Multani, please stop spreading lies. Sikhs don't say they killed 100,000 Pashtuns. Even though they were our enemies, but Pathans/Afghans were always respected as a brave and honourable foe.
Yeah blame the sikhs for everything. The TTP, the army offensive in NW etc. weird logic.
On the history of Pashtun women I have a very interesting contribution to make:
An officer of the Imperial British army, recorded in his autobiography that Afghan women in the North-West Frontier Province of British India used an execution method involving urine.
Pathan women urinated into the open mouths of British soldiers who were fastened with restraints to the ground and their mouths held open with a stick.
Bugles and a Tiger (Autobiography) - John Masters:
Kyber, British India's North West Frontier: The Story of an Imperial Migraine - Charles Miller:
John Masters: A Regimented Life - John Masters:
The Savage Frontier: A History of the Anglo-Afghan Wars - Donald-Sydney Richards:
First lahori then islamabadi? Stick to one story maran
First lahori then islamabadi? Stick to one story maran
On the history of Pashtun women I have a very interesting contribution to make:
An officer of the Imperial British army, recorded in his autobiography that Afghan women in the North-West Frontier Province of British India used an execution method involving urine.
Pathan women urinated into the open mouths of British soldiers who were fastened with restraints to the ground and their mouths held open with a stick.
Bugles and a Tiger (Autobiography) - John Masters:
Kyber, British India's North West Frontier: The Story of an Imperial Migraine - Charles Miller:
John Masters: A Regimented Life - John Masters:
The Savage Frontier: A History of the Anglo-Afghan Wars - Donald-Sydney Richards:
Why are you cursing the Punjabis for getting butthurt by some British accounts or by some individual user? And by "that user" who told you Bibi Mubarika's qisa, I take you meant me. Let me tell you one thing, I made this account(previously haj9211) just to answer the shit that you wrote without any response. You constantly espoused lies, and wrote shit against Punjabi muslims, called us biddati and what not. Also share here why I mentioned Bibi Mubarika. You were writing shit against how Mughals saved us "rajay majay" from Khushal Khan Khattak and Yusufzais. I cited the same Mughals, who forcibly married Bibi Mubarika, yet appreciated the bravery of Rajay Majay in Pharwala under Sultan Hathi Gakhar.
You were constantly indirectly trying to prove how Punjabi muslims were cowards, and relied on a poor understanding of history to prove your point. You were constantly bullshitting about how only Punjabi Pathans had the courage to resist Sikhs under Ranjit Singh, when Kasuri Pathans were anti-Punjab who denied the funeral of Bhulle Shah, and the Mankera Nawab was a known coward who handed over the anti-Sikh Tiwana chief, who was seeking asylum in Mankera, to the Sikhs. The Tiwana then made a peace deal with the Sikhs, and assisted the Sikhs against the treacherous Mankera Nawab. The Mankera Nawab could only resist for 21 days in his fotress before he ran for his life, yet the Janjua(rajay-majay) of salt range in Kusak fort resisted Ranjit Singh himself for 6 months, who failed to capture the fort by assault and turned to diplomacy. The Chattha Jatts of Gujranwala came an inch close to actually murdering an adolescent Ranjit Singh himself, yet you were always propagating how Punjabi muslims were cowards, boot lickers and what not.
And then you try to involve the known patriotic pakhtun users here. It's like you have an agenda here to make Punjabis and Pakhtuns fight. Yep they are our countrymen, but it doesn't mean you can write shit about us all you want and get away with us staying silent. And it's not like we're resorting to name calling or something. We shared historical sources to get you out of your fallacies of superiority.
And as for us Indics being treacherous and what not. For one, you live in an Indic dominated region of Pakistan. Abbottabad is an Indic city. Awans, Karlals, Tanoli, Dhund, Bhambas of Boi are all Indics, who are the quintessential Abbottabadis. The Hindko Pathans are mixed with Indics anyway. If we were so bad, perhaps you people would stay in your own hometowns right? Like, for one, why don't you move to Lakki Marwat instead of enjoying the hard work of indics? Somehow, I doubt you're even from Lakki Marwat. I feel like you're an Afghan claiming a false persona here. I even saw you write Darri here lol. Cut the crap and accept your real identity. There are no Marwats in Afghanistan as far as I know.
Actually, Rudyard Kipling also mentioned the same practice. So next time when you mention that "for centuries Hindus of India feared venom of the Cobra and revenge of the Afghans" quote, then know who you're citing
Female sharpshooters on horses of then nomadic lur tribe participated in the wars of karim khan zand against Ghilzai Afghans.
Lur Women with Rifle | History of Pashtuns
Did he? Could you provide a source to back that claim? Thanks.Actually, Rudyard Kipling also mentioned the same practice. So next time when you mention that "for centuries Hindus of India feared venom of the Cobra and revenge of the Afghans" quote, then know who you're citing
@rmi5 I didn't know I was related to Pashtuns.Am I missing something here?
Rumi was also from Afghanistan, who I respect as do most Punjabis. But sadly, all the people that you mention are Tajiks. All the cities that you mention are silk road cities with a Persian/Tajik culture and legacy. These Tajiks and Uzbeks were all invaded by Abdali. They weren't a part of mercenary, dog eat dog economy of southern Afghanistan. They were and are closer to Iran in terms of culture and mentality. Northern Afghanistan also has the legacy of civilized Bactrian Greeks.
Termez is in Uzbekistan. You might as well claim Isfahan in Iran now lol.
And unlike you people, we don't deny our Hindhu past. The Janjuas, Khakhas and Jarrals of Potohar/AJK are all descendants of these civilized, Sanskrit speaking Pandavas. They were reading and writing philosophy when the word Afghanistan didn't even exist. We are people under the influence of Sufis, and we are not raised to hate Shias or Hindhus like you sub-humans are. We don't deny that our forefathers were respectable people who did not get an invitation to Islam. We don't deny our own forefathers. Bastardism is not our way. It seems like you really love Afghanistan don't you?
As for the muslim past of Potohar. The Gakhar court was a refuge to all the people seeking asylum or the people in need. The emir of Khwarezm, who resisted Genghis Khan, was also granted asylum by the Potohari muslim khokhars(or maybe Gakhars) when the cowardly Afghanistan/Silk road origin sultans of Delhi denied him asylum in Delhi. The Niazi nobleman of Islam Shah Suri was granted asylum in Pharwala by Sultan Sarang, when his own kinsman did not even spare the integrity of his womenfolk. Potohar was also the home to Mian Muhammad Baksh, a famous sufi saint who is respected throughout the AJK, Hazara and Potohar.
The natives of Potohar, AJK all declared war against the Sikh aggressors. Chibhs Rajas of Mangla routed the Bhangi misal twice. Chibhs were defeated by the Sikhs and Dogras via diplomacy and betrayal rather than a fair fight. The Jarrals of Rajouri resisted Ranjit Singh when he invaded their state. The Jarrals called Ranjit Singh "Kaana Kaala"(black skinned, one eyed).
About Jalalpur, I doubted their Syed hood, not that I disliked the shrine itself.
Also, unlike you @Multani, I had the decency to not say anything negative about Multanis or Seraikis. You on the other hand was even lying about our women being prostitutes in the brothels of Multan, and calling us the "most beghairat" of all Punjabis. You're a hopeless nakli pathan + kammi mughal hybrid. You're not worth it for me to engage in a keyboard war with you. You seem to reply negatively to all my posts here. You remind me of a kid whose lollypop someone stole.
@Psycho Pakistani; Man help me deal with this kid
