Great idea, the private security firms to be upgraded and should be granted with mandate to interfere where ever necessary
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Great idea, the private security firms to be upgraded and should be granted with mandate to interfere where ever necessary
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My analysis from CCTV footage that the killers were highly trained assassin..they came with calm..took out their target and escaped without a sign in matter of second. Heck the were not even in hurry to speed their escape after executing their mission...and such trained assassins in Karachi are only present in MQM...
Tablighi Jamaat works for Itmaam-e-Hujjat (complition of proof). Those who do not convert after that, are liable to die and their militant branch TTP is given free hand to kill all those deniers.
Their madrassas provide bridge between militant and tableeghi branches. This is how they work in a systematic way. We need to break their system.
Tablighis (deobandis) and Saudi (wahabi/sulfi aka Alh-e-hadith/Jamat-e-Islami in Pakistan) are two school of thought.Systematically they will bulldoze whole Pakistan like Jannat ul Baqi. No sign of any other school of thought until we se 'khilafat' is established on Pakistan. We would keep wondering who did this.
You haven't seen footages of attcks on GHQ, naval bases, police stations and others. TTP goons are no less trained assassins. They are your own people. You better know how skillful they are.
Dealing with enemy within is easy as much as difficult. It causes maximum damage but can be defeated when you recognize them completely who they are. Public involvement is vital and decisive in this regard.
I think we start sms service. When you see someone escaping after committing murder or other crime you send his appearance, dress and vehicle detail to city code which in return instantly sends to all the citizens present in the city. This way you'll be following the pointed person automatically till LEAs take their position to apprehend him.
I don't know where you coming up with this "Itmaam-e-Hujjat" thing. I know dozen of lads from very affluent families in Islamabad who spend some time with tableeghi and later shaved their beard and returned back to party life asusuall. They still go pray Juma in same tabligi masjid but non of them are getting butchered.
Tablighis (deobandis) and Saudi (wahabi/sulfi aka Alh-e-hadith/Jamat-e-Islami in Pakistan) are two school of thought.
If you suggesting we ban/jail/kill anyone supporting tablighis than you are talking about wiping out 1/3 of Pakistani population, than you will suggest killing Ahle- Hadith cuz they also against peer faqir, now that another 1/3 of Pakistan population, now you will end up with Baravli only, few more stunts by Tahir-ul-Qdari and his Blasphemy killer followers, than you will demand to drop a nuke on Pakistan cuz no one left.
Thanks to Operation Silence otherwise Lal Masjid goons would've reached your lad's party places. Still advise them to be careful, Operation Zarb e Azb is not finished. Some goons are still at large.
Your lads are in first phase of tableeghi process, in and out. In the end they'll fully convert or killed in some market place.
There is a thread https://defence.pk/threads/in-pakistan-who-is-killing-whom.436096/ It says out of 60,000 people killed in Pakistan 0.6% are Ahmedi, lets say 0.4% are Christian, Hindu and Sikh. Who are 90%? They are Brelvi, majority is being persecuted. Still they won't pick up weapons. State of Pakistan will help them. If Deobandi don't live in peace they will be wiped out. They'll have to live in co existance.
But as far as i know Deobandi can't and won't live in co existance. They will continue their activities until taken care proactively.
So i am not asking to kill this ideology, they themselves demand it through their deeds.
You issue is that you are spilling hate towards certain sect while are being biased for your own.For me terrorists a terrorist regardless of his allegiance.Your assertion against Tablighis are totally false. We already had a debate about this last years. Bralvism and peeri faqri was once dominant sect in Pakistan, specially in villages, but due to the education and millions of Pakistani expats in M.E countries, majority of Pakistani either moving towards Deobandi or Salafi (Ahle-hadith). Example of this is quite evident in media and sports. 30 years ago, Pindi/ Islamabad whole cities use to be brailvi dominant, now whole neighbourhoods have moved on from peeri faqeeri.
Sound like another Yahoodi shazis to me.Tableeghi Jamaat has worked extensively. Now they are capitalising their work to give it a logical shape by gaining power and authoritative position. In which people do what they approve, if you disobey you will be tarnished.
How does 60,000 relate to Tabligi jamat. They existed since 1927 and are in 213 countries. I think you are just scared of other sects taking over your sects truf.Loss of 60,000 Pakistanis is enough to open one's eyes. If still you say we are against their ideology, its denial.
I can only laugh at this, go search youtube, " Pakistan Zuljana ne banaya Allah ne nahi ". You are not alone. World is full of jokers.Do you know Quaid e Azam's mother took M.A. Jinnah to the shrine of Hassan Peer for his Aqiqa ceremony. Jinnah himself went to Dargah of Ajmer Sharif. We made Pakistan. And we have full trust and confidence in Pakistan. Everyone will live here freely. Those who cause obstruction, will be perished.
How does 60,000 relate to Tabligi jamat. They existed since 1927 and are in 213 countries. I think you are just scared of other sects taking over your sects truf.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablighi_Jamaat
No one is targeting mehfil e milad gatherings. Some extremist did target shrine cuz they believe illiterate masses are being led into grave worshiping like sheeps by street Halwa/chanda molvis for quick money. TJ are doing exactly the opposite of extremist. They are going home to home to spread knowledge instead of blowing people up.As i said i had no problem with other sects. But they will attack our religious gatherings, mehfil e milad and shrines.
Tableeghi Jamaat has apparently no link with militancy but it is source and catalyst of all the movement. See how their system works.
TTP will show second third and fourth strike capability if its supply line is not cut. We will have to go one step further deep to stop their menace.