Falcon girls

[DaRk WaVe]

emo which Aircraft is this woman standing with?

Its F-22, F-35 has DSI

 

[dbc]

Women are not capable of flying fighter jets in war time. Besides its a highly expensive and sophisticated millitary hardware to be given to girls.

I think you mean Indian women, I believe they have a tendency to fall apart when they do not have their mother / father / husband around to tell them what to do.

 

[Naradmuni]

I think you mean Indian women, I believe they have a tendency to fall apart when they do not have their mother / father / husband around to tell them what to do.

Crashed with F 16

 

[dbc]

Crashed with F 16

are you suggesting men have never crashed a plane?

 

[Durrak]

awesome

 

[Naradmuni]

are you suggesting men have never crashed a plane?

Fighting real time war implies taking someones life. Women are believed to have profound caring instincts and what is required in real wars is the killer's instinct. I respect women but I also do know that women are meant to give life and not take one.

It would certainly be fancier to see women pilots woo-hoo the jets here and there, but I sincerely doubt their effectiviness in real war times.

As far as flying fighter jets is concerned, flying them is one thing and fighting with them is another thing. And we are not talking in particular of Indian or any other countries women here. It doesnt matter where they are from but there is universal infamy about their driving (and parking) skills, be it a car or may be a fighter jet.

 

[TOPGUN]

Wow some good looking chichs hehe

 

[dbc]

Fighting real time war implies taking someones life. Women are believed to have profound caring instincts and what is required in real wars is the killer's instinct. I respect women but I also do know that women are meant to give life and not take one.

It would certainly be fancier to see women pilots woo-hoo the jets here and there, but I sincerely doubt their effectiviness in real war times.

As far as flying fighter jets is concerned, flying them is one thing and fighting with them is another thing. And we are not talking in particular of Indian or any other countries women here. It doesnt matter where they are from but there is universal infamy about their driving (and parking) skills, be it a car or a may be a fighter jet.

Women are good for more than a few "woo-hoo's", in the 40's the Nachthexen's terrified the mighty German Luftwaffe flying 23,000 sorties earning 23 "Hero of Soviet Union" medals the highest distinction awarded in service of mother Russia. Women like Marina Raskova flew crop dusters against the more sophisticated Luftwaffe fighters like the Focke-Wulf and Messerschmitt. Women Aviators like Raskova and Natalya Meklin were instrumental in the defense of Stalingrad and if you believe women are not capable of killing visit the nearest women's prison for a truly enlightening experience.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Fighting real time war implies taking someones life. Women are believed to have profound caring instincts and what is required in real wars is the killer's instinct. I respect women but I also do know that women are meant to give life and not take one.

It would certainly be fancier to see women pilots woo-hoo the jets here and there, but I sincerely doubt their effectiviness in real war times.

You talking to Madam without any sense???
Tell me why you 'doubt' their effectiveness ???

U need to read post # 23 & 24 again....

As far as flying fighter jets is concerned, flying them is one thing and fighting with them is another thing. And we are not talking in particular of Indian or any other countries women here. It doesnt matter where they are from but there is universal infamy about their driving (and parking) skills, be it a car or a may be a fighter jet.

so a few videos with some funny clips means that women have 'universal infamy' about driving

 

[DaRk WaVe]

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On June 22, 1941, Hitler's Wehrmacht invaded the Soviet Union, and Operation Barbarossa was under way.

By November, the German army was just 19 miles from Moscow. Leningrad was under siege, three million Russians had been taken prisoner, a large part of the Red Army was wiped out and the air force was grounded. The situation looked hopeless.

In the summer of 1941, Marina Raskova, a record-breaking aviatrix, organized the 588th night bomber squadron - composed entirely of women, from the mechanics to the navigators, pilot and officers.

Most of them were around 20 years old. The 588th began training in Engels, a small town north of Stalingrad. In a few months, the women were taught what it takes most people four years to learn.

One June 8, 1942, three planes took off on the first mission. The target: the headquarters of a German division. The raid was successful, but one aircraft was lost. The 588th fought non-stop for months, flying 15 to 18 missions a night. "It was a miracle we didn't lose more aircraft", recalls Nadia Popova. "Our planes were the slowest in the air force. They often came back riddled with bullets, but they kept flying."

On August 2, 1942, her plane crashed in the Caucasus. She and her navigator were found alive a few days later. The winter of 1942 was brutal, with the temperature plummeting to -54o F during the battle of Stalingrad. Parts of the aircraft were so cold that they ripped the skin off of anyone who touched them. By January 1943, the women of the 588th were worn out. Sleepless nights, constant stress, the loss of friends and sexual harassment from male colleagues took their toll. Women in the 588th flew up to 500 night raids!
From the battle of Stalingrad to the fall of Berlin, the regiment made 24,000 combat flights and dropped 23,000 tons of bombs. It was awarded the Soviet Union's highest collective military honor. Years after the war, Nadia Popova said, "At night sometimes, I look up into the dark sky, close my eyes and picture myself as a girl at the controls of my bomber and I think, 'Nadia, how on earth did you do it?"

Raskova a famous Soviet navigator who set many records during the 1930s. She and two others were the first women to be awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union medal in 1938 when they completed a dangerous Moscow to Komsomolsk-on-Amur (in the Russian Far East) flight in the 2-engined plane "Rodina", that broke the international women's distance record.

Her influence and the military need for more human resources made it possible for her to be able to persuade Stalin to allow her to organize three regiments of women flyers. Already a folk heroine, and a Major in the Soviet Air Force by 1941, Raskova was the logical choice to recruit, interview, and oversee the training of the women aviators, which she did magnificently. Being a Hero of the Soviet Union, she gave great inspiration to her trainees and passed her vast aviation experience to this new generation of Soviet female flyers.

 

[Barrett]

 

[Naradmuni]

You talking to Madam without any sense???
Tell me why you 'doubt' their effectiveness ???

You have every right to disagree as I have every right to put up my point of opinion. I would expect you to respectfully disagree and refrian from passing jugemental comments, whether it makes sense to you (or your Madam) or not. And stop making rude remarks.

Even the IAF believes that women are not psychologically fit for combat ops. Theres nothing new that you got to hear from me.

Appart from the skills and ability issue, I need not elaborate what would be fate of female prisoners, in a hostile enemy territory and that too in war times. And then again its my personal opinion and I care least if it (or does not) makes sense to you.

I can understand your bias to the cause of gender equality but war and peace situation is altogether different.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

You have every right to disagree as I have every right to put up my point of opinion. I would expect you to respectfully disagree and refrian from passing jugemental comments, whether it makes sense to you (or your Madam) or not. And stop making rude remarks.

Judgmental Remarks, Oh please u can't talk about Judgmental remarks, its you who is passing Judgmental remarks

I think its a fancy publicity parade. Women are not capable of flying fighter jets in war time. Besides its a highly expensive and sophisticated millitary hardware to be given to girls. I remember a documentary on Nat Geo about US AF. "Being one of the best, is just not enough. You need to be the best to fly that expensive machine which is more than the GDP of a small country", it said.

My response was Simple & based on historical Facts, I don't think there is anything judgmental about it, If you have some sort of 'complexes' then its not my problem

Even the IAF believes that women are not psychologically fit for combat ops. Theres nothing new that you got to hear from me.

so what 'Death By Chocolate' said was right i.e.

I think you mean Indian women, I believe they have a tendency to fall apart when they do not have their mother / father / husband around to tell them what to do.

I can understand your bias to the cause of gender equality but war and peace situation is altogether different.

Women have proven their mettle in battle Field, well it be land or Air...
There are hundreds of Examples
U think women getting 'hero of soviet union', is not enough...

 

[Naradmuni]

Women have proven their mettle in battle Field, well it be land or Air...
There are hundreds of Examples

Usual feminist rant plus Extreme disregard to practical considerations.
Thats all I can conclude.


This is what my AF says and I have every reasons to stick to their wisdom.

"Moreover, with all the respect women get in Indian culture, the dominant feeling as things stand now is that they should not be exposed to direct or close combat situations, where there is also the possibility of them being taken PoWs (prisoners of war). Even the Israelis do not allow their women fighter pilots in direct conflict roles"

Originally Posted by Death.By.Chocolate
I think you mean Indian women, I believe they have a tendency to fall apart when they do not have their mother / father / husband around to tell them what to do.

Forget India. Even in a country like israel where each and every graduate be it man or woman is a millitary trained individual, there must be some meaningful considerations that disallow women from such responsibilities.

 

[booo]

Even the IAF believes that women are not psychologically fit for combat ops. Theres nothing new that you got to hear from me.

IAF never said that they were not combat capable... They said the ROI was less because they could not afford to send them on long leaves which the IAF cannot afford.

heck, even my client and manager told me not to recruit unmarried females since they were highly likely to marry a NRI software engineer and leave the company


may be you should watch this video to understand the women power.