Fauji Sazish - The Regressive Pakistani Liberal version of "Yahoodi Sazish"?

[Taimoor Khan]

Lol no it was not. Why did mullahs call Quaid e Azam "Kafir e Azam" then. You Allah boys are in a state of denial. Liberals fought for Pakistan. Your heroes cursed Pakistan.

Don't spread lies.

Screw Mullah. Don't put words in my mouth.

Those Mullahs who opposed Pakistan have bitten dust. A lot of water has flown under the bridge since 1947, and from there on till date, Pakistan is ruled and abused by non other then liberal elite class of Pakistan.

 

[gangsta_rap]

Pakistan is ruled and abused by non other then liberal elite class of Pakistan.

This is actually very true...

 

[Indus Priest King]

Screw Mullah. Don't put words in my mouth.

Those Mullahs who opposed Pakistan have bitten dust. A lot of water has flown under the bridge since 1947, and from there on till date, Pakistan is ruled and abused by non other then liberal elite class of Pakistan.

Hilarious...Nawaz Sharif and PMLN are "liberals"? PPP would be considered right-centre in every other country also.

No real liberals have managed to take power yet. I pray we see them soon.

This is actually very true...

Name one "liberal politician" in Pakistan.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

You calling Allama Iqbal and Jinnah Liberal? Pakistan was claimed in the name of Islam, how come liberal will be associated with Islam or its relevance to the affairs of the state?

Just like the "Islamists" are associated with rag tag Mullahs, unfortunately, the liberals of Pakistan are now defined by what you called "Pseudoliberal". And indeed, they are the ones which have abused and looted Pakistan mercilessly.

It seems a lot of members have not read Allama Iqbal. He was most definitely an Islamic oriented personality who gave much emphasis on the past, but believed the future should not be beholden to it. Allama Iqbal today would be mudslinged by these liberals as an Islamist, Pan-Islamist, seeking Caliphate, Sharia law, Jihad. Lol.

All those words are meaningless though. He was simply a Muslim and the mentor of Quaid e Azam’s religious/political thought.

Lol no it was not. Why did mullahs call Quaid e Azam "Kafir e Azam" then. You Allah boys are in a state of denial. Liberals fought for Pakistan. Your heroes cursed Pakistan.

Don't spread lies.

Those people stayed in India and are now dealing with Modi. Their descendants are cursing their mistake.

We are Pakistanis and now those people don’t matter. Sheikh Shabbir Ahmad Usmani
Was notable for having led the funeral prayer of Quaid e Azam. He and other Ulema were big proponents of Pakistan. Maulana Maududi did a complete 180 and joined Pakistani politics. Many great scholars came out of that time, alllof them patriotic Pakistanis and fierce nationalists.

This is a good synopsis here at this link. After the bold text are the writer’s own opinions, but the historic part is spot on:
Ulema and Pakistan Movement

Screw Mullah. Don't put words in my mouth.

Those Mullahs who opposed Pakistan have bitten dust. A lot of water has flown under the bridge since 1947, and from there on till date, Pakistan is ruled and abused by non other then liberal elite class of Pakistan.

Muslim masses are the biggest obstacle to the aims of our enemies and egotists. Whether Mullah or Liberal, they have caused enough damage to Pakistan.

Time for some enlightened religious leadership and hard nationalism. These hypocrites have to be defeated. More vacancies for Adiala.

Name one "liberal politician" in Pakistan.

All these politicians, journalists, media personalities screaming about PA, ISI, TTP influencing Pakistan elections are all the liberal elite who want to protect their power and their subservience to the West and India.

Imran Khan is definitely not a liberal but a religious nationalist with a social development agenda.

 

[litman]

i think all the anti pak and pro pak forces are very much clear to everybody. we can easily differentiate between the traitors and loyal pakistanis. this is today's article on bbc
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44923565'
you can easily identify the traitors which are being supported by foreign powers and media. even there is no name of the author mentioned before the opinion. just some basta*d wrote this article. may be an indian basta*d. the local traitors in this piece of shit are gul bukhari, justice siddiqui, hamid mir, ganja sharif and they are backed by bbc which labeled these elections as the dirtiest elections and the reason why these elections are the dirtiest elections is that this time the enemies of pak are expected to lose.

 

[SQ8]

There is no doubt that the Paujis engage in manipulation and corruption for self interest; however that is a function of them being from the same crop as the rest of Pakistan and the result of dictators who ruined the ethical standards within the military.
Yet, even with a need for massive accountability within the military for their wastage of resources especially at the top of the command chain; most of the newer generation only see democracy as the way forward and prefer it to be free of feudal lords and religious extremists. Now if to that extent they decide to manipulate the election and ensure that the enemies.. yes.. enemies of Pakistan such as Nawaz Sharif and Asif Zardari never return to power again.. SO BE IT!

 

[gangsta_rap]

Name one "liberal politician" in Pakistan.

Benazir fits the bill. She introduced all the ills that are present in the current political system. (Corruption,Nepotism,Cult o personality,anti-state/military rhetoric)

Interestingly Jamaat e Islami is incredibly democratic with internal party elections and all the basics of a democratic party

 

[pzfz]

Pakistanis need to learn how to fight fire with fire. The Regressive Pakistani Liberals are essentially blaming the army right now no different than how how Mullahs and Right Wing Nuts use "Yahoodi Sazish".

Both are ridiculous and should be viewed as a conspiracy theory.

No proof = Didn't happen.

The army is backing PTI? Where's your evidence? Don't have it...run along.

Obviously it's all propaganda. The army is too stupid to actually support IK.

There is no doubt that the Paujis engage in manipulation and corruption for self interest; however that is a function of them being from the same crop as the rest of Pakistan and the result of dictators who ruined the ethical standards within the military.
Yet, even with a need for massive accountability within the military for their wastage of resources especially at the top of the command chain; most of the newer generation only see democracy as the way forward and prefer it to be free of feudal lords and religious extremists. Now if to that extent they decide to manipulate the election and ensure that the enemies.. yes.. enemies of Pakistan such as Nawaz Sharif and Asif Zardari never return to power again.. SO BE IT!

The foreign-funded ngos and nimwit politicos are too stupid to actually pick up on that. It's all there in plain sight. And so easy to prosecute and bring to justice the generals/acms/admirals who have profited off of making illogical and criminal decisions within their respective forces. The only way to keep a check on both the politicians and the military.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Obviously it's all propaganda. The army is too stupid to actually support IK.



The foreign-funded ngos and nimwit politicos are too stupid to actually pick up on that. It's all there in plain sight. And so easy to prosecute and bring to justice the generals/acms/admirals who have profited off of making illogical and criminal decisions within their respective forces. The only way to keep a check on both the politicians and the military.

it's not about being too stupid. the army has its fair share of the bhadmashiya in them. we'll see what happens.

 

[pzfz]

it's not about being too stupid. the army although less severe has its fair share of the bhadmashiya in them. we'll see what happens.

it needs more of the badmashiyan and less of the whatever the hell it's currently doing. pusillanimity. and try not to be too cute by a half.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

it needs more of the badmashiyan and less of the whatever the hell it's currently doing. pusillanimity. and try not to be too cute by a half.

by bhadmashiya i mean corrupt people that don't want to see positive change. there are enough of those lol.

 

[KAMDEV]

Army Never interfered in Pakistan elections..All election were fair and free in Pakistan starting from Fatimah Jinnah losing to a popular man..

Ayub khan days.

 

[pzfz]

by bhadmashiya i mean corrupt people that don't want to see positive change. there are enough of those lol.

many in the military. not many in the ISI. ISI should take the lead in natsec matters instead of the corp commanders. start by not having a rotating army man take charge of the ISI. Free the ISI. the current kaddu in chief is more concerned about "stability" in afghanistan and "friendly" relations with india.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Hilarious...Nawaz Sharif and PMLN are "liberals"? PPP would be considered right-centre in every other country also.

No real liberals have managed to take power yet. I pray we see them soon.

Ofcourse they are, they market themselves as such! What else you want as proof? The definition of liberal in Pakistan is completely different to what you may know, say in a western country.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Ofcourse they are, they market themselves as such! What else you want as proof? The definition of liberal in Pakistan is completely different to what you may know, say in a western country.

He’s banned again, so you’ll have to wait to continue.

Meanwhile, hope everything is going well for you brother? Hope that Imran Khan wins iA.