Fighting the Pakistan enemy

[waraich66]

Please stick to the topic, which is the Taliban in Pakistan and their massacring of civilians in Pakistan.

The PA is not killing innocent civilians in Afghanistan or Palestine, so your point is irrelevant and off topic.

Agreed, but we can not reach to conclusion if we dont review the complete picture of endless WOT , Palestine conflict is root cause of this war and great anger in Arab world against US for Israeli support.

Pakistan,Iraq Afghanistan are not the target but battle ground because of Al Qaeda have strong network in these countries, which is now shifting towards Yemen ,Somalia other African countries.

My point is killing Al Qaeda fighters with drones also killing innocient civilians which is against war ethics and barberian , why human right organisation and hag courts are not taking action on this barberian action of ISAF forces?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Agreed, but we can not reach to conclusion if we dont review the complete picture of endless WOT , Palestine conflict is root cause of this war and great anger in Arab world against US for Israeli support.

Pakistan,Iraq Afghanistan are not the target but battle ground because of Al Qaeda have strong network in these countries, which is now shifting towards Yemen ,Somalia other African countries.

My point is killing Al Qaeda fighters with drones also killing innocient civilians which is against war ethics and barberian , why human right organisation and hag courts are not taking action on this barberian action of ISAF forces?

None of this has anything to do with the article, which is focused on Pakistan's fight with the Taliban. Pakistan is not using these drones, and the TTP is not fighting for freedom in Afghanistan or Palestine, so the issues of collateral damage by the US and Israel is irrelevant to this topic.

 

[waraich66]

None of this has anything to do with the article, which is focused on Pakistan's fight with the Taliban. Pakistan is not using these drones, and the TTP is not fighting for freedom in Afghanistan or Palestine, so the issues of collateral damage by the US and Israel is irrelevant to this topic.

In case some one use my house for terrorist activities , police or law will also consider me equally criminal or not?

Similiarly Pakistan government is providing logistic support for ISAF ,it mean our Government is involved in war or not?

All Pakistanis ,Arabs and muslims of other countries are well aware of US unjust support of Israel against Palestine .

In this case sampathies of all muslims are with Palestine and to support them against Israel and US.

How they will consider US their friend if it is supporting enemy of Palestinian muslim brothers.


TTP and many other groups started insurgency after 2003 when Musharaf started army operation .

PA know that what is root cause of war between Al Qaeda and US/Israel , being muslim can they kill any Mujahid who is declared terrorist by US/Israel ????

How can we convence our soldiers that US/ Israel are right Talaban/ Al Qaeda are wrong?

What do you think?

 

[fawwaxs]

Death to all the enemies and ill-wishers of Pakistan.

 

[Khajur]

Either you should read the article again and again, and if still don't get the real msg, leave reading then as it would be hopeless for you to understand or anyone else make you understand.

well well, i know u understand what i understand, very well .

What i understan is also acknowledged by patriot with similar understading in the his intial post deleted by him now , the sort of understading that u refuse to acknowledge .

Lets read out what this author ,a recently retired PA officer says about TTP and its slain leader Baitullah Mehsood

However, as far as I remember by and large he was a good enemy. He was brave, man of words and excellent in negotiations. Quite often he was hung in between lust of money and power on one side and love of Pakistan the opposite.

Isnt it a fact that Baitullah Mehsood was a raving homocidal maniac terroist mediaval barbarian who killed Benzir Bhutto along with several other ppl in the bid, Bombed the Marriot hotel killing many civilians including foreigners??

didnt he destroyed girl schools and music shops and behead pak army personels and its sysmpathisers including some of ur SSG guys in public ceremonies , web videos of which illicit such horror and take us back to mediaval ages??

Didnt he flout all agreements with the GOP that finally focred an army offesive, so much for a man of words??

Again the authors goes on to add :

"Taliban are brave and excellent fighters". "Kill them but don’t humiliate them. Taliban may not deserve life but deserve respect. "

I guess he meant since Tiliban follows all norm Geneva coventions before beheading its prisioners ,PA shows similar courtesy and shoul not humiliate them and give them due respect an honourable adversary deservers.



Yes i understand that his opinions were changed for ever after Army mosque bombings ,but as army officer fighting TTP he took way too long to change his own views about the terrorist he was fighting aganist for long time . I'm sure if there hadn't been the case of Army mosque bombings , he would probably stayed on as an closet admirer of Baitullah Mehsood.And there lies danger. This confused mindset and obiviouds inablilty is on the focus here .It only show the kind of sympathies TTP holds even among PA officer class.I'm sure this author isnt the only one with such unbalanced views of TTP and there probably many more and chances are they haven't changed their mindset and force to rethink like the author did even after the Army mosque incident.

 

[Solomon2]

Palestine conflict is root cause of this war and great anger in Arab world against US for Israeli support

Please provide as many details as possible on the connection between the Palestine and Pakistan conflicts.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Please provide as many details as possible on the connection between the Palestine and Pakistan conflicts.

After such a long time on this forum, with numerous posts and arguments, you still can't see the link.

Feel Sorry.

 

[Solomon2]

you still can't see the link.

Or maybe I just see it differently.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Or maybe I just see it differently.

Yeah, that's right, you and some other like you see things differently.

 

[Solomon2]

Yeah, that's right, you and some other like you see things differently.

Do you want to put your view in your own words, since Fundie is out for a breather?

 

[TaimiKhan]

Do you want to put your view in your own words, since Fundie is out for a breather?

Do you really thing by putting my words in would make any difference in your views ??? If in our all discussions so far and by seeing your discussion with other members, i don;t see you are gonna let your gun go, rather gonna stick to it for eternity.

While i will stick to mine, as some issues are the fundamental basics to this chaos in the world, rest secondary ones.

So I won't waste your time like before i used to.

 

[Solomon2]

Do you really thing by putting my words in would make any difference in your views ???

I am seeking clarity of discussion, relating to the topic of the thread.

 

[Windjammer]

Please provide as many details as possible on the connection between the Palestine and Pakistan conflicts.

Basically, how would you feel if i turn up at your front door, throw you out of your house while i occupy your residence and let you live in the garden shed under the condition that every time you want to go to the bathroom, to a shop or anywhere else, you will seek my permission and when you don't obey, i demolish your garden shed, kill a member or two of your family and throw you onto the street. And the rest is history.

 

[Solomon2]

^^^^
Windy, you wrote a paragraph but I don't see how you connected anything.

 

[seekers]

After such a long time on this forum, with numerous posts and arguments, you still can't see the link.

Feel Sorry.

In my poor analysis, i find just one link between Isreal and Pakistan issues that suicide attacks has switch over from Israel to Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and now in KSA also.
Certainly this is very big achievement of jews.They shrewdly reverse the suicide weapon over Muslim world