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Key Taliban commander killed in Swat

MINGORA/PESHAWAR/SWAT: A key Taliban commander was killed in a clash with security forces in Swat on Tuesday, officials said. Security officials said Ikramuddin, a close associate of Baitullah Mehsud, was killed following a clash in Chota Kalam area of Kabal tehsil. However, Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan said Ikramuddin died accidentally when he fired his pistol. Two children were killed as a mortar shell hit a house in Madina Colony area of Kanjoo tehsil in Swat on Tuesday. In Shakardara area of Matta, militants blew up the houses of Awami National Party leader Muzaffar Ali Khan and his three brothers. The houses were empty at the time. Militants also blew up a girls’ high school in Manglor in Bagh tehsil. saleem athar

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I don't wish to go too far off the topic but under the general umbrella of the "war on terror", what I feel is sorely lacking in Pakistani media is its support in building public opinion against the Taliban. I agree that the media must be objective and report the facts but why haven't we in Pakistan been given a chance to familiarize ourselves with the families of suicide bombing victims; to see first hand the thousands of more lives that the terrorists have ruined? All we are given to believe is that the Taliban is made up of Pakistanis and that a great harm is being caused by fighting them.

Furthermore, when will we acknowledge the fact that this "war on terror" is a civil war and it must be fought for our country's salvation? Najam Sethi used, what I found to be frightening, the words "The war to end Pakistan has now begun." Chilling. I grew up in the U.S. and went to England for university. I came back to Pakistan because it was the only place on this Earth I could call home. And now I feel I may not have a home at all.

Anyway, apologies for the digression.


Agreed with you on the part of Media at the same time well i feel you are becoming part of the same media by accepting the analysis by a person like Najam Sethi and a paper like Dilay Times which has Indian connection and which spares no chance to malign Pakistan.
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Agreed with you on the part of Media at the same time well i feel you are becoming part of the same media by accepting the analysis by a person like Najam Sethi and a paper like Dilay Times which has Indian connection and which spares no chance to malign Pakistan.
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jana jee - in your opinion whom would you consider politically correct media and whom would you classify as not.
one or two examples please.
 
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jana jee - in your opinion whom would you consider politically correct media and whom would you classify as not.
one or two examples please.

:) being from media i am not shy to accept that all of us are more like a corporate sector now with opening of too much new outlets and the pouring of dollars in for footages and newsreports (irrespective of their nature of authenticity).

But indeed i would not consider a paper like DT that runs a fake news of arrest of 35 Pakistanis by China which China denied and said the new was fabricated.
No matter how much such news are proved wrong in the end, the damage these done in the first place is enough to add damage to the country's integration.

Why on earth Media should not be draged to Court on this kind of lies.??
 
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:) being from media i am not shy to accept that all of us are more like a corporate sector now with opening of too much new outlets and the pouring of dollars in for footages and newsreports (irrespective of their nature of authenticity).

But indeed i would not consider a paper like DT that runs a fake news of arrest of 35 Pakistanis by China which China denied and said the new was fabricated.
No matter how much such news are proved wrong in the end, the damage these done in the first place is enough to add damage to the country's integration.

Why on earth Media should not be draged to Court on this kind of lies.??

that would be against "the freedom of speech of the media"
 
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that would be against "the freedom of speech of the media"

:) US court jailed a woman journalist for not revealing the idenity of her sources and similarly others were jailed for nothing.


In our case as much as freedom of speech is concerned well if they are doing so its nothing wrong for example if they are airing their personal views and they are writing their own views and opinion in the form of an analysis then you can call it under the jurisdiction of "freedom of speech"

But as far as news reporting is concerned its always based on facts not personal opinions here i do not think so freedom of speech has to anything with it.

If you publish something about me without having any proof that too in the form of a news then i can file a contempt case against you in the court right ???
So why on earth if newspaper publish a news item that is too fake one, why such newspaper should not be drag to court ??
 
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19 militants killed in clashes near Pakistan-Afghan border: officials KHAR, Aug 27 (AFP): Pakistani troops killed 19 militants in clashes near the Afghan border as the government struggled to combat an upsurge in Taliban bloodshed, officials said Wednesday. The army said in a statement that 11 militants were killed in a gunbattle that broke out after a military checkpost came under rebel attack in South Waziristan tribal region. “Around 75-100 militants attacked a checkpost on the night of August 26-27. Security forces effectively repulsed the attack. Reportedly 11 militants were killed and 15-20 others injured,” the statement said. Separately, Pakistani helicopter gunships pounded militant hideouts on Wednesday in the troubled Bajaur tribal region near the Afghan border, killing eight rebels. “Helicopters shelled militant hideouts in the Salarzai and Nawagai areas of Bajaur tribal region today, killing eight militants and wounding 12 others,” a security official told AFP. (First Posted @ 14:40 PST Updated @ 19:06 PST)

Now, the incidents recently in South Waziristan have actually been reported to be Mullah Nazir's men, and have been relatively smaller in scale.

Jana JI, could you confirm if this was also by Nazir's men, or B Mehsud?

If it is Nazir, we could very well see the split we created between the Taliban ending, and the PA fighting a much larger and relatively united force.
 
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More updates to the situation:


Nearly 50 militants killed in clash with Pakistan forces
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Officials KHAR, Pakistan, Aug 27 (AFP): Pakistani troops Wednesday killed up to 50 militants, including foreign fighters, near the troubled Afghan border, security officials said. More than 30 rebels died in Bajaur tribal district. “Security forces killed 25-30 militants, including some important commanders and foreigners in Bajaur's Raghan region,” a security official told AFP. In another clash, Pakistani helicopter gunships pounded militant hideouts Wednesday in a different part of Bajaur bordering Afghanistan, killing eight rebels and wounding 12 others, another official said.

The army said in a statement Wednesday that 11 militants were killed in a gunbattle that broke out after a military checkpost came under rebel attack in South Waziristan tribal region. “Around 75-100 militants attacked a checkpost on the night of August 26-27. Security forces repulsed the attack. Reportedly 11 militants were killed and 15-20 others injured,” the statement said. (First Posted @ 14:40 PST Updated @ 21:04 PST)
 
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The only thing I can see stopping Pakistan from eliminating this threat or significantly marginalizing it is if the military or GoP get cold feet, or are pressured into stopping by 'popular opinion' molded by the Taliban appeasing talking heads on TV.

Yes popular opinion might go against the coalition, but the GoP has 4.5 years to win over the people - it should eliminate this threat now and focus on the economy.
 
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Now, the incidents recently in South Waziristan have actually been reported to be Mullah Nazir's men, and have been relatively smaller in scale.

Jana JI, could you confirm if this was also by Nazir's men, or B Mehsud?

If it is Nazir, we could very well see the split we created between the Taliban ending, and the PA fighting a much larger and relatively united force.

Baitullah men.

Nazir men are not fighting against the Government. Just about 15 days back US and Baitullah men target Haji Nazir. They succeeded in killing pro-Pakistan Haji Namdar but failed to get Nazir.
 
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The only thing I can see stopping Pakistan from eliminating this threat or significantly marginalizing it is if the military or GoP get cold feet, or are pressured into stopping by 'popular opinion' molded by the Taliban appeasing talking heads on TV.

Yes popular opinion might go against the coalition, but the GoP has 4.5 years to win over the people - it should eliminate this threat now and focus on the economy.

Agreed as before taking on the outsiders you have to eleminate the internal allies of these outsiders and your rivals as was done by Salahuddin Ayubi who first dealth with internal assasins or Takfiris just like the Baitullah Mehsud and his foreign frineds from central asia, and then Ayubi took the fight against Kharijis
 
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(ISLAMABAD, Pakistan) — Security forces clashed with militants across Pakistan's wild tribal belt Wednesday, trading fire with insurgents in a health center and repelling a major assault on an outpost in a region known as an al-Qaeda safe haven.

As many as 49 insurgents died, officials claimed.

Troops are engaged in bloody offensives against violent Islamic extremists in the northern Swat valley and in Bajur, a region considered a launchpad for Taliban operations into neighboring Afghanistan and a possible hideaway for Osama bin Laden.

In a sign that a third front may be opening up, the military said dozens of insurgents assailed a fort in the South Waziristan region.

Troops guarding Tiarza Fort and a checkpoint on a nearby bridge "repulsed the attack," killing 11 militants, a military statement said.

In the deadliest fighting, troops rained gunfire and artillery on militants holed up in a health center in Bajur, killing 30, said military spokesman Maj. Murad Khan.

The military assessed the toll with the help of intercepted radio traffic among the insurgents, he said, claiming that no troops were hurt in the hours-long battle.

In what appeared to be separate attacks, police said eight militants died when government forces fired on suspect vehicles in two areas of Bajur on Wednesday morning.

The reported casualties could not be verified independently. Few reporters work in the tribal region for fear they could become a target in the conflict. Spokesmen for the militants could not be reached for comment.

Officials say hundreds of militants have died in the weeks-old operation, while residents say civilians have also been killed.

An estimated 200,000 people have fled to safer areas.

Suspected militant hideouts in South Waziristan have been targeted in a stream of suspected U.S. missile attacks, including one that killed a senior al-Qaida commander in July.

Aminullah Wazir, a shopkeeper in Wana, the region's main town, said security forces imposed a curfew in the area Wednesday. Shops were shut and the streets deserted, he said.

"We heard shelling and gunfire almost all night," Wazir told The Associated Press by telephone.

Pakistan's five-month-old government initially dabbled in peace talks with militants. But the initiatives have borne little fruit, and U.S. officials have been pressing for stiffer action against insurgents they blame for soaring violence in Afghanistan.

Pakistan this week banned the Pakistani wing of the Taliban movement after it claimed responsibility for a double suicide bombing that killed 67 people at an arms factory near the capital.

On Tuesday, gunmen fired at the car of a senior U.S. diplomat in the northwestern city of Peshawar and a bomb killed seven at a roadside restaurant near the capital, Islamabad.

Tensions have also flared in the southern metropolis of Karachi, Pakistan's economic and financial hub.

A dispute on Tuesday between student followers of two feuding political parties — one secular, one Islamist — escalated into a gunbattle that left three people dead on Karachi's university campus, officials said.

Musharraf resigned Aug. 18 to avoid impeachment charges, triggering a scramble for power that has brought down the coalition of political parties that ended the former coup leader's nine-year rule.

Lawmakers are expected to elect Asif Ali Zardari, the widower of slain former leader Benazir Bhutto, as Musharraf's replacement on Sept. 6.

Pakistani officials played down a Financial Times report this week claiming Zardari had severe mental health problems as recently as 2007, though they acknowledged he had suffered from stress related to alleged torture in prison and separation from his family.

Zardari spent years in prison on corruption allegations.

"He only received counseling," said Wajid Hasan, Pakistan's ambassador in Britain and a friend of Zardari's.

"I have spent long periods of time with him in the past two years," Hasan said Tuesday, adding that recent examinations "showed that he is fit."

A spokesman for the party of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, which bolted the coalition on Monday, said that a "patient" shouldn't be allowed to contest the election.

"Similarly, if a sitting president suffers from such mental and psychological problems, constitutionally he cannot retain his office," Sadiqul Farooq said.

Associated Press writers Ishtiaq Mehsud in Dera Ismail Khan and Ashraf Khan in Karachi contributed to this report.
 
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Wednesday, August 27, 2008

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan -- Pakistani troops drove off a Taliban attack on a fort and pounded another band of militants holed up in a health center, officials said Wednesday as fighting spread to a third area of the tribal belt along the Afghan border.

The violence came a week after the threat of impeachment forced longtime U.S. ally Pervez Musharraf to resign as president, triggering a scramble for power that resulted in the collapse of Pakistan's governing coalition.

The party led by former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto until her assassination last December is now in a position to dominate the government and it is toughening its stance against Islamic extremists at a time when they are becoming increasingly bold.

The Taliban have claimed responsibility for a wave of suicide bombings, including one outside the country's biggest weapons complex last week that killed at least 67 people, almost all of them civilians.

Security forces have been waging offensives against militants for several weeks in the northern Swat valley and in the Bajur tribal area, considered a launch pad for Taliban operations into Afghanistan and a possible hideaway for Osama bin Laden.

On Wednesday, fighting spread to South Waziristan, a tribal region that has seen a stream of suspected U.S. missile attacks on al-Qaida hideouts in recent months.

The military said 75 to 100 militants assaulted the Tiarza Fort around midnight Tuesday, but troops guarding the post and a checkpoint on a nearby bridge "responded effectively and repulsed the attack."

Its statement said 11 militants were killed and up to 20 wounded, but made no mention of any casualties among the troops. Spokesmen for insurgent groups could not be contacted to discuss the government's claim.

Aminullah Wazir, a shopkeeper in Wana, the main town in South Waziristan, said authorities imposed a curfew in the area Wednesday. He said shops were shuttered and the streets deserted.

"We heard shelling and gunfire almost all night," Wazir told The Associated Press by telephone.

The fiercest battles in Pakistan's restive northwest have been in Swat and Bajur, where officials say hundreds of militants have been killed by military operations and some 200,000 residents have fled their homes to escape the violence.

In the deadliest incident Wednesday, troops rained gunfire and artillery shells on militants sheltering in a health center in Bajur, killing as many as 30 and wounding many more, said a military spokesman, Maj. Murad Khan.

Security forces estimated the toll with the help of intercepted radio traffic among the insurgents, he said.

Police said an additional eight militants were killed and 10 wounded when troops fired on suspect vehicles in two areas of Bajur early Wednesday.

Later in the day, militants ambushed a government convoy near Wana. Khan said there were several casualties, without giving details. But an intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to journalists, said two paramilitary troopers were killed and several others were missing.

Pakistan's 5-month-old government initially sought to calm militant violence by holding peace talks. But the initiatives have borne little fruit, and U.S. officials have been pressing for tougher action against insurgent groups they blame for rising violence across the border in Afghanistan.

In addition to a string of suicide bombings in the last week, gunmen fired at the car of a senior U.S. diplomat in the northwestern city of Peshawar on Tuesday and a bomb killed seven people at a roadside restaurant near Islamabad, the capital.

Pakistanis and the country's Western backers worry the political turmoil since Musharraf's ouster after nine years in power is distracting the government from dealing with militants as well as taking steps to shore up the flagging economy.

On Wednesday, the Karachi stock exchange's benchmark 100-share index fell 3 percent. The index has slid more than 40 percent since April and stands at its lowest level in more than two years.

Lawmakers are to elect a new president Sept. 6. Asif Ali Zardari, Bhutto's widower and the current leader of her party, which has the biggest block of seats in parliament, is widely expected to win.

Critics have questioned Zardari's suitability in light of a Financial Times report that his lawyers told a London court that he suffered from serious mental problems.

Zardari's party said he had suffered great stress during his confinement in Pakistani jails on corruption charges, but is now fully fit to lead the country.

Pakistan's second biggest party, headed by former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, which bolted the governing coalition Monday, said Wednesday that a "patient" shouldn't be allowed to run for president.

"Similarly, if a sitting president suffers from such mental and psychological problems, constitutionally he cannot retain his office," said the spokesman for Sharif's party, Sadiqul Farooq.
 
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ATC declares Mehsud proclaimed offender

RAWALPINDI: A special anti-terrorism court (ATC) on Wednesday declared Taliban commander Baitullah Mehsud and 11 others proclaimed offenders (PO). Judge Sakhi Muhammad Kahut was hearing the case of two explosives-laden vehicles recovered from Rawalpindi and directed the Federal Investigation Agency to arrest the POs and produce them in court on September 27. The police produced twelve other persons, allegedly involved in terrorist activities, in the ATC amid tight security. The court also ordered publication of advertisements in the media for the arrest of Mehsud and the other accused, and to display the ads at police stations and public places for the PO’s identification by the general public. app

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