What's new

Fighter Pilots Not Allowed To Fight

SBD-3

ELITE MEMBER
Joined
Sep 19, 2008
Messages
15,120
Reaction score
-9
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
by James Dunnigan
October 6, 2009

Pakistan has seven female fighter pilots. They fly F-7s, a Chinese version of the Russian MiG-21. None have been in combat yet, despite the heavy use of jet fighter-bombers in nearly a year of fighting in the tribal territories. There, the more modern F-16s are doing most of the bombing of Taliban targets.

Women flying F-7s is a very recent development, part of a program that only began six years ago. Pakistan is not alone using women as fighter pilots, with China graduating its first 16 female fighter pilots this year. There are already 52 women flying non-combat aircraft, and another 545 in training. India has female military pilot, but still resists letting the women fly fighters.

All this began with the success of female military pilots in the United States over the last three decades. Thus an increasing number of other countries are moving in that direction. The reason is simple, many of the women who go through flight training turn out to have better flying skills than the average male pilot.

All the nations considering female fighter pilots, are having a hard time keeping male pilots in uniform. Too many of the men depart for more lucrative, and less stressful, careers as commercial pilots. Women may not be the solution. Currently, only about half of women officers stay in past their initial five year contract. Indian women, even military pilots, are under tremendous social and family pressure to marry. Those that do may still be pilots, but married women expected to have children. The Indian Air Force provides its female officers with ten months leave for this, six months during pregnancy, and four months after delivery. The air force does all this because pilots are very expensive to train. Fuel costs the same everywhere, as do spare parts. So what India may save in lower salaries, is not enough. A good pilot costs over half a million dollars for training expenses, and takes over five years. So the Indians are betting a lot of money, and time, on their female pilots. Many women are willing to take up the challenge. But they have already heard from their peers in Western air force, that motherhood and piloting can be a very exhausting combination.

Worldwide, women are increasingly part of the military. In many nations, over ten percent of military personnel are female. A century ago, it was under one percent (and most of those were nurses and other medical personnel.) More women are in uniform now because there aren't enough qualified men, especially for many of the technical jobs armed forces now have to deal with.

Islamic nations have higher illiteracy rates overall, and very high rates for women. These nations have a severe shortage of technically trained people. Those women that do get an education in Islamic cultures tend to be very bright and able. So there's a need, and a solution close at hand. But because of those religious restrictions, and the generally very macho attitudes in Islamic nations, there will never be as many women in uniform as are needed. This means that Islamic armed forces will continue to come up short when it comes to maintaining and using military technology. The future of military operations is more technology, so you can see where this is leading. No wonder Islamic radicals want to go back to the past. Unfortunately, the non-Moslem world is not inclined to join them. Taking a knife to a gun fight doesn't work.

Allowing women to be combat pilots eventually leads to women commanding combat units. Last year, a U.S. Navy F-18 pilot, Commander Sara Joyner, completed her tour as the first female commander of a navy combat squadron (VFA 105). This included a seven month cruise to the Persian Gulf aboard the USS Harry S. Truman, where her dozen F-18Cs flew about 412 hours each. The squadron has 245 officers and sailors, including pilots and maintenance personnel. The squadron commander flies combat missions, in addition to running the squadron. Joyner has been in the navy since 1985, when she entered the Naval Academy. She was a flight instructor in 1993, when the Department of Defense changed its policy and allowed women to fly combat missions. Joyner has 3,000 hours in the F-18, and 600 carrier landings. Once women were allowed to fly combat aircraft, it was only a matter of time before some of them rose to command positions. Her husband is also a naval aviator, and she has a four year old daughter. Her next assignment is a staff job in the Pentagon. As more women become combat pilots, more will command combat units, and larger ones at that.
 
.
A lot had already been discussed on this issue MuradK had given insight of whole issue in the forums, need not to discuss any, further...
 
. .
thats great:yahoo:
im not in favour of female fighter pilot.cuz they can cause a majour disaster to our young male fighter pilots :azn: .
because of girls,male pilots will pay much attention to :flirt: rather then the country defence.

"THERE SHOULDENT BE ANY FEMALE FIGHTER PILOTS OF FEMALE SOLDIERS IN ANY PAKISTANS MILITARY"
cuz if we take a look in histroy of Islam,in Gazwas,females only took care of injurd people or provide water or treatment at war.but not took a part in war as a fighter.:agree:

:pakistan:
 
.
thats great:yahoo:
im not in favour of female fighter pilot.cuz they can cause a majour disaster to our young male fighter pilots :azn: .
because of girls,male pilots will pay much attention to :flirt: rather then the country defence
.

"THERE SHOULDENT BE ANY FEMALE FIGHTER PILOTS OF FEMALE SOLDIERS IN ANY PAKISTANS MILITARY"
cuz if we take a look in histroy of Islam,in Gazwas,females only took care of injurd people or provide water or treatment at war.but not took a part in war as a fighter.:agree:

:pakistan:

i don't think so .please see every lady like our sister without your wife you will never think like this.our pakistani blood is not like west remember always :)
 
.
Im assuming women fighter pilots are willing to be blown up for their cause and are trained that they arent afraid to be martyred for their faith


I think you have mistaken them with Canadian Airforce that flies 40's second hand planes and thinks it owns the northern teritories , BIG BRO russia is coming Canadian BOY make sure you pucker up m and get ready to kiss Russian hands as they will be your new masters:toast_sign:

As for Pakistani airforce they are quite skilled women/men go thru same training , which probbly is too advanced. :coffee: Please ... save your witty comments for Russians once they take over the oil fields

The one reason why the Girls are given limited fighting oppourtunity is may be they are too valuable to be wasted on missions on western territories they have a huge role to play to train other female pilots
 
.
i don't think so .please see every lady like our sister without your wife you will never think like this.our pakistani blood is not like west remember always :)

ur right bro.it should be in muslims blood.but enviroment of pakistan has much changed.u and me and any one can say this very easily,but most people here dosent proves it practically.
I do respect ladies,but if u take a look at educational institutes,offices even at Police stations u will find the same thing wat im tring to tell u.
its far impossible to prove this thing of bro&sis in this enlighted enviroment of Pakistan.that why there r some limitations for girls in Islam.if u appose it(Islam),u will lead ur self to disaster.:agree:
 
.
disaster to our young male fighter pilots :azn: .
because of girls,male pilots will pay much attention to :flirt: rather then the country defence.
guess i should look for opening a parlor for them :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
. .
I think you have mistaken them with Canadian Airforce that flies 40's second hand planes and thinks it owns the northern teritories , BIG BRO russia is coming Canadian BOY make sure you pucker up m and get ready to kiss Russian hands as they will be your new masters:toast_sign:

As for Pakistani airforce they are quite skilled women/men go thru same training , which probbly is too advanced. :coffee: Please ... save your witty comments for Russians once they take over the oil fields

The one reason why the Girls are given limited fighting oppourtunity is may be they are too valuable to be wasted on missions on western territories they have a huge role to play to train other female pilots
lol buddy..avoid him.He is fake Canadian (our Indian friend).
 
. .
In my opinion.

Pakistan has so many issues to take care of, besides this, PAF has limited facilities and aircrafts to carry out strike operations, we can't risk F-16s in the hands of newly passedout women pilots.

i am sure these girls haven't done their training on F-16s and F-7s might not have such strike capability which could knockout militants i mean to say precision strike capability which only F-16s have.

apart from the strike missions against the militants, no other opportunity came up, after the graduation of these female pilots, in which they could have an opportunity to prove their skills.

Apart from above discussion i have full confidence in PAF training and i am sure these girls could bring down any aircraft of the enemy if they are provided with proper fighters to fly.
 
.
thats great:yahoo:
im not in favour of female fighter pilot.cuz they can cause a majour disaster to our young male fighter pilots :azn: .
because of girls,male pilots will pay much attention to :flirt: rather then the country defence.

"THERE SHOULDENT BE ANY FEMALE FIGHTER PILOTS OF FEMALE SOLDIERS IN ANY PAKISTANS MILITARY"
cuz if we take a look in histroy of Islam,in Gazwas,females only took care of injurd people or provide water or treatment at war.but not took a part in war as a fighter.:agree:

:pakistan:

this is modern era.so why cant women come forward.during those gazwas islamic wars,there were no fighting Aircrafts,so wat u will ask Pakistan to fight without Airforce becz in GHAZWAS there was no Airforce:rofl:
 
.
this is modern era.so why cant women come forward.during those gazwas islamic wars,there were no fighting Aircrafts,so wat u will ask Pakistan to fight without Airforce becz in GHAZWAS there was no Airforce:rofl:

Instead of making fun of his comment try to understand what he is saying if you have a brain.:coffee:
 
. .

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom