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FC personnel killing: Government likely to postpone dialogue process with Taliban committee

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ISLAMABAD: Taliban’s latest claim to kill 23 frontier corps (FC) troops made deadlock between the government committee and the Taliban committee as today’s scheduled meeting likely to be delayed as the government seeks explanation before resuming dialogue process.

Member of the government committee Rahim Ullah Yusufzai said that the government has cleared its stance on Taliban leadership that terror activities could damage the dialogue process.

He further said that the government committee expected a cease fire announcement by the Taliban committee

Rahim Ullah Yusuf Zai said that they did not talk to Taliban Political Council yet but talks were underway only with Taliban representative committee so far.

Statement regarding killing of FC personnel was given by Tehreek-e-Taliban Mohmand Agency Chapter and they were in a contact with Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan TTP, he said.

Rahim Ullah Yousufzai said at the moment it was unclear who were behind this brutal killing.

The government committee nember said that the government was already under pressure to continue talk with the Taliban as they accepted the responsibility of Police van attack in Karachi on February 13.

Now after killing of FC personnels situation have become more complicated for the government to continue dialogue process, he added.

FC personnel killing: Government likely to postpone dialogue process with Taliban committee | The News Tribe
 
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My intial feeling is end the talks and start the war,

But something tells me that peace is not wanted by certain factions and they are doing all they can to derail the peace process
 
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And Nawazji and Imran bhai still trust the TTP? Talks will go nowhere. The PA should be let loose against these Yahoos, smoke them out, and send them back to their maker.
 
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Babar Sattar

THE leaders in Pakistan seem possessed by magic. Is there another logical explanation for the deliberate effort of our rulers to nurture and strengthen the scourge of terror? The debate on whether the terrorists are misguided simpletons or vicious agents of our external enemies is now over. Led by Imran Khan we have concluded that those opposed to terrorists are enemies of peace. Can the noises made by these ‘dollar-inspired’ critics, demanding identification of redlines and non-negotiable issues, be anything other than crafty efforts to sabotage peace?

The prime minister confidently claimed in Turkey that the TTP would soon be the harbinger of good news. Within hours the TTP claimed mowing down another dozen or so policemen in Karachi (young men who had just committed themselves to serving the state). Why? In retaliation for action against terrorists in Peshawar and Swabi, says the TTP. The interior minister insists that talks and terror can’t go hand in hand. But they can go hand in glove, can’t they? The TTP can continue to fight and talk, and the state can continue to grovel and appease.

What is our obsession with large-scale operations anyways? Is it a part of our national psyche to act only when the enemy is banging down the gates? The Lal Masjid brigade was deliberately allowed by the state to emerge as a nuisance. It wasn’t nipped even after the fatwa that Pakistani soldiers if killed fighting Pakistani Taliban in the tribal areas did not deserve a Muslim funeral. It wasn’t nipped in early 2007 when its vigilantes occupied a library or started enforcing morality in the neighbourhood.

And when it was nipped, it wasn’t done by shutting down water or electricity or using gas to snuff out residents, but through a massive military operation that is now used to illustrate the concept of ‘excessive use of force’ in the textbook on how not to do things. No efforts have been made since to sanitise militant-festered seminaries in the capital. No criminal responsibility could be pinned on Abdul Aziz who was released from detention and reinstalled in Lal Masjid. Aziz is now back in the business of declaring the constitution illegitimate and threatening the state with the wrath of suicide attackers in the TTP stockpile.

A former chief secretary of KP explains that Fazlullah too started out as a nuisance. By 2006 Fazalullah had managed to terrorise the local administration and had the support of around 200 fighters (150 locals and around 50 foreigners). The chief secretary decided to surround Fazlullah’s village and arrest him, which he claims could be accomplished easily at that stage. All he needed was 650 men from the police and the Frontier Constabulary. But despite throwing all his influence behind the plan, he could garner no support in Rawalpindi/Islamabad.

Eventually the Fazlullah problem grew bigger and graver and a massive military operation had to be launched to clean up Swat. We have followed the same pro-festering model to the dot vis-à-vis the TTP in North Waziristan, which is now the TTP’s emirate (drones being the only intrusion in exercise of its exclusive sovereignty). Meanwhile, the TTP-led terror syndicate has strengthened its ability to execute terror attacks across Pakistan and has begun claiming its pound of flesh in Karachi as well.

Can the present mode of negotiations produce anything other than terms of surrender to the TTP? Lets forget about the enforcement of Sharia for a moment and review the other uncontested demands. After having lost hundreds of soldiers and thousands of citizens, can the state withdraw troops from Fata and hand over all tribal agencies to the TTP? Can the state release over 4,000 prisoners accused of terror-related crimes across Pakistan or convicts, such as Aqeel and Imran Sadiq —masterminds of the GHQ attack?

The problem with peace negotiations is that they are not being conducted with a foreign state but an indigenous terror group. You can negotiate the release of prisoners after an interstate war because they go back to a different territory. How do you release terrorists who have admittedly masterminded or killed policemen, soldiers and citizens and have every intention of killing more once released? What legal or moral basis does the state have to prosecute or keep some criminals locked when others are literally allowed to get away with murder?

The negotiations under way have no future so long as Pakistan perceives itself as a sovereign nation state capable of exercising authority over its territory. There are simply no principles of law or morality that support any deal with the TTP other than committing more resources to mainstream Fata, which the TTP doesn’t care much about. The negotiations have no future also because for them to succeed the TTP would need to get out of the business of terror, which would deprive it of its financial resources and the power and influence it wields.

The negotiations have no utility because if the idea was to run a replay of Swat, it has backfired. The peace deal in Swat and its aftermath exposed Fazlullah’s outfit and caused enough revulsion to leash up public opinion in favour of an operation. But Fata is no Swat and this time TTP isn’t exposing itself either. The talks between pro-TTPers in power and pro-TTPers out of power have mainstreamed TTP’s noxious narrative and not isolated it.

Having dressed up herd-followers as leaders should we complain about lack of courage, conviction and clarity in their actions?

The writer is a lawyer.
 
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I would say that let the people know that talks with Taliban will lead us nowhere. Then start war against Taliban and people will admire the fact that the only option to handle these scums was an army operation.
 
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I would say that let the people know that talks with Taliban will lead us nowhere. Then start war against Taliban and people will admire the fact that the only option to handle these scums was an army operation.


Agree, what must be, must be.. if war is the only option to wipe the scum out then so be it

But the nation as a whole from the left to the right win and the uber religious all need to be bought on board


We must justify ourselves in the face of these outrages so NO ONE can say we were not patient and did not opt for peace
 
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I would say that let the people know that talks with Taliban will lead us nowhere. Then start war against Taliban and people will admire the fact that the only option to handle these scums was an army operation.

Anyone with an iota of common sense knows now that talks will go nowhere. Waging war on the TTP is the only way to sort out these salafi funded thugs - and in doing so neutralizing the agenda of their Salafi masters in Saudi.
 
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Anyone with an iota of common sense knows now that talks will go nowhere. Waging war on the TTP is the only way to sort out these salafi funded thugs - and in doing so neutralizing the agenda of their Salafi masters in Saudi.
Everyone with common sense have supported army operation on talks but we have less people with such common sense. These talks will show other %age of people the same. Last time when army did operation in lal mosque, you know what happened. That's why let these people know for now that talks will lead us nowhere then they will also support army operation.

Agree, what must be, must be.. if war is the only option to wipe the scum out then so be it

But the nation as a whole from the left to the right win and the uber religious all need to be bought on board


We must justify ourselves in the face of these outrages so NO ONE can say we were not patient and did not opt for peace

I start a thread says that Taliban demanded for Shria in Pakistan and Mullah Fazlullah will be caliphate of Pakistan and Mullah Umar will be amer-ul-momineen. You can see what they are demanding in peace talks. This can never happen. If they want to rule a country then they can rule cave men of Afghanistan and if they ever plan to attack Pakistan then we will always be ready for retaliation.
 
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