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Figureskating-China's U.S.-born Zhu inconsolable after team event flop

my eyes are getting old. But she doesn’t look half Chinese. Is China getting a mercenary Olympic team of foreigners?

13 people are foreign.

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Why does she have to become naturalized? Her father is a famous Chinese national (and likely her mother is a Chinese national too). Wouldn't that also make her a Chinese national by default even if she was born over here?


Song-Chun Zhu
BornJune 1968 (age 53)
Ezhou, Hubei, China
NationalityChinese
"...Zhu has two daughters, Stephanie and Beverly.[5] Beverly Yi Zhu (Chinese: 朱易) is a Chinese-American competitive figure skater"

They don’t allow dual citizenship. Although, they welcome back people of visibly Chinese decent.

If China continues to progress economically/scientifically and we in the states don’t try to retain talent, it’s possible some top tier people will be lured back in a reverse brain drain. Although we have enough talent to spare. So, I’m not worried.
 
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The debate is about朱易 and 陈虹伊 who is more qualified to represent China to compete in this Olympics, 陈虹伊 was replaced by 朱易 but 陈虹伊 has a lot of fans and sympathizers on social media.

Well, I google out that Chen Hongyi is the second runner up in women's figure skating, and she and Zhu Yi are both 19 years old. I don't know who is more qualified to participate in the Olympic Games.
Considering that Zhu Yi's father is so famous. I understand that some people will question it.
Let them both prove themselves in the next national competition.


BTW: I personally support local players to play, Zhu Yi should prove himself in the domestic competition first. After all, figure skating is not ice hockey, we are not so weak in this project.


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Well, I google out that Chen Hongyi is the second runner up in women's figure skating, and she and Zhu Yi are both 19 years old. I don't know who is more qualified to participate in the Olympic Games.
Considering that Zhu Yi's father is so famous. I understand that some people will question it.
Let them both prove themselves in the next national competition.


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I don't know who is better either, but Chen Hongyi has been in the Chinese team for many years, she gets millions of supporters on social media.



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I don't know who is better either, but Chen Hongyi has been in the Chinese team for many years, she gets millions of supporters on social media.



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I support Chen Hongyi. But I think Zhu Yi is more beautiful. I want to be a fan of Zhu Yi.

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Don't try so hard to derail this thread, if you like to talk about innovation and contribution to the humanity, start a new dedicated thread and I will be there.

If you don't like me answering...don't ask me a question.

Inventions and innovations have a very wide range

For example: The United Kingdom is the first country inventing the tank. But now, Russia and the United States are the strongest countries in tank technology.
- If you declare that the first country invented the tank is British -> I agree
- But if you claim that "M1 ABRAMS and T-90 are not US and Russian inventions and innovation, because the first country invented the tank as the UK" => I disagreed
Like Tesla cars are not inventions and innovation because Germany is the first country to create cars

Final. Your original question is Chinese innovations for 100 years. Not the first invention of history, and before never appeared

That's why I wrote the brand name before.

I never would claim the tank is a Russian or US innovation. They are just descendants of the original British one. The only major innovation was by the French to add a swivel turret which has now become the standard modification over the original British design.

I also wouldn't claim Tesla did any innovation with electrical vehicles as battery operated vehicles existed 120 years ago. The only major switch he did was put in Lithium batteries instead of the old rechargeable lead acids. That isn't anything groundbreaking.
 
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China's Le Mi (34) is congratulated after scoring a shootout goal against Japan during a preliminary round women's hockey game at the 2022 Winter Olympics, Sunday, Feb. 6, 2022, in Beijing. The goal gave China a 2-1 win. (Petr David Josek/AP Photo)

This is the true "Le Mi". Hannah Miller
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She looks different in both pics lol

Anyways condolences for Zhu, can’t win every time.
 
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Ahh... Prof. Song chun Zhu. I know him from his publication back in 2010. His technique: tree of sketches was impressive. I also knew that his daughter were playing skating. I'm old now.
 
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China has 1.4 billion people and yet they need to recruit from abroad

I can understand small Arab nations doing that even Canada

But China the most populated nation on earth
 
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They don’t allow dual citizenship. Although, they welcome back people of visibly Chinese decent.

If China continues to progress economically/scientifically and we in the states don’t try to retain talent, it’s possible some top tier people will be lured back in a reverse brain drain. Although we have enough talent to spare. So, I’m not worried.

It's probably because she has to travel internationally to skate or travel back to China that her parents must have had to get her a US passport...meanwhile their own are Chinese. I'm sure they still could have gotten her a Chinese one. It's not like China throws a big "you are sh*t out of luck" if some Chinese national goes into labor while on a trip overseas completely negating her child's future as a Chinese citizen.

Plus it's not like somebody under 21 is required to fill out citizenship documents. So other than your birthrecord nothing else should have changed.
 
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It's probably because she has to travel internationally to skate or travel back to China that her parents must have had to get her a passport...meanwhile their own are Chinese.

Otherwise it's not like somebody under 21 is required to fill out citizenship documents. So other than your birthrecord nothing else should have changed.
Hopefully the competition and aftermath has been eye opening for her and she will come home to the states.
 
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Hopefully the competition and aftermath has been eye opening for her and she will come home to the states.

Well her future is not going to be bright in China when almost the entire country looks at you with scorn.
 
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Well her future is not going to be bright in China when almost the entire country looks at you with scorn.
Her parents really did her in, but I guess better to see it like it is then to find out later. She can now come home and rebuild her life.
 
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Figureskating-China's U.S.-born Zhu inconsolable after team event flop​

By Chang-Ran Kim
and Muyu Xu

February 6, 2022
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BEIJING, Feb 6 (Reuters) - A tearful Zhu Yi was inconsolable after nerves and pressure got the better of the U.S.-born Chinese figure skater, whose last-place performance knocked China to fifth place from third in the Beijing Games' team event on Saturday.

Skating to The Rolling Stones' "Paint It Black", Zhu tumbled on her first combination triple flip-triple toeloop jump, crashing into the wall, and bungled her triple loop later, scoring 47.03.


Top-placed Kamila Valieva, for ROC (Russian Olympic Committee), scored 90.18.

"I'm upset and a little embarrassed," said the 19-year-old, who was born and raised in the United States in a Chinese immigrant family, wiping away tears after finishing her short programme stone-faced.

"I guess I felt a lot of pressure because I know everybody in China was pretty surprised with the selection for ladies' singles and I just really wanted to show them what I was able to do but unfortunately I didn’t," she said, her voice quivering.
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Local netizens spared no mercy in a critique of her performance.

"Anyone would question how she was chosen to the team. Is it because she has a scientist father?" a user nicknamed "wFersry" wrote on Weibo, China's version of Twitter.

Zhu placed ninth in the women's singles at the Grand Prix in Turin in November.

"I just felt very sad that I couldn't do better and help (China) during this team event but I'm very grateful to have them, and have them cheering for me."


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A few others on Weibo were kinder.

"I hope people don't say this (insults) to Zhu," wrote user "Zhang Yuzhe".

"The level of our team is still far behind Russia and the U.S. It already showed courage by coming to the stage. No one who competes for the first time can perform perfectly. It's okay if she can adjust her condition in the next competition."

Zhu competes in the individual event on Feb. 15.

China advanced to the finals along with ROC (Russian Olympic Committee), United States, Japan and Canada.

hey, when you fall, get up and get back on the horse...chin up Zhu, its okay, happens in sports.
 
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