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I am not one to trash talk, but in this case, I couldn't resist. Interesting times ahead for Russia. @senheiser

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Fending off the great Russian BearWhale
Izabella Kaminska Author alerts | Nov 06 12:55

Back in March, when one US dollar still bought you 36 Russian roubles, we notedhow the Kremlin’s attempt to publicly trash-talk the dollar by threatening to drop it as a reserve currency if and when the US was to impose sanctions was largely a propaganda tactic deployed to confuse the economically ignorant about the reality of who was really dependent on whom.

(As if Russia’s dependence on dollar reserves was ever a US Achilles heel. Quite the contrary, it’s always been Russia’s.)

From our point of view it was all a desperate measure to stave off a currency crises in the making, and obscure the fact that Russia’s CBR was losing control (given that even rate hikes were proving ineffective at curbing the rouble’s slide).


Here we are eight months later, with one dollar worth 45 roubles, and what have we learned?

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Namely, that once a currency crisis starts, trying to suppress, ban or rubbish the superior asset that everyone is flocking to (a.k.a the dollar) isn’t usually a winning strategy.

So here come the Russian authorities with a new strategy, known in some quarters as the Spanish defence, namely blame evil “speculators” for the demise of your currency and your economy.

As Louise Valentin, head of Emerging Markets advisory and structuring at SEB, explains regarding the latest desperate measures the Bank of Russia is taking:

Yesterday, Bank of Russia announced that it will adjust its intervention policy to stop, or at least minimize “speculative strategies” against the RUB, adding that it would sell unlimited amounts of USD to defend the RUB on a discretionary basis. If the upper level (or lower) of the corridor is breached, the daily intervention will now amount to a maximum of $350mn.

After that amount has been spent, the corridor will be shifted by 5 kopeks and the RUB will float freely determined by market factors (unless CBR chose to intervene ad-hoc).​

Problem is, of course, Russia doesn’t have unlimited amounts of USD. What this strategy really evokes is the recent slaughtering of the Bitcoin Bearwhale, which saw the community defend the Bitcoin price by effectively shovelling loads of dollars at it.

As Valentin notes it is not consequently a winning strategy. If anything it only buys time:

Our take on this is the following: the only way to restore confidence in a currency is to hike interest rates aggressively, which the CBR failed to do last week. At best, intervention can only slow depreciation. The CBR has made the correct assessment that the RUB has been overvalued for a long time and now they are allowing it to depreciate. In addition, by not hiking more aggressively, they hope not to strangle virtually the only source of growth in Russia, namely consumption.​

Meanwhile, if the following is true, what happens next is potentially going to behyperinflationary, if not outright Diocletian-esque:

Moscow. Farid Akbarov – APA. Russia may ban the circulation of the United States dollar. The State Duma has already been submitted a relevant bill banning and terminating the circulation of USD in Russia, APA’s Moscow correspondent reports. If the bill is approved, Russian citizens will have to close their dollar accounts in Russian banks within a year and exchange their dollars in cash to Russian ruble or other countries’ currencies. Otherwise their accounts will be frozen and cash dollars levied by police, customs, tax, border, and migration services confiscated. After the law enters into force, it will be impossible to obtain cash dollar in Russia. The ban or termination of the US dollar will not apply to the exchange operations carried out by Russian Central Bank, the Russian government, ministries of foreign affairs and defense, the Foreign Intelligence Service and the Federal Security Service.​
 
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I am not one to trash talk, but in this case, I couldn't resist. Interesting times ahead for Russia. @senheiser

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http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/11/06/2033162/fending-off-the-great-russian-bearwhale/

Fending off the great Russian BearWhale
Izabella Kaminska Author alerts | Nov 06 12:55

Back in March, when one US dollar still bought you 36 Russian roubles, we notedhow the Kremlin’s attempt to publicly trash-talk the dollar by threatening to drop it as a reserve currency if and when the US was to impose sanctions was largely a propaganda tactic deployed to confuse the economically ignorant about the reality of who was really dependent on whom.

(As if Russia’s dependence on dollar reserves was ever a US Achilles heel. Quite the contrary, it’s always been Russia’s.)

From our point of view it was all a desperate measure to stave off a currency crises in the making, and obscure the fact that Russia’s CBR was losing control (given that even rate hikes were proving ineffective at curbing the rouble’s slide).


Here we are eight months later, with one dollar worth 45 roubles, and what have we learned?

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Namely, that once a currency crisis starts, trying to suppress, ban or rubbish the superior asset that everyone is flocking to (a.k.a the dollar) isn’t usually a winning strategy.

So here come the Russian authorities with a new strategy, known in some quarters as the Spanish defence, namely blame evil “speculators” for the demise of your currency and your economy.

As Louise Valentin, head of Emerging Markets advisory and structuring at SEB, explains regarding the latest desperate measures the Bank of Russia is taking:

Yesterday, Bank of Russia announced that it will adjust its intervention policy to stop, or at least minimize “speculative strategies” against the RUB, adding that it would sell unlimited amounts of USD to defend the RUB on a discretionary basis. If the upper level (or lower) of the corridor is breached, the daily intervention will now amount to a maximum of $350mn.

After that amount has been spent, the corridor will be shifted by 5 kopeks and the RUB will float freely determined by market factors (unless CBR chose to intervene ad-hoc).​

Problem is, of course, Russia doesn’t have unlimited amounts of USD. What this strategy really evokes is the recent slaughtering of the Bitcoin Bearwhale, which saw the community defend the Bitcoin price by effectively shovelling loads of dollars at it.

As Valentin notes it is not consequently a winning strategy. If anything it only buys time:

Our take on this is the following: the only way to restore confidence in a currency is to hike interest rates aggressively, which the CBR failed to do last week. At best, intervention can only slow depreciation. The CBR has made the correct assessment that the RUB has been overvalued for a long time and now they are allowing it to depreciate. In addition, by not hiking more aggressively, they hope not to strangle virtually the only source of growth in Russia, namely consumption.​

Meanwhile, if the following is true, what happens next is potentially going to behyperinflationary, if not outright Diocletian-esque:

Moscow. Farid Akbarov – APA. Russia may ban the circulation of the United States dollar. The State Duma has already been submitted a relevant bill banning and terminating the circulation of USD in Russia, APA’s Moscow correspondent reports. If the bill is approved, Russian citizens will have to close their dollar accounts in Russian banks within a year and exchange their dollars in cash to Russian ruble or other countries’ currencies. Otherwise their accounts will be frozen and cash dollars levied by police, customs, tax, border, and migration services confiscated. After the law enters into force, it will be impossible to obtain cash dollar in Russia. The ban or termination of the US dollar will not apply to the exchange operations carried out by Russian Central Bank, the Russian government, ministries of foreign affairs and defense, the Foreign Intelligence Service and the Federal Security Service.​

So , if we ever do decide to visit Russia. We'll get more bang for our buck, er, I mean, ruble.

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@senheiser , how much does it cost to go to a karaoke bar in Russia? Are there any specific entry fees?
 
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So , if we ever do decide to visit Russia. We'll get more bang for our buck, er, I mean, ruble.

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@senheiser , how much does it cost to go to a karaoke bar in Russia? Are there any specific entry fees?

I've been to the Oktyabr Karaoke bar in Moscow, you're looking at a per person price of around 20 USD (drinks and food are extra). Specializes in Japanese foods, which for some reason is very, very popular in Russia. I stay away from Karaoke in the US, preferring some of the dance clubs such as Das Bunker instead, but in Russia it's a blast.
 
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I've been to the Oktyabr Karaoke bar in Moscow, you're looking at a per person price of around 20 USD. Specializes in Japanese foods, which for some reason is very, very popular in Russia. I stay away from Karaoke in the US, preferring some of the dance clubs such as Das Bunker instead, but in Russia it's a blast.

Really? This is good to know, at least this way I'll know when i go there, a dollar will go a long way. he he.
 
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Really? This is good to know, at least this way I'll know when i go there, a dollar will go a long way. he he.

Your dollar will go a long ways, but that doesn't mean you should go overboard either. Keep in mind these clubs are still expensive on average, and with the Russian economy flagging, are only getting more expensive (dropping Ruble, rising inflation). Even during good times Jelsomino has $16 cocktails... that's ridiculous. I can imaging its more expensive these days, though I've actually never been to Jelsomino.

If you don't mind a more expensive experience than the Yanpen Karaoke Lounge is by far the best. It's near Rossiya Cinema, so right in the middle of downtown Moscow. One problem is that Yanpen has started to introduce membership cards instead of offering admissions to just everyone. That being said, if you can get in it's the best Karaoke in Russia. If you're willing to drop 500 Ru an hour on a suite then this is the place for you.
 
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I've been to the Oktyabr Karaoke bar in Moscow, you're looking at a per person price of around 20 USD (drinks and food are extra). Specializes in Japanese foods, which for some reason is very, very popular in Russia. I stay away from Karaoke in the US, preferring some of the dance clubs such as Das Bunker instead, but in Russia it's a blast.
I lived one year in st Petersburg Russia and some night clubs are really economical and good ones to get laid ;)
Oh my god those Russian beauties...
 
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Your dollar will go a long ways, but that doesn't mean you should go overboard either. Keep in mind these clubs are still expensive on average, and with the Russian economy flagging, are only getting more expensive (dropping Ruble, rising inflation). Even during good times Jelsomino has $16 cocktails... that's ridiculous. I can imaging its more expensive these days, though I've actually never been to Jelsomino.

If you don't mind a more expensive experience than the Yanpen Karaoke Lounge is by far the best. It's near Rossiya Cinema, so right in the middle of downtown Moscow. One problem is that Yanpen has started to introduce membership cards instead of offering admissions to just everyone. That being said, if you can get in it's the best Karaoke in Russia. If you're willing to drop 500 Ru an our on a suite that this is the place for you.

Wow, interesting. Weren't you shadowed by the FSB?
 
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I live one year in st Petersburg Russia and some night clubs are really economical and good ones to get laid ;)
Oh my god those Russian beauties...

The clubs are great for that. Unfortunately I was with my girlfriend on vacation (we were doing a European tour of nations) so picking up some locals wasn't an option for me :mad:. That being said, there are even better choices then the clubs for this kind of activity.

Wow, interesting. Weren't you shadowed by the FSB?

I hope not! Having videos of me dancing like an idiot would be great blackmail material though.
 
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Your dollar will go a long ways, but that doesn't mean you should go overboard either. Keep in mind these clubs are still expensive on average, and with the Russian economy flagging, are only getting more expensive (dropping Ruble, rising inflation). Even during good times Jelsomino has $16 cocktails... that's ridiculous. I can imaging its more expensive these days, though I've actually never been to Jelsomino.

If you don't mind a more expensive experience than the Yanpen Karaoke Lounge is by far the best. It's near Rossiya Cinema, so right in the middle of downtown Moscow. One problem is that Yanpen has started to introduce membership cards instead of offering admissions to just everyone. That being said, if you can get in it's the best Karaoke in Russia. If you're willing to drop 500 Ru an our on a suite that this is the place for you.

Yanpen Karaoke Lounge you say? Thanks. I can't believe some of those suites are charging 500 Ru per hour tho. Its as expensive as some night clubs in Ginza.

I live one year in st Petersburg Russia and some night clubs are really economical and good ones to get laid ;)
Oh my god those Russian beauties...

He he , thanks for your input, Mr. DHH.

I hope not! Having videos of me dancing like an idiot would be great blackmail material though.

I'd pay some good money to see @senheiser show off his dance moves. LOL
 
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I'd pay some good money to see @senheiser show off his dance moves. LOL

I'd be right beside him too. Sometimes he's a bit stuffy, might be a good opportunity to get him to lighten up to some evil western dance music. Nothing says I hate the US like dancing your a** off to western pop music!
 
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Ha ha ha, we'll have to get him softened up. Vodka shots should do that for our comrade @senheiser :lol:

I don't know? They are notorious heavyweights so we might need an entire keg. Rumor has it Russian blood isn't blood at all... it's vodka. Russians handle their alcohol better than anyone I've seen. Though once their drunk they are just as stupid as we Americans are when we are sober.

Senheiser is a German living Russian... he's got to be a drinking machine!!!
 
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I don't know? They are notorious heavyweights so we might need an entire keg. Rumor has it Russian blood isn't blood at all... it's vodka. Russians handle their alcohol better than anyone I've seen. Though once their drunk they are just as stupid as we Americans are when we are sober.

Senheiser is a German living Russian... he's got to be a drinking machine!!!

ha ha ha ha!
 
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