Fake News: Israeli Business Jet in Islamabad.

[YeBeWarned]

I don't how i feel about him been in Pakistan, he is insane I will wait for a rather sane PM of Israel first , If that is even possible .

 

[Imran Khan]

If both sides wanted to make a secret contact, Turkey is the best place to meet up. Why would in this world an Isreali PM visit Pakistan?

Its good to have direct contact we already have relations with israel via turkey .

 

[Hareeb]

Its good to have direct contact we already have relations with israel via turkey .

It dates long back to Gen Musharraf's era. No concrete efforts are made by then. Well, personally I would like to have formal relations with Isreal. Pakistan can learn much from Isreal in agriculture and biotech field along IT.

 

[H!TchHiker]

Yea but I am confused abt this one:


Going to ISB?

This is serious...10 hours stay .......

 

[313ghazi]

I would rather Allah in my corner than Israel.

 

[war&peace]

Reality check 101. If you could demostrate to me a correlation between Pakistan's allies or well wishers and religion you could convince me but let me assure you simple secular reasons outweigh religion in international relations. Just because KSA helped does not by per se mean the reasons were driven ummah love - could those reasons be secular or simple geoplitics of self interest? A quick scan of Pakistan's international relations betrays and lucidly exposes that religion is not the primary driver in geopolitics. I list three interesting examples why you to muse over and draw your inferances from -

Athiest China - probably the greatest geopolitical friend of Pakistan
Islamic Afghanistan - probably the greatest geopolitical hostility to Pakistan
Secular Turkey - probably the most consistent geopolitical friend of Pakistan

You can twist and try to inundate it with lingo but you miserably failed in giving a straightforward answer. In 1965 war, Indonesia lent Pakistan the submarine, now tell me what secular relations Pakistan had with Indonesia 5000+ km away with non-existent trade between the two or any other cultural similarities other than religion? @Indos

 

[Indos]

You can twist and try to inundate it with lingo but you miserably failed in giving a straightforward answer. In 1965 war, Indonesia lent Pakistan the submarine, now tell me what secular relations Pakistan had with Indonesia 5000+ km away with non-existent trade between the two or any other cultural similarities other than religion? @Indos

2 submarine, KRI Nagaransang and KRI Bramastra, I think the submarine crew are still Indonesian since Pakistan at that time didnt have experience in driving submarine.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indonesia-and-pakistan-historic-relations.414673/

 

[jamal18]

You can twist and try to inundate it with lingo but you miserably failed in giving a straightforward answer. In 1965 war, Indonesia lent Pakistan the submarine, now tell me what secular relations Pakistan had with Indonesia 5000+ km away with non-existent trade between the two or any other cultural similarities other than religion? @Indos

Read Asghar Khan's book on the 1965 war. The Indonesians gave missile patrol boats, even though they were under threat from the powerful UK navy at the time. Suharto (Sukarno?) looked at the map and said ' Maybe we can invade the Indian Andaman islands for you?', Asghar was shocked and passed on that one. He was genuinely overwhelmed by the level of support.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

You can twist and try to inundate it with lingo but

That applies to you as well. Sorry, my friend you cannot peddle something that lacks even a modicum of logic. I can wreck your argumant like a house of cards. The greatest geopolitic friend of Pakistan is Athiest China. Conversely the greatest hostility to Pakistan comes from Islamic Afghanistan. Try find some 'religious' logic to that if you can.

And you overlook one poxy submarine by the fact that in simple dollar terms USA gave us dozens of Sabres, hundreds if not thousands of tanks/APC's and stacked out most of the navy. You want to dream the ummah dream please continue .....

 

[Yankee-stani]

That applies to you as well. Sorry, my friend you cannot peddle something that lacks even a modicum of logic. I can wreck your argumant like a house of cards. The greatest geopolitic friend of Pakistan is Athiest China. Conversely the greatest hostility to Pakistan comes from Islamic Afghanistan. Try find some 'religious' logic to that if you can.

And you overlook one poxy submarine by the fact that in simple dollar terms USA gave us dozens of Sabres, hundreds if not thousands of tanks/APC's and stacked out most of the navy. You want to dream the ummah dream please continue .....

I say stay out of the Middle East for Pakistan except for Trade and on Israel no relations at all.Afghanistan has been hostillty because Afghans dont even think Pakistan exists,Indonesia and Turkey might be next countries that are friends with Pakistan

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1055387120662208512

Who cares?. What has Israel or the Jews ever done to Pakistan? NOTHING So it's NO big deal. Let's move on.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I say stay out of the Middle East for Pakistan except for Trade and on Israel no relations at all.Afghanistan has been hostillty because Afghans dont even think Pakistan exists,Indonesia and Turkey might be next countries that are friends with Pakistan

If you have read my posts in regards to Uighur Muslims I have maintained a considered ambiguity or even gone so far as to deny it. I chose to actually redact my thoughts for reasons of geopolitics and self interest. In doing so I actually go against my personal religious sentiments. The truth is and I will for purposes of this thread speak my mind.

The sad truth is China is engaged in wholesale persecution of if not genocide of the Uighur Muslims. It is in fact forcing the Uighurs to give up Islam and adopt a athiest posture like mainstream China. In doing so it has banned free religious gatherings, placed control on mosques to the point where Beijing even sets the itemlist of the preacher at state controlled mosques. Uighur shops are forced to open on fridays at prayer times and ramadhan. Pork must be on sale in Uighur shops. In short we have a evil, destructive pogram that is close to matching what the Nazis diod to Jews in WW2. Chinese Turkestan is being erased of it's Turkic Muslim heritage. Even names like Kasghar, Khotan have been changed. That is why we have had demonstrations in Gilgit and Islamabad by the refugee Uighur community or those who are married to Pakistani's.

Where am I going with this? If you ummah chumma lovers are so big on it then be honest and show it by showing your outrage right on Pakistan';s borders in China. Will you do that? Will you openly condemn China for what she is doing to Uighurs?If you do that then you will at least show some consistency in your ummah love and outrage over Palestinian Muslims.

And I chose to overlook the Chinese pogram of the Uighur Muslms for reasons of geopolitical interests of Pakistan. At least I show consistency in my hypocracy.


@xenon54 @M.R.9

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I just feel sorry , That all midd east countries leader has been sold. What the HELL is Israel ? In 1075 , Just for power Egyptian Air force boomd to the infantry division. Shame on them.

Never knew fighter jets existed in 1075.......

 

[Yankee-stani]

If you have read my posts in regards to Uighur Muslims I have maintained a considered ambiguity or even gone so far as to deny it. I chose to actually redact my thoughts for reasons of geopolitics and self interest. In doing so I actually go against my personal religious sentiments. The truth is and I will for purposes of this thread speak my mind.

The sad truth is China is engaged in wholesale persecution of if not genocide of the Uighur Muslims. It is in fact forcing the Uighurs to give up Islam and adopt a athiest posture like mainstream China. In doing so it has banned free religious gatherings, placed control on mosques to the point where Beijing even sets the itemlist of the preacher at state controlled mosques. Uighur shops are forced to open on fridays at prayer times and ramadhan. Pork must be on sale in Uighur shops. In short we have a evil, destructive pogram that is close to matching what the Nazis diod to Jews in WW2. Chinese Turkestan is being erased of it's Turkic Muslim heritage. Even names like Kasghar, Khotan have been changed. That is why we have had demonstrations in Gilgit and Islamabad by the refugee Uighur community or those who are married to Pakistani's.

Where am I going with this? If you ummah chumma lovers are so big on it then be honest and show it by showing your outrage right on Pakistan';s borders in China. Will you do that? Will you openly condemn China for what she is doing to Uighurs?If you do that then you will at least show some consistency in your ummah love and outrage over Palestinian Muslims.

And I chose to overlook the Chinese pogram of the Uighur Muslms for reasons of geopolitical interests of Pakistan. At least I show consistency in my hypocracy.


@xenon54 @M.R.9

Are you trying to bait

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

If it was in my power I woulfd invite me to Islamabad and pull the rug under the billion Gangoo's in India. Sooner or later all Arab countries including Saudia will have full on relationships [they already do under a thin veil] and Pakistan will find itself last to do so and thus lose out on using this opportunity. Insrtead of sacrificing it on alter of mislaid loyalty to a non existent ummah.

The rabid uneducated mullah and his supporters would eat you alive... even it meant fuking themselves first.

I would rather Allah in my corner than Israel.

I respect your opinion...

And yes recognising israel would maybe help Pakistan.. but not in the eyes of God.

Not because they are jewish but because they are opressors of palestinians who themselves in the past have betrayed Pakistan on IOK Issue!