practisisng their war fighting skills israeli and singaoprean F16s which unlike you are not sevearli bugged and are one of the best F16s in this area so dont worry we are already working on it for more than a decade

 

[Shariq786]

about the later part go and ask your air force officals that what they think about IAF as for MKIs well readiness level is already 70%+ and jags might be old but have been upgraded to the maximum level and now can also engage enemy fighters in air to airr combat as they also sport EL2032M , python5 & derby combo as for falloing mig 21s they are not for attack but point defnece so they are the last things your air force has to worry .... do you know a single MKI can track a fighter aircraft more than 150 miles away and carries twice the number of long range BVRs than F16s

does it matters how many BVR sukhoi or F-16 carriers because all it needs is to fire one and secondly its not our doctrine to invade enemies airspace all we need to do is to keep you out of our airspace and you'll keep falling from the skies like in every other war

about the later part go and ask your air force officals that what they think about IAF as for MKIs well readiness level is already 70%+ and jags might be old but have been upgraded to the maximum level and now can also engage enemy fighters in air to airr combat as they also sport EL2032M , python5 & derby combo as for falloing mig 21s they are not for attack but point defnece so they are the last things your air force has to worry .... do you know a single MKI can track a fighter aircraft more than 150 miles away and carries twice the number of long range BVRs than F16s


lolzz what if i told you owr fighter pilots in their M2K, M29s and MKIs are practisisng their war fighting skills israeli and singaoprean F16s which unlike you are not sevearli bugged and are one of the best F16s in this area so dont worry we are already working on it for more than a decade

well than to break your bubble we have been practicing with the worlds 2nd largest economy who have quite similar i mean better planes than you MKI's

 

[GURU DUTT]

does it matters how many BVR sukhoi or F-16 carriers because all it needs is to fire one and secondly its not our doctrine to invade enemies airspace all we need to do is to keep you out of our airspace and you'll keep falling from the skies like in every other war

well if that was the goal you dont need an airforce do you u can simply buy the best air defnces and thats it

as for BVRs well tell me what will your fighter pilot do as when he seas a couple of BVRs rushing towards it while he still dont have a lock on the launcher fighter ?

 

[Shariq786]

well if that was the goal you dont need an airforce do you u can simply buy the best air defnces and thats it

as for BVRs well tell me what will your fighter pilot do as when he seas a couple of BVRs rushing towards it while he still dont have a lock on the launcher fighter ?

No lock on a that big damn sukhio come on stop messing with me

 

[GURU DUTT]

does it matters how many BVR sukhoi or F-16 carriers because all it needs is to fire one and secondly its not our doctrine to invade enemies airspace all we need to do is to keep you out of our airspace and you'll keep falling from the skies like in every other war


well than to break your bubble we have been practicing with the worlds 2nd largest economy who have quite similar i mean better planes than you MKI's

well u might have been practisisng with second largest economy but they still buy their techs from russia israel and other nations with all whome we are already making and upgrading owr air war fighting techneques so dont worry

lock on a that big damn sukhio come on stop messing with me

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[Shariq786]

well u might have been practisisng with second largest economy but they still buy their techs from russia israel and other nations with all whome we are already making and upgrading owr air war fighting techneques so dont worry


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LOL have you ever heard of made in CHINA my friend China is nearly self made in avionics and aircraft making ever heard of reverse engineering so yes now we know your sukhoi's from inside out and buying techs from israel and other nations eeerrrrrr wrong russia than your right as russia need em to buy so they can eat so they sell them everything another bad news for you

 

[GURU DUTT]

LOL have you ever heard of made in CHINA my friend China is nearly self made in avionics and aircraft making ever heard of reverse engineering so yes now we know your sukhoi's from inside out and buying techs from israel and other nations eeerrrrrr wrong russia than your right as russia need em to buy so they can eat so they sell them everything another bad news for you

good for china and good for you but unlike fanboys doing internet wars the heads in PLAAF & PAF know what it is like to mess with IAF had that been not the case they would have attacked us by now but they dint ever wonderred why ?

 

[Shariq786]

good for china and good for you but unlike fanboys doing internet wars the heads in PLAAF & PAF know what it is like to mess with IAF had that been not the case they would have attacked us by now but they dint ever wonderred why ?

because we know you guys are chickens we saw it in 2002 (i think) and 2008 and about wondering have you ever wondered if pakistan airforce is so easy to overcome than why did those surgical strikes didn't landed in PAK till yet

 

[GURU DUTT]

because we know you guys are chickens we saw it in 2002 (i think) and 2008 and about wondering have you ever wondered if pakistan airforce is so easy to overcome than why did those surgical strikes didn't landed in PAK till yet

well good if you think that way but we might be chickens but we are not fools and never give up and never also let owr enemy get away by paying cheali we make them suffer a long and unending punishment forget 2002 or 2008 your nation is still not able to over come the bagage of 1971 and 1999 and still paying dearli for it

now about why dint we did so called "surgical strikes " well why should we when US drones and contractors and your every own "strategick assests" are doing thet job for us

many pakistanies think and talk so much about chankyas policy@ mu me ram bagal me churri but thats not chankyas idology ..... ever wonderred what is ... ssam daam dand bhed policy


now the thread was about LCA lets stick to it shal we

on a serous note let it be very clear we wont fight PAF as PAF & PA wants it to be we will decide palce and time accoreding to it and will force you to make the first shot and then its owr job to finish it dont worry just wieght and watch

 

[Donatello]

stealth se yaad yaya sirji how many stealth fighters pakistan has orderred till now

now for delay well let it be 40 are already orderred by IAF and its already integrated in IAF fleet once quartz rodome and refuling probe arrives we will test it and get FOC as for manufacturing thier are high chances that its production will be given to private players once the FOC is reached as for neaming of tejas its means radiant

Guru,

You are a smart man. Tell me one instance where Pakistan could not get what it wanted and when it wanted?

2030 is very far. Pakistan will be fielding a full fleet strength Stealth units till then. You know this very well.

Pakistan is very far away for reaching any stealth aircraft. I think talk will be on the table to get first Steath fighter by 2030 for Pakistan. Lol. But at the same time india's 200 stealth will be flying with pride in the sky. Lol

You will be lucky if you can get 200 Tejas by that time.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Guru,

You are a smart man. Tell me one instance where Pakistan could not get what it wanted and when it wanted?

2030 is very far. Pakistan will be fielding a full fleet strength Stealth units till then. You know this very well.



You will be lucky if you can get 200 Tejas by that time.

im a smart man

but as for what we want and when we want .... that will always be a dream for not just pakistan but india or even USA for that matter but whats your point kindly elborate sirji

 

[Shariq786]

well good if you think that way but we might be chickens but we are not fools and never give up and never also let owr enemy get away by paying cheali we make them suffer a long and unending punishment forget 2002 or 2008 your nation is still not able to over come the bagage of 1971 and 1999 and still paying dearli for it

now about why dint we did so called "surgical strikes " well why should we when US drones and contractors and your every own "strategick assests" are doing thet job for us

many pakistanies think and talk so much about chankyas policy@ mu me ram bagal me churri but thats not chankyas idology ..... ever wonderred what is ... ssam daam dand bhed policy


now the thread was about LCA lets stick to it shal we

on a serous note let it be very clear we wont fight PAF as PAF & PA wants it to be we will decide palce and time accoreding to it and will force you to make the first shot and then its owr job to finish it dont worry just wieght and watch

did you just refered 1971 for and air to air engagements LOL 15 squadrons vs 15 aircraft but you still lost more than us 7 to 15 but we did lost but you didn't let those 90 thousand soldiers go for nothing we were supposed to give your territories back and you give back our soldiers back that was the agreement and 1999 as there was no air combat but you still lost migs and chopper and the casualties on your side was too damn high if you take that battle as a victory outcome than there is nothing more to say