farmer commit suicide in AAP ralley live on TV

[Echo_419]

Sir,

The areas where irrigation is underdeveloped is because either there is of availability of water or there is no need for irrigation because those areas receive such high rainfall that any attempt at irrigation would lead to waterlogging.

It should be noted that India has largest irrigated area in the world in both absolute and relative term and there is little scope of expanding it any further. Vidarbha is drought prone, but unless water of Brahmaputra will be diverted there, there is very little that could be done to alleviate drought conditions in Vidarbha.

The point is that there are much more people in farming sector than that sector could sustain. 50% population just produces 15% of country's GDP. This is indication of unproductive employment of labour. This labour has to be diverted to other productive sectors in order to employ them gainfully. The change in Land acquisition act ,against which all these "pro-poor" parties are agitation , are needed for industrial development which would give an alternative to farming 2 bigha land.

Agreed industrial development isbtge need of the hour

I'm sorry but this this what you get when you rabble rouse and create a frenzy, instead of trying to have a rational and civilised discussion on the matter what is the AAP and Congress doing? Screaming at the top of their voices, telling half truths, calling the Govt names etc etc

For the Chief Minister to claim to be a man of the people and yet not bat an eyelid when a man commits suicide right before his eyes is beyond disgusting.

You need to understand their breed

 

[IndoCarib]

drama stage managed by AAP. For Kejri, speach was more important than saving the life of the farmer

Arvind Kejriwal Under Fire Amid Politics Over Farmer Suicide at AAP Rally

The chief minister has been criticised for waiting to address the rally before he visited the hospital to which the farmer was taken.

DOES AAP REALLY CARE FOR FARMERS !! ??

 

[anonymus]

But the government, especially the state governments do not undertake these issues, they are interested is pushing through ridiculous issues instead. Irrigation is one of the most important areas, and for a farmer to see his crops fizzling out purely due to drought is one of the most heart wrenching issues. Debts leading to loosing ones land, house, status among friends and other farmers, create an unbearable situation. Lack of education or government help doesn't help the poor farmers in rationalizing the situation.

As I have explained above, Irrigation could not be expanded as there is no potential to expand it, barring a massive interbasin water diversion scheme

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Yes, All Faults is Modis.. Modi is responsible for everything.

I am not finding fault in Modi, I am just giving a scenario. Neither I am blind Modi's bhakt nor I am AAPtards till I see something on ground from any of these. Both are new and have done most of the talking.

Scenarios not comparable.

In Bihar, Modi had to work to prevent a stampede and panic. Kejru here could easily have stopped speaking and gone to talk to this farmer.

Yes Yes, all responsibilities is of Kejriwal. What ever Modi does that is "Socha Samjha" step in right direction. Stop judging and dictate people what should be done, what should not be done.

 

[Nicky G]

Yes Yes, all responsibilities is of Kejriwal. What ever Modi does that is "Socha Samjha" step in right direction. Stop judging and dictate people what should be done, what should not be done.

Sure, now call be a Bhakth and be done with it. If you feel it was not incumbent on Kejru to stop the rally to save the man or stop even after the man had died, its you call.

Besides, it was a political blunder. He could have gone and championed the farmer and earned good mileage for himself. A missed opportunity.

 

[jamahir]

I don't get it, what you're taking about is going to cost trillions of dollars

what is going to cost trillions of dollars??

on a immediate scale, in rural areas...

- farm lands should be rearranged to make them bigger.
- they should be set up for collective farming.
- farmer collectives should be formed and land distributed to them for free.
- - - - this does not require much spending by government, as it is mostly paper-work.
- if any collective does not have proper equipment and material, government provide that for free... the money is to be redirected from arms purchase.

parallely, "urban farming" and "vertical farming" must be introduced into urban areas so that the near-total dependence on rural farming is removed... this has great social and political effect.

venezuela has been doing "urban farming" in a big way now, combined with the gradual rearrangement of venezuela into direct-democracy communes ( FAO Representative in Venezuela Highlights Urban Farming Initiatives — City Farmer News )...

The Venezuelan government has a good vision for the future. Many would think that Venezuelans have no need for urban agriculture, because there is plenty of land to sow. But from a futuristic perspective, society’s great challenge lies in the city.

from ( polis: Urban Agriculture in Caracas )...

from ( URBAN FARMING IN VENEZUELA )...

Cuba exports city farming 'revolution' to Venezuela

22 April 2003
by Magdalena Morales, Reuters, Caracas, Venezuela
ENN News Story

In a conference room at Venezuela's military academy, a group of soldiers listen attentively to a duo of Cuban instructors.

The topic being taught is not revolutionary guerrilla warfare as once practiced by Fidel Castro or "Che" Guevara, but the "organoponic farming revolution," communist Cuba's latest export to its closest South American ally, Venezuela.

venezuela is a great teacher and innovator in agriculture and can teach india a lot.

and is hardly going to be self sustaining because of adverse selection. I can just farm if I want to without any expectation of efficiency.

the american-government-created "green revolution of india" from the 1960's has been a utter failure and big contributor to world pollution... the failure has been social and economic ( not much of export )... so a proper scientific farming system, socialist style, must be adopted.

by your use of the word "adverse selection" if you mean "diverse selection of crop", then the main thing would be to abolish 99 percent of rice cropping and convert those lands to grass type ( wheat, maize ) which are hardy crops and actually healthy.

the rest of the cropping ( vegetables, pulses etc ) must be changed to create a radically changed diet for india rather than keep unhealthy or unhardy crops just because they are traditional.

farming must be scientific, whether technically or politically.

Why the hell should I, as a tax payer, pay for all this?

why should taxes on citizens even exist??

by taxing people, the government departments are asking citizens to pay for their miseries.

 

[unbiasedopinion]

drama stage managed by AAP. For Kejri, his speach was more important than saving the life of the farmer

Arvind Kejriwal Under Fire Amid Politics Over Farmer Suicide at AAP Rally

The chief minister has been criticised for waiting to address the rally before he visited the hospital to which the farmer was taken.

DOES AAP REALLY CARE FOR FARMERS !! ??

Yes Yes, had Kejriwal gone to the Hospital he would hv done the super magic and saved the farmer. The suicide done by the farmer is because his lost faith in the central government system and state government system (Rajasthan) currently headed by BJP. How come AAP is in the picture? Did any central minister visit the family yet in the hospital? No...All the leaders are holding only political posts in the party...none from the minister.....So stop attacking local government.

Talking about humanity? Is there any left? There are ample news in the newspaper, where in road accidents, people keep on suffering on the roads, but no one stops to help them. So all the humanity is expecting from Delhi;s Kejriwal but not from the delhi;s own people? Mute spectacle and blind followers. Delhi has gone to the dogs and there is no humanity left.

Tell me why the Delhi Police didn't act when they were present there in huge number. Isn't pro-actively stopping a crime (Suicide is a crime)?
Still TV debate is about what should have been done by AAP etc..but nothing is discussed about why it happened? What forced these farmers to commit suicide. What shall be done to stop this mad rush towards ending life by farmers...No one is willing to talk about it. No one is willing to do anything about it. This is hte same story which was there in India 20 years ago, now and will be there in next coming year....

 

[IndoCarib]

I am not finding fault in Modi, I am just giving a scenario. Neither I am blind Modi's bhakt nor I am AAPtards till I see something on ground from any of these. Both are new and have done most of the talking.


Yes Yes, all responsibilities is of Kejriwal. What ever Modi does that is "Socha Samjha" step in right direction. Stop judging and dictate people what should be done, what should not be done.

If he really wanted to show that he cared for the farmers, he should have cancelled his speech and visited the hospital instead. He indeed scored a self goal here. The damage is done already. No need for any excuses from AAPTARDS

 

[Nicky G]

drama stage managed by AAP. For Kejri, speach was more important than saving the life of the farmer

Arvind Kejriwal Under Fire Amid Politics Over Farmer Suicide at AAP Rally

The chief minister has been criticised for waiting to address the rally before he visited the hospital to which the farmer was taken.

DOES AAP REALLY CARE FOR FARMERS !! ??

So is it true that this man was an AAP volunteer? Then the angle that a stage managed plan that went wrong certainly needs to be investigated.

 

[jamahir]

No BBC but this

Syria used 'toxic chemicals' in Idlib barrel bombings - Al Jazeera English

al-jazeera??

that same channel owned by the qatar king?? that same qatar which hosts usa navy ships?? that same qatar whose small army sent up to 5000 soldiers into libya as part of the nato invasion?? that same qatar which provides training and funding to the terrorists invading syria??

and al-jazeera is quoting "human rights watch" which is a cia disinfo/spy agency like "amnesty international".

you rather should look for truthful sources like kcna ( north korea's news agency ) as north korea is not a colony of the neo-colonials of the western bloc.

 

[IndoCarib]

Yes Yes, had Kejriwal gone to the Hospital he would hv done the super magic and saved the farmer. The suicide done by the farmer is because his lost faith in the central government system and state government system (Rajasthan) currently headed by BJP. How come AAP is in the picture? Did any central minister visit the family yet in the hospital? No...All the leaders are holding only political posts in the party...none from the minister.....So stop attacking local government.

Talking about humanity? Is there any left? There are ample news in the newspaper, where in road accidents, people keep on suffering on the roads, but no one stops to help them. So all the humanity is expecting from Delhi;s Kejriwal but not from the delhi;s own people? Mute spectacle and blind followers. Delhi has gone to the dogs and there is no humanity left.

Tell me why the Delhi Police didn't act when they were present there in huge number. Isn't pro-actively stopping a crime (Suicide is a crime)?
Still TV debate is about what should have been done by AAP etc..but nothing is discussed about why it happened? What forced these farmers to commit suicide. What shall be done to stop this mad rush towards ending life by farmers...No one is willing to talk about it. No one is willing to do anything about it. This is hte same story which was there in India 20 years ago, now and will be there in next coming year....

Tell me why the Delhi Police didn't act when they were present there in huge number. Isn't pro-actively stopping a crime (Suicide is a crime)?

Much tried and abused line by AAPTARDS. When you allow things to turn nasty, and just sit and watch, and then blame the Delhi Police, because THEY ARE NOT IN YOUR CONTROL

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Sure, now call be a Bhakth and be done with it. If you feel it was not incumbent on Kejru to stop the rally to save the man or stop even after the man had died, its you call.

Besides, it was a political blunder. He could have gone and championed the farmer and earned good mileage for himself. A missed opportunity.

Yes Yes, looking for political mileage on plight of farmers... If not before his death then after his death......

Open your eyes, from logic point, kejriwal was organizing the rally to help the farmers by opposing the Land Acquisition bill. So whats the point of hanging oneself in this rally? Kejriwal does not have any power to do anything for this farmer. But i can understand a farmer who is depressed and is already on the verge of losing everything cannot think of this. Still the anger should be towards central government rather than kejriwal.

By focusing on how kejriwal should hv reacted, BJP is just trying to divert the topic of farmer suicide.

 

[IndoCarib]

So is it true that this man was an AAP volunteer? Then the angle that a stage managed plan that went wrong certainly needs to be investigated.

Being drama queens, stage managing such events is not hard for them. Let the investigattions conclude

 

[Nicky G]

Yes Yes, looking for political mileage on plight of farmers... If not before his death then after his death......

Open your eyes, from logic point, kejriwal was organizing the rally to help the farmers by opposing the Land Acquisition bill. So whats the point of hanging oneself in this rally? Kejriwal does not have any power to do anything for this farmer. But i can understand a farmer who is depressed and is already on the verge of losing everything cannot think of this. Still the anger should be towards central government rather than kejriwal.

By focusing on how kejriwal should hv reacted, BJP is just trying to divert the topic of farmer suicide.

Incorrect. Kejru was organizing the rally for his own political gains. Nothing to substantiate that he has anymore concern for farmers than anyone else.

The CM of Delhi has no power to help one farmer? Silly. He could have gone to the farmer and stated that he would take up the issue, highlighted it in the media and actually helped him and forced BJP to act. It was a great political opportunity. He could have been a hero.

Besides it seems the man was a volunteer. It could very well have been a staged drama gone wrong. So lets wait for the investigation to complete.

Why should I be angry towards the state or center? What are specifics of this case that the government is responsible for?

Is every death to be blamed on the government or are farmer's life more important?

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Much tried and abused line by AAPTARDS. When you allow things to turn nasty, and just sit and watch coudnt, and then blame the Delhi Police, beacuse THEY ARE NOT IN YOUR CONTORL

Okay, I am warning you to stop calling me AAPtards as I am not. Talk to me normally else I will start using words. Typical shoot the messenger rather than the message. huh???
What is your credential finding fault in the person who is voted by more than 60% of delhities with more than 90% seats.

Point is both the central and state governments should act in the interest of the people rather than doing pity politics.

Yes yes , Modi is responsible for it... Police is under Modi... Sometimes I wonder what is difference between Pakistani and AAP supporter..

Yes Delhi Police is under Central government. Get your facts right then come back and talk. And stop bring Pakistan here....This is internal India;s debate....