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NS is one of the few politician in Pakistan who actually makes few good moves in foreign policy.
There is reason we consider india our greatest enemy ........
the worst ever foreign office and foreign policy shown by nawaz government is obvious .surely it has worked in India's favor . you can support his shitty foreign office and diplomacy ...
 
IMO, the new administration is in a tight spot. Old grand coalitions are falling apart giving rise to historical bilateral staffs staying within one own turfs. It appear only the Chinese/Turkish/Pak/Russian folks are surging ahead with experiments....



It's good to ride with China Turkey Russia but at same time i worry is it good to dive in US Relation with great expectations coz Turkey and are right now our natural allies and US is unpredictable in changing the mood of relation 1 day they make you high as heaven and next day they send you to hell. @HAKIKAT Nevertheless i respect what you write Appreciate highly :-)
 
There is reason we consider india our greatest enemy ........
the worst ever foreign office and foreign policy shown by nawaz government is obvious .surely it has worked in India's favor . you can support his shitty foreign office and diplomacy ...

This is why i consider NS is smarter than others

1- In recent issue between India and Pakistan, trust me, many like me still beleive that NS and Pakistan is still nice enough to India to extend the hand of friendship in spite of India's aggressive stand. Even to some extent, i feel, rest of the world powers feel that Pakistan is dealing with current India and Pakistan in a better way than India...Kudos to NS and his approch. Regular citizen may not see the long term benifit, but you can well understand if you see it in broad perspective.

2- Pakistan adpopted a policy where it is neither close to US not enemey to Russia. Maintaining equal distant with both nations and trying to get beinifit from both nations.

3- Your China Pakistan relation is good.
4- Your economy is really doing good in last couple of years.
 
Pakistan is going to find out there's only so much President Trump can deliver.

No one wants to get involved with Pakistan-India issues.
 
This is why i consider NS is smarter than others

1- In recent issue between India and Pakistan, trust me, many like me still beleive that NS and Pakistan is still nice enough to India to extend the hand of friendship in spite of India's aggressive stand. Even to some extent, i feel, rest of the world powers feel that Pakistan is dealing with current India and Pakistan in a better way than India...Kudos to NS and his approch. Regular citizen may not see the long term benifit, but you can well understand if you see it in broad perspective.

2- Pakistan adpopted a policy where it is neither close to US not enemey to Russia. Maintaining equal distant with both nations and trying to get beinifit from both nations.

3- Your China Pakistan relation is good.
4- Your economy is really doing good in last couple of years.




Your words are good but whatever is happening its not because of him being smart its because the road is already build for him all he needs to do is drive on this successful road to look like a smart PM otherwise he has nothing to offer but corruption and corrupt person shouldn't be praised. The relation with US is unpredictable with Russia its going in positive but the Most important relationship with Turkey and china is up and Inshallah till the end of the world it will stay up
 
Your words are good but whatever is happening its not because of him being smart its because the road is already build for him all he needs to do is drive on this successful road to look like a smart PM otherwise he has nothing to offer but corruption and corrupt person shouldn't be praised. The relation with US is unpredictable with Russia its going in positive but the Most important relationship with Turkey and china is up and Inshallah till the end of the world it will stay up


Again, you are the best judge of your leaders. I am trying to provide an outsider view from India. I respect your opinion about your leaders.
 
Initial calls and apologetic visits aside I think US attitude and actions towards Pakistan will depend upon two things, one under Pakistan's control and one not so much.

Trump is the kind of megalomaniac that is easily won over by flattery but not of the obvious 'you are great' kind. Give him something that shows him as the great negotiator and deal maker : I think Pakistan will free that doctor involved in the Osama bin Laden case so Trump can claim he did it. Or something similar. In return US under Trump gives something and that follows Pakistan delivering Haqqani.

The other factor is how Trump disposes of China issues. If US China clash to much Pakistan may be put in a grinding situation.
 
This is why i consider NS is smarter than others

1- In recent issue between India and Pakistan, trust me, many like me still beleive that NS and Pakistan is still nice enough to India to extend the hand of friendship in spite of India's aggressive stand. Even to some extent, i feel, rest of the world powers feel that Pakistan is dealing with current India and Pakistan in a better way than India...Kudos to NS and his approch. Regular citizen may not see the long term benifit, but you can well understand if you see it in broad perspective.

2- Pakistan adpopted a policy where it is neither close to US not enemey to Russia. Maintaining equal distant with both nations and trying to get beinifit from both nations.

3- Your China Pakistan relation is good.
4- Your economy is really doing good in last couple of years.


Again, you are the best judge of your leaders. I am trying to provide an outsider view from India. I respect your opinion about your leaders.

you have good observation of Pakistani leadership which most of Pakistanis lack. NS is playing very smart although he has, if not many than not few also, shortcoming but he is still better than all leaders which Pakistan had in Past even ayub (sorry pakistani fellas).

Actually, in my part of world, which is on your western frontier, our people are being feed by propaganda factories i.e ISPR run by military establishment. They have killed self respect of pakistani nation because they had crushed their votes which is basic human right by military coup. They never let people to like democratic system which is not in their favor.

People should learn in pakistan that they are not different from whole world. when a system is running very successfully in whole world then why not in Pakistan but you have to give space and you have to give respect atleast to your vote because you have selected him. Army have no rights to ask questions to govt but people. One day it will happen if they let this system to run.
 
Whether Fatemi is the right person I don't know. Let's gauge the mood. I have no issues with breaking the ice, but we need trade and not aid. As for other cooperation, we should not compromise on our supreme national interests. Where there is space for comprise we should negotiate for the best outcome.
 
you have good observation of Pakistani leadership which most of Pakistanis lack. NS is playing very smart although he has, if not many than not few also, shortcoming but he is still better than all leaders which Pakistan had in Past even ayub (sorry pakistani fellas).

Actually, in my part of world, which is on your western frontier, our people are being feed by propaganda factories i.e ISPR run by military establishment. They have killed self respect of pakistani nation because they had crushed their votes which is basic human right by military coup. They never let people to like democratic system which is not in their favor.

People should learn in pakistan that they are not different from whole world. when a system is running very successfully in whole world then why not in Pakistan but you have to give space and you have to give respect atleast to your vote because you have selected him. Army have no rights to ask questions to govt but people. One day it will happen if they let this system to run.

Spot on..i agree with you statements...Truely speaking, I am a big fan of NS the way he transformed the image of Pakistan in recent years. If you compare between the politician and Army leaders of Pakistan in last 20 years, i see him as a mature seasoned politician. I think , even he tried to improve India Pakistan relation in 1998 but Kargil episode by your Army spoiled his effort to bring normalcy to his effort.

And another thing, which i feel suprised, every Pakistan posters always complain about. If anything good happens, then Military takes the credit, but if something goes wrong, then political leaders are made as scapegoat...At the end of the political leaders are being selected out of mass only...
 
And another thing, which i feel suprised, every Pakistan posters always complain about. If anything good happens, then Military takes the credit, but if something goes wrong, then political leaders are made as scapegoat...At the end of the political leaders are being selected out of mass only...

How True and straight forward observation:enjoy:
 
How True and straight forward observation:enjoy:

Thanks for your compliment...Since last couple of months, if you see my posts, i have changed my perception in the PDF...I am just trying to respond to the posts based the facts and what i really perceive that typical binary of India and Pakistan relation...I hope that i will succeed in my approach in being rational in my thought.
 
I like this proactive approach
No doubt, This is in the interest of Pakistan for good relation with U.S.A. We remained front line state on war against terrorism. Hope, this time we have better plan and pro active strategy. Obama never came in Pakistan, I just wish if we get bush type relation.
 

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