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Osama Bin Laden and September 11
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Wednesday, 28 May 2008 02:34
Not many people know that, after September 11, 2001,
--------------------- Osama bin Laden issued a statement on tape that he had nothing to do with the attacks on America and that such actions were against the teachings of Islam. Americans were prevented from accessing this information because we were told that Osama could possibly have an embedded "secret code" in the tape that would alert other terrorists cells to "activate" and target other American cities.
Here is the transcript of what you were not allowed to hear from Osama bin Laden's own mouth
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I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States."
Later, another video tape miraculously appeared to validate his guilt in the attacks. T
he video tape, showing a man who was allegedly Osama bin Laden discussing and bragging about his role in the 9-11 attacks, was shown on American television along with Arabic-English translations of the conversations. Did you know that this tape has since been recognized as
a fake? Not many news media reported this.
The "Osama" in the tape is actually a known Egyptian militant who is not as tall and much too heavy to be Osama. I'll just bet you didn't know that tape was a fake! It wasn't reported on CNN.
Now we have had another audio tape allegedly from Osama. We were told that it is "proof" that he committed the 9-11 attacks. The "Osama" voice is apparently saying that the so-called 10th hijacker who was charged in American courts is actually innocent, but the real purpose of the tape is to acknowledge Osama's admission of ordering the 9-11 attacks. Well, hold on because now it appears that this tape is also fake. It's yet another Bush disinformation camapign to make people angry at Islamics and Arabs and to continue the blame game and justify the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as a prelude to yet another miserable war in Iran.
The latest audio tape attributed to Osama bin Laden appears to be one more installment in a succession of
evidence fabricated by the US government to deceive the American people, according to Scholars for 9/11 Truth.
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This tape is only the latest in a series of fabrications intended to mislead the American people," said James H. Fetzer, the society's founder. "The closer we get to revealing the truth about 9/11, the more furiously the government fights to conceal it!" He said members of Scholars and other
experts had detected evidence of fakery.
In this new recording, a voice attributed to Osama bin Laden asserts that Zacarias Moussaoui was not involved in 9/11, which he knew to be the case because he had personally assigned the 19 hijackers involved in those events. The Osama of this tape thereby implicitly confesses his responsibility for orchestrating the attacks. However, in a tape released on December 27, 2001, the authenticity of which is not in doubt, Osama denied having had anything to do with 9/11. "
Moreover," Fetzer added, "some of the 19 hijackers he 'personally assigned' have turned up alive and well."
To be sure, this new tape is not the first one in which bin Laden appears to take responsibility for the attacks. As David Ray Griffin, a prominent member of Scholars, points out,
"The Osama on the video tape that appeared on December 13, 2001, confessed to planning the 9/11 attacks. But he is far darker and much heavier than the real Osama bin Laden. People can see the difference by looking up 'The Fake bin Laden Video Tape' on Google."
Griffin's point is supported by a work-in-progress by members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which appears on its web site under the heading, "9/11: Have we been lied to?" It offers evidence of fakery in some of the videos based upon various physical properties of the figures that are presumed to be Osama, pointing out that there are differences in the ears, cheeks, eyebrows, length of the nose and shape of the nostrils.
"The use of computer analysis can 'fine tune' these questions of facial characteristics," Fetzer said, "but the gross differences already show they are not the same."
Inconsistencies
"Another problem with the video of December 13, 2001," Griffin pointed out, "was that its stocky bin Laden praised two of the alleged hijackers, Wail M. Al-Shehri and Salem al-Hazmi, by name, and yet both the London Telegraph and the Saudi embassy reported several days after 9/11 that al-Hazmi was still alive and working in Saudi Arabia. Given the fact that the earlier video in which Osama confessed was clearly a fake, we should be suspicious of this latest apparent confession."
A professor at Duke, Bruce Lawrence, who has published Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama bin Laden, expressed profound skepticism about a tape that was released January 17, 2006, in a report that appeared two days later. "There's nothing in this from the Koran," Lawrence said. "He's, by his own standards, a faithful Muslim who quotes scripture in defense of his actions. There's no quotation from the Koran in the excerpts we got, no reference to specific events, no reference to past atrocities." Lawrence also observed the tape ran only 10 minutes, whereas the shortest previous tape, at 18 minutes, was nearly twice as long.
Fetzer noted that many of the same anomalous properties are found in the latest tape. "Compared to Osama's past performances," he observed, "this message is too short, too direct, and full of falsehoods. It was even described on CBS News by Bob Schieffer as 'almost American'." A translation of the text of the tape has also been released by IntelCenter, a private company that does contract work for the US government. "I suppose I would be accused of being a 'conspiracy theorist' to suggest there is any connection," Fetzer added.
Authentic Voice/Fake Content
Informed that Reuters news agency has reported confirmation that the voice on the tape is indeed that of Osama bin Laden, Fetzer replied, "The fact that the voice is his does not prove that the tape is authentic. We have had phony tapes before using voices that were authentic. Mark Bingham, a passenger on Flight 93, is supposed to have called his mother and said, 'Hi, Mom, this is Mark Bingham!' His mother confirmed it was his voice, but does anyone seriously believe that Mark Bingham would have used his last name in identifying himself to his mother?"
Griffin agreed, adding, "Back in 1999, William Arkin published an article entitled, 'When Seeing and Hearing isn't Believing' (which can also be accessed on Google). Describing the new technology of 'voice morphing' (or 'voice synthesizing'), Arkin explained that, if audio technicians have a recording of your voice, then they can create a tape in which your voiceyour authentic voice!says anything they wish."
In a press release on April 22, 2006, the Scholars observed that a tape played at the trail of Zacarias Moussaoui included discussion among the passengers about using a drink cart to break down the cabin door alleged to have been picked up on a cockpit voice recorder, which does not record conversations in the passenger cabin. "This is not the first and certainly will not be the last time that the American government plays the American people for suckers," Fetzer said.
"We have just acquired new evidence that the Pentagon video tapes were processed and manipulated in an apparent effort to distort or conceal what happened there on 9/11," Fetzer observed. "Apparently, whenever the government feels the need to bolster the official myth about 9/11, it simply fabricates a new tape! Anybody who wants to keep score should visit our web site."
Scholars for 9/11 Truth is a non-partisan society of experts and scholars dedicated to exposing falsehoods and establishing truths about the events of 9/11. It maintains a web site at st911.org, where it archives its studies, documents, records and evidence.
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Osama Bin Laden and September 11 | Pakistan Daily
Debate Points...
Point A:
"The use of computer analysis can 'fine tune' these questions of facial characteristics," Fetzer said, "but the gross differences already show they are not the same."
Now here is what
Keys said:
A1Kaid: Even if you hold no doubt that the physical features are not much different from the real Osama Bin Laden, there is "The use of computer analysis can 'fine tune' these questions of facial characteristics". Point being there is state-of-the-art technology that is so super-sensitive it can detect and distinguish between the dialect of the real OBL and the fake OBL, using voice analysis, voice print and identification...Something some
------------- fail to understand.]
Key's Said: "the list is endless but the real world does not interest patent idiots who wanna believe SO BAD!"
A1Kaid: "the real world" The "real world"!!! You
--------, what you consider the "real world" is a world that does not think for itself, a world immersed in the western media, brainwashed and misguided, stupid and ignorant, and overall misled, these ingredients lead to people like
-----...Generally speaking of course there are exceptions...
Point B
A1Kaid: I want everyone reading to understand what this
----- just said, he thinks finding the truth to what really happened on 9/11 or someone who questions what his or her Government or TV media has told him or her about 9/11 is "
chasing bullshit"...This mind of reference deducts a lot of credibility from any argument you have posed so far.]
Point C
A1Kaid:See Keys, what the little cognizant in
------ skull fails to understand and put together is, I am not the first nor last to point out inconsistencies and "fakery" or fabrication in these videos. People with technical and media expertise and background have analyzed many of these videos, they have put these videos in computer programs and have studied the layers, the natural and artificial shadows, the natural and computer generated voice pitch and audio, natural and computer generated colors...Of course
--------- will always fail to understand this, as their
------- cannot comprehend such information.
So it's not about me as you point out being a "genius"...
Point C2
Trash talking
------- you are aye...Disrespectful
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Well done though I am sure you have defeated the CIA all by yourself! they must be terrified of your analytical skills
No no no, see here is Keys making the same
------- mistake again "your analytical skills" As I have previously pointed out people with greater expertise and capacity than I have researched this extensively and have casted great doubt and in many cases concluded the tapes to be fakes...
Final thing I want to say to you Keys...
I have noticed you have a long history of being a internet tough-guy, and you have been very disrespectful and condescending to our fellow Forum members. You have harassed quite a few as well. Just know
------- if you said the same things you say to people here to people in Pakistan, well let's just say you would have gotten your
---------.
Quite frankly it's this disrespectful attitude of yours is the reason why even some of your own fellow soldiers and airmen
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P.S Mods please excuse me of any penalty I may have committed in making this post, I really wanted to say this now. Thank you
Regards, A1Kaid
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rankly this is utter tripe. If you look at different pictures from different points in different people lives then they will look different. Why? simple..... people have accidents, gain and lose weight get a tan from being out the sun or become paler after illnesses. the list is endless but the real world does not interest patent idiots who wanna believe SO BAD!
......somehow I doubt it....frankly you are an idiot as your previous posts have proven....I am sure some uneducated fools will love you though so crack on!
here again A1KAiD is making the classic mistake of using only the data that suits him...I can post SOOOOOO many counter rebuttals from people with MUCH more experience and academic relevance.......Its funny but I would recommend people have a look at the people who A1kaid is using as his "proof" If the US president can't even cover up things like watergate then how could they pull this off? 
