Fatwah against Suicide attack by Deobandi ulemas

[waraich66]

shirk shirk, bidah, bidah, haram, haram! these are the words that we use to hear at Mecca and Madina.

I have few questions with these slogans sect.

1.Why you worship Khana Kaba,where nobody ever saw ALLAH,never have been so far Allah come inside Kaba.

2. Why you kiss a "Hajer Aswad", even this is just stone in your eyes.

3. Why you pray compulsory two rakat behind the Foot sign of Hazrat Ibraheim (A.S).

4. Why you cast stone over shitan on just three pillars.

5. Why Allah order to Angels to do Sajdah to Adam,even you think this is haram.wheres Allah had punished iblees to not do the act which you think haram.Moreover Allah had declared iblees a part of hell without any excuse, can you justify???

In Surrah Ibraheim "Iblees would say to the people of hell don't blame me, blame your nafs which you have worshiped in dunya and do shirk"

Do you know what is meaning of sirk?

if some body dont believe in any quality and power of Allah or say the some one has quality or power same as Allah , then he is mushrik .

Allah SWT will wave off all sins (zinah,theft,biddah,Haram etc) but not forgive shirk, which is unforgiveable sin.


Few Bralvi or Shia Uelma and their followers believe that their imams or wali allah (Ali hajvari RA etc) are alive in their grave and they can help if some one demand any help from them.

Which is shirk or Kuffar .

May Allah save us from Shirk and Kuffar and all other sins (zinah,haram,katal,music,alcohal,riba,tuhmat,ghebat etc)

 

[seekers]

Do you know what is meaning of sirk?

if some body dont believe in any quality and power of Allah or say the some one has quality or power same as Allah , then he is mushrik .

Allah SWT will wave off all sins (zinah,theft,biddah,Haram etc) but not forgive shirk, which is unforgiveable sin.


Few Bralvi or Shia Uelma and their followers believe that their imams or wali allah (Ali hajvari RA etc) are alive in their grave and they can help if some one demand any help from them.

Which is shirk or Kuffar .

May Allah save us from Shirk and Kuffar and all other sins (zinah,haram,katal,music,alcohal,riba,tuhmat,ghebat etc)

Certainly you have no answer of my questions even you have also ignore the Surrah Ibraheim reference.you have no logic of your blame game

you people themselves unaware about shirk and labeling the Muslim shirk and kuffar. This is clearly exposed that you people think every sunni and shia mushrik and kuffar.
Yes this is shirk to get help from anyone except Allah in your belief.

Do you answer Why your wahabi kings said "Ya Amrica Madad" when Saddam attack on Kuwait and near KSA.????
why these munafiq did,nt jihad to save their own country,why they had called mushrik USA to help???

 

[seekers]

Another reality of salfi taliban.

 

[waraich66]

Certainly you have no answer of my questions even you have also ignore the Surrah Ibraheim reference.you have no logic of your blame game

What blame game ? any reference please

you people themselves unaware about shirk and labeling the Muslim shirk and kuffar. This is clearly exposed that you people think every sunni and shia mushrik and kuffar.

What do you mean by you people, i am not representing any sect or fiqa here , it is general discussion

Yes this is shirk to get help from anyone except Allah in your belief.

Thanks for accepting truth

Do you answer Why your wahabi kings said "Ya Amrica Madad" when Saddam attack on Kuwait and near KSA.????
why these munafiq did,nt jihad to save their own country,why they had called mushrik USA to help???

I agree with your question but you see to do jehad you need strong iman and right faith ,unity and very deciplined nation , sorry to say which no muslim country had developed neither have plan because then they have to leave the kingships and dictator ships.

US or UK are not our enemy and they dont need to built strong army to capture muslim countries.

Our leadership is their slave and infact our real rulers are western powers US,UK,NATO ,IMF,WORLD BANK.

 

[seekers]

Do you know what is meaning of sirk?



Few Bralvi or Shia Uelma and their followers believe that their imams or wali allah (Ali hajvari RA etc) are alive in their grave and they can help if some one demand any help from them.

Which is shirk or Kuffar .

May Allah save us from Shirk and Kuffar and all other sins (zinah,haram,katal,music,alcohal,riba,tuhmat,ghebat etc)

I mean exactly "You" who blame on Bralvi and Shia and saying shirk and kuffar.

I have no doubt whom does you belong.

stop your kuffar fatwah factory now and looks deeds of your own munafiq wahabi warlord who says "Ya amrica madad" in time of jihad

 

[waraich66]

I mean exactly "You" who blame on Bralvi and Shia and saying shirk and kuffar.

I have no doubt whom does you belong.

stop your kuffar fatwah factory now and looks deeds of your own munafiq wahabi warlord who says "Ya amrica madad" in time of jihad

It is matter of faith and no body can blame any faith but one can mention mistake for sake of his correction ,every one has right to chose what he think right because Allah has given us life once , there is no other chance .


You have accepted that we should demand help from Allah only.It is very simple if some body is demanding help from other then Allah then he is doing sirk , being muslim it is our responsibility to advise him for correction .No body can force any body to change faith nor have right to blame some one .

 

[seekers]

It is matter of faith and no body can blame any faith but one can mention mistake for sake of his correction ,every one has right to chose what he think right because Allah has given us life once , there is no other chance .


You have accepted that we should demand help from Allah only.It is very simple if some body is demanding help from other then Allah then he is doing sirk , being muslim it is our responsibility to advise him for correction .No body can force any body to change faith nor have right to blame some one .

Then you must admit that wahabi kings are the biggest mushrik and kuffar who said "YA amrica madad" on time of their own jihad.

Now stop blaming other and point them who really do shirk and saying other shirk and biddah.

 

[Conscientious objector]

Then you must admit that wahabi kings are the biggest mushrik and kuffar who said "YA amrica madad" on time of their own jihad.

Why are you bringing the dictators of Arabia into this discussion?Have you seen anyone defending these criminals here? No, the saudi rulers are not representatives of the ahlus sunnah so there is no need for you to point out their crimes,fisq,kufr and zulm in an attempt to to have a swipe at all Sunnis.

If you want to turn this discussion into a sectarian one then so be it.I will inform you of the reality of your own ****** cult, but let me inform the mods here and now that this seeker has repeatedly attacked a particular Islamic sect and there has been no mod intervention.I am not calling for mod intervention I only want to point out that when I begin to refute shia'ism and post articles and pictures to do so, then the mods better not show double standards by deleting my responses.

Now stop blaming other and point them who really do shirk and saying other shirk and biddah.

Be warned if you want to engage in a sectarian exchange (and the way you are going it looks like you do) I will be more than happy to oblige and you and Shia'ism will be humiliated.

 

[seekers]

Why are you bringing the dictators of Arabia into this discussion?Have you seen anyone defending these criminals here? No, the saudi rulers are not representatives of the ahlus sunnah so there is no need for you to point out their crimes,fisq,kufr and zulm in an attempt to to have a swipe at all Sunnis.

If you want to turn this discussion into a sectarian one then so be it.I will inform you of the reality of your own ****** cult, but let me inform the mods here and now that this seeker has repeatedly attacked a particular Islamic sect and there has been no mod intervention.I am not calling for mod intervention I only want to point out that when I begin to refute shia'ism and post articles and pictures to do so, then the mods better not show double standards by deleting my responses.



Be warned if you want to engage in a sectarian exchange (and the way you are going it looks like you do) I will be more than happy to oblige and you and Shia'ism will be humiliated.

Mr. Logic less Objector! First i have not said that wahabi kings representing Ahle sunnah.Fundamentalist is continuously abusing brelvis and Shias with shirk and kufar(i think you need to read previous posts).so whom he and you are representing this is very clear.You both continuously blaming Muslims with shirk and kuffar.Mods has already warned you in this matter which is justify.

In sectarian exchange you and even your ulema have no logic.We are already scarifying thousand of lives in your sectarian exchange.

Yazeid had martyr the Family and followers of Ahlebayt(A.S) . he tried his best to humilate the of Ahlebayt(A.S) after Karbala but in 1400 years yazeidiat is a symbol of bad name and HUSSAINEIT(A.S) is Alive with Pride and prestige.

OK try your own efforts if you want to humiliate HUSSANIS.
Karbala is lesson for yazid followers that they could martyr Hussainat but not can humiliate.

 

[waraich66]

Mr. Logic less Objector! First i have not said that wahabi kings representing Ahle sunnah.Fundamentalist is continuously abusing brelvis and Shias with shirk and kufar(i think you need to read previous posts).so whom he and you are representing this is very clear.You both continuously blaming Muslims with shirk and kuffar.Mods has already warned you in this matter which is justify.

In sectarian exchange you and even your ulema have no logic.We are already scarifying thousand of lives in your sectarian exchange.

Yazeid had martyr the Family and followers of Ahlebayt(A.S) . he tried his best to humilate the of Ahlebayt(A.S) after Karbala but in 1400 years yazeidiat is a symbol of bad name and HUSSAINEIT(A.S) is Alive with Pride and prestige.

OK try your own efforts if you want to humiliate HUSSANIS.
Karbala is lesson for yazid followers that they could martyr Hussainat but not can humiliate.

In fact , we sunni have same respect for family of Muhammad PBUH as Shia do.

As per my knowlege Hussain RA was insured by people of Kufa (Iraq) that they will support but they did not.

 

[seekers]

In fact , we sunni have same respect for family of Muhammad PBUH as Shia do.

As per my knowlege Hussain RA was insured by people of Kufa (Iraq) that they will support but they did not.

My Brother! this is biggest illusions about people of Kufa that why they call IMAM(A.S) with 50,000 letters but get involve in myrter of IMAM(A.S).
In brief i told you actual facts which even not knows by many Shias too.
Hazrat Muslim Bin Aqeel,Saffer e Hussain(A.S) was two month ago before Karbala event was send in response of letters of Kufa.
More than 50,000 people do Bayt on Safeer e IMAM HUUSAIN(A.S) .
On the other side ibnay ziyad the governor of kufa had deceive sly called Hazrat Hani (Leading Qabila Head) and myrtr and hang Him on Darul Amara . He had announced that every Kufa man would receive a same treatment if he don't join yazedi lashkar.
This is fact that out of 72 companions of IMAM(A.S) in Karbala ,40s were belong from Kufa.How they came out the circle of ibnay ziyad forces around Kufa and how they join Hussaini Lashkar this is another story.
In this scenario One of Sahaba of IMAM(A.S) said to IMAM(A.S) that Heart of people of Kufa with You, but sowrds are with yazid.

 

[Slides]

Then you must admit that wahabi kings are the biggest mushrik and kuffar who said "YA amrica madad" on time of their own jihad.

Now stop blaming other and point them who really do shirk and saying other shirk and biddah.

Very true. Osama type people were the biggest boot lickers of America during the soviet-afghan war.

 

[waraich66]

My Brother! this is biggest illusions about people of Kufa that why they call IMAM(A.S) with 50,000 letters but get involve in myrter of IMAM(A.S).In brief i told you actual facts which even not knows by many Shias too.
Hazrat Muslim Bin Aqeel,Saffer e Hussain(A.S) was two month ago before Karbala event was send in response of letters of Kufa.
More than 50,000 people do Bayt on Safeer e IMAM HUUSAIN(A.S) .
On the other side ibnay ziyad the governor of kufa had deceive sly called Hazrat Hani (Leading Qabila Head) and myrtr and hang Him on Darul Amara . He had announced that every Kufa man would receive a same treatment if he don't join yazedi lashkar.
This is fact that out of 72 companions of IMAM(A.S) in Karbala ,40s were belong from Kufa.How they came out the circle of ibnay ziyad forces around Kufa and how they join Hussaini Lashkar this is another story.
In this scenario One of Sahaba of IMAM(A.S) said to IMAM(A.S) that Heart of people of Kufa with You, but sowrds are with yazid.

You agreed with weak character of Kufa people .

Invitation of the Kufans


Abdullah bin Zubayr, who reached Mecca before Hussain, had gathered people around him against Yazid, and he is reported to have been harbouring secret ambitions for the caliphate himself. But as soon as Hussain arrived in the city, the influence for Abdullah bin Zubayr's candidature melted away. The people abandoned Abdullah bin Zubayr and gathered around Hussain. In Kufa, as soon as the people received a word of Muawiya's death, they held a series of meetings expressing their support for Hussain. They sent out numerous letters and a succession of messengers, urging Hussain to come in Kufa to guide them, and release from the tyranny and oppression of the Umayyads.

The first letter Hussain received on 10th Ramdan, 60/June 15, 680; it was signed by Suleman bin Surad al-Khuzai, Al-Musayyab bin Najaba, Rifa bin Shaddad, Habib bin al-Muzahir, and Muslim bin Awsaja on behalf of the Kufans, and according to Tabari (2nd vol., p. 233), it reads:- "We thank God for casting down the tyrannical rule of your enemy, who had usurped the power to rule this community without any right, allowed the possession of God to pass into the hands of the powerful and the rich, and killed the best men while allowing the worst of the people to remain alive. We invite you to come to Kufa, as we have no Imam to guide us; and we hope that through you, God will unite us on the path of truth. We do not go to Friday congregational prayers to pray with Noman bin Bashir, the governor of Kufa, nor do we assemble with him at the occasion of the Id. If we hear that you are coming to us, we will oust the governor from our city. Peace and mercy of God be upon you."

Both eastern and western research alike do not lose sight of the fact that Hussain had no political ambition. His action, however, shows that from start to end his strategy was aimed at a much higher goal than simply accession to the caliphate. There is no evidence that he tried, while at Mecca, to enlist active supporters from among the people who gathered around him, or to propagate his cause among the mass of people who congregated in Mecca for the pilgrimage. There is also no evidence that he attempted to depute his emissaries to stir up any rebellion in provinces such as Yamen and Iran, which were sympathetic to the house of Ali. It must be pointed out to this effect that Hussain never mustered even a small force against the Umayyads which was an easy for him. And above all, had he acted promptly on the invitation of Kufans, while the governorship of the city was in the hands of the weak Noman bin Bashir, he might have had a fair chance of success. His speedy arrival would not only have forestalled any effective action on the part of the Umayyad government, but would also have stirred real enthusiasm among the Kufans. This was emphasized by the leaders of Kufa, when, according to Tabari (2nd vol., p. 234) they wrote, "In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate; to al-Hussain bin Ali, from his Shia, the faithful Muslims: Further make haste, for the people are awaiting you, as they have no Imam other than you! So haste, and again haste! Peace." In response to all these approaches, however, Hussain sent only one letter in reply. According to Tabari (2nd vol., p. 235), it reads:- "From Hussain bin Ali to the believers and Muslims. Hani and Sa'id came to me with your letters, they being the last among your messengers and delegations to come to me. I have understood what you said and that you have invited me to come to you because you have no Imam to guide you; and that you hope my arrival there will unite you in the right path and in the truth. I am sending my cousin and the trusted one from my family to report to me about your affairs. If his report conforms with what you have written, I will soon come. But you must be clear about the fact that the Imam is only one who follows the Book of God, makes justice and honesty his conduct and behaviour, judges with truth, and devotes himself to the service of God. Peace."

In spite of repeated appeals and hundreds of letters sent by the Kufans, Hussain did not take a hasty decision, and as a precaution, he sent his cousin, Muslim bin Aqil, to Kufa as his emissary with instructions to ascertain the truth of these representations, and report back of his survey. As soon as Muslim bin Aqil arrived in Kufa, there was held in the house of Suleman bin Surad a meeting, which for the sake of secrecy, was attended only by the leaders of Kufa. Very soon, Muslim bin Aqil quickly gathered thousand of pledges of support, and the number of people who registered their names and swore allegiance to Muslim bin Aqil in the name of Imam Hussain is variously given as 12,000 and 18,000. Soon the movement became so widespread that Muslim bin Aqil was able to preside over the public meetings from the pulpit in the cathedral mosque of Kufa. Confident of Kufan support, Muslim bin Aqil consequently wrote to Hussain to come to Kufa and assume spiritual leadership of the people. His letter was sent to Hussain by Abis bin Habib ash-Shakiri. Having been assured of the extent of Kufan enthusiasm, Hussain decided to go to Iraq.

Receiving word of Muslim bin Aqil's activities in Kufa, Yazid no longer trusting the mild-tempered governor of the town, Noman bin Bashir, and appointed his strong man Ubaidullah bin Ziyad, the then governor of Basra, to take charge of Kufa. Fully aware of the insurrection in Kufa in favour of Hussain, Ibn Ziyad rode into the city in disguise, wearing a black turban, covering his face, and surrounding himself with a small band of horsemen. According to Tabari (2nd vol., p. 241), the Kufans who were expecting Hussain's arrival, mistook Ibn Ziyad for the former, and gathered all around his horse, greeted him enthusiastically, and shouted: "Hail to you, O son of the Prophet; we have been awaiting you." Ibn Ziyad, quietly observing the people's enthusiasm for Hussain, entered the mosque alongwith the crowds, mounted the pulpit, and then suddenly tore the veil from his face. He delivered a terrifying speech, declaring death and unprecedented punishment for the sympathizers of Hussain, while making tempting promises for those who would prove their loyalty to Yazid. The Kufans were stricken by awe and fear, completely lost hearts, and ultimately abandoned Muslim bin Aqil. He was captured and beheaded together with Hani bin Urwa, in whose house he had stayed. This attitude of the Kufans once again demonstrated the weakness of their character and disloyalty.

 

[seekers]

Their were nearly million of Muslim at event of Karbala but only 72 companions had joined with IMAM(A.S) in which 40 s are from Kufa.What do think about weak IMAN of rest of Muslims.Muslims from Mecca and Medina are aware about all facts at that time.
This is very Hard to Make Loyalty with HAQ.
"Sir katana parta hai ghar lutana parta hai"

 

[waraich66]

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What do think about weak IMAN of rest of Muslims

What do you mean by above statement?