Faith healer grilled in Zainab case commits suicide

[war&peace]

Yaar, in this case, Dr. Shahid has presented different facts from the beginning. First he claimed that the culprit had been arrested who was a close relative.. (he probably saw the child walking comfortably and thought to make this story). Later he said something else..

I am just not ready to believe Dr. Shahid.. I know someone personally about whom Dr. Shahid has uttered shit that his career has been finished.. And believe me, there was not a single truth came out from Dr. Shahid..

Since I know the guy personally, I now don't believe Dr. Shahid anymore..

I never said that Dr SM cannot be wrong. He is a human being and to err is human. He can be fed wrong info and he can pass that on TV. It was unfortunate what you mentioned but I believe that under current situation he is telling the truth.

 

[PakSword]

Abu hurairah radi allahu anhu se rivayat hai ki Rasoollallah sallallahu alaihi wasallam ne farmaya aadmi ke jhoota hone ke liye ye baat kaafi hai ki wo jo bhi baate sune usko (bina tasdeeq) aage bayan kar de

Sahih Muslim, Vol 1, Hadith 7

I never said that Dr SM cannot be wrong. He is a human being and to err is human. He can be fed wrong info and he can pass that on TV. It was unfortunate what you mentioned but I believe that under current situation he is telling the truth.

Abu hurairah radi allahu anhu se rivayat hai ki Rasoollallah sallallahu alaihi wasallam ne farmaya aadmi ke jhoota hone ke liye ye baat kaafi hai ki wo jo bhi baate sune usko (bina tasdeeq) aage bayan kar de

Sahih Muslim, Vol 1, Hadith 7

 

[Verve]

Sir, please read his column written in 2007.. he sensationalized the story too much.. later he couldn't prove a single bit of what he wrote in that article.. even the cellular network was blocked..

I don't know why PA didn't take any action against him..

It was the Moambatti mafia that developed the public census for an ill advised operation (the way it was carried out) and then started bashing the PA for it.

Hamid Mir is roaming free after accusing ISI chief for his attempted assassination, what's the PA done? Dawn, Jang group etc? What has the PA done? Your opinion on this matter matches that of Hamid Mir and those of the mombatti mafia, now what to say on that then?

 

[Ocean]

He claims to cure people of their depression and ailments as stated by you in above post and yet he himself couldnt really do anything for himself.

Haha.. we all know what kind of faith healers are they.. They can't do shit about anything.. that's why they live in such miserable circumstances..

30 days time period hai uskay baad ya doran hee report details pata chal jain gee. In the meantime whats disgusting is cjp not taking notice of 300 qasur kids where thugs are still threatening victims n relatives.

It was the Moambatti mafia that developed the public census for an ill advised operation (the way it was carried out) and then started bashing the PA for it.

Hamid Mir is roaming free after accusing ISI chief for his attempted assassination, what's the PA done? Dawn, Jang group etc? What has the PA done? Your opinion on the forum matches that of Hamid Mir and those of the mombatti mafia, now what to say on that then?

Yeh baat tau may nay bhi parhi thee kay asma jahangi, hamid mir co ki waja say lal masjid op backfired n negative sentiments grew. Maybe shahid irresponsible reporting also caused damage but real effects were incurred by the tabqa u called moambatti mafia. I am speaking from neutral point of view. May nay aik ex army officer ko bhi asma n co ko hee blame kartay dekha tha.

 

[PakSword]

It was the Moambatti mafia that developed the public census for an ill advised operation (the way it was carried out) and then started bashing the PA for it.

Hamid Mir is roaming free after accusing ISI chief for his attempted assassination, what's the PA done? Dawn, Jang group etc? What has the PA done? Your opinion on the forum matches that of Hamid Mir and those of the mombatti mafia, now what to say on that then?

Now I think we are acting like Nawaz supporters.. agar aik ne ghalat kaam kia hai tou hum bhi karaingay..

When did I say that Hamid Mir is a trustworthy guy?

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

US constitution has a weird law that says culprits of one case cannot be investigated for another case. I dnt know if Pakistan has any such law that might hold CJ back??

30 days time period hai uskay baad ya doran hee report details pata chal jain gee. In the meantime whats disgusting is cjp not taking notice of 300 qasur kids where thugs are still threatening victims n relatives.


Yeh baat tau may nay bhi parhi thee kay asma jahangi, hamid mir co ki waja say lal masjid op backfired n negative sentiments grew. Maybe shahid irresponsible reporting also caused damage but real effects were incurred by the tabqa u called moambatti mafia. I am speaking from neutral point of view. May nay aik ex army officer ko bhi asma n co ko hee blame kartay dekha tha.

 

[Ocean]

US constitution has a weird law that says culprits of one case cannot be investigated for another case. I dnt know if Pakistan has any such law that might hold CJ back??

Nahi yeh tau nahi pata , i hope not. I think such action will only apply when culprits have been found out to be linked. U know for that investigations must proceed.

Ab pata nahi its confusing. Ooper say rana ullahs statements give the feel he is feeling heat under him

This thread https://defence.pk/pdf/posts/10210919/

 

[Verve]

Now I think we are acting like Nawaz supporters.. agar aik ne ghalat kaam kia hai tou hum bhi karaingay..

When did I say that Hamid Mir is a trustworthy guy?

You did not but you are attacking Dr with what they are saying and writing. You mentioned lal masjid but have you forgotten what the moambatti mafia did back then, whilst laying the blame of attacks on PA on Dr's head over one news / article!

And PA did ban Dr ... for breaking the news of the NRO!

 

[PakSword]

You did not but you are attacking Dr with what they are saying and writing. You mentioned lal masjid but have you forgotten what the moambatti mafia did back then, whilst laying the blame of attacks on PA on Dr's head over one news / article!

Mombatti mafia is the worst.. but Dr. Shahid is not a "doodh se dhulay"..

Have you asked this question why he said in the initial programs that the culprit is a close relative of Zainab and that the once Zainab's parents will find out about him, they will be shocked?

Come on.. I know he is your favorite anchor but it doesn't mean that you start justifying him by saying that he did that, but don't criticize him because XYZ also did exactly the same..

And PA did ban Dr ... for breaking the news of the NRO!

Yaar yeh NRO ki khabar hi aaj tak le kar bethay huay hain.. aik do aur khabrain hain inn ke paas jis ka taana yeh apnay har program main detey hain..

Aur mujhay kia bata rahay hain verve bhai? Mera qareebi jaannay wala inn ki jhooti reporting ka shikaar hua hai..

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I suggest everyone to read this column...

 

[Verve]

Mombatti mafia is the worst.. but Dr. Shahid is not a "doodh se dhulay"..

Have you asked this question why he said in the initial programs that the culprit is a close relative of Zainab and that the once Zainab's parents will find out about him, they will be shocked?

Come on.. I know he is your favorite anchor but it doesn't mean that you start justifying him by saying that he did that, but don't criticize him because XYZ also did exactly the same..



Yaar yeh NRO ki khabar hi aaj tak le kar bethay huay hain.. aik do aur khabrain hain inn ke paas jis ka taana yeh apnay har program main detey hain..

Aur mujhay kia bata rahay hain verve bhai? Mera qareebi jaannay wala inn ki jhooti reporting ka shikaar hua hai..

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I suggest everyone to read this column...

No one is doodh ka dhula ... but Dr is right most of the times. Look at the media campaign against him, along with the notices issued by PEMRA under last chairman AA.

And NRO was the worst thing to happen to Pakistan after Bhutto and Nawaz! And you are stuck on mere one newspaper article by him!

Look at the bigger picture ... no one else managed or even bothered to force the hand of the SC to open a JIT on this heinous crime, he pulled it off and is still sticking to the information he has!!! He could have just said what he said without appealing to CJP and that would have been that, but ask yourself 'why did he appeal to CJP'?! Now sit and wait for what the JIT concludes.

Tell me .. are you in favour of the SC formed JIT?

 

[django]

@war&peace @Samlee @django
Now people who had supposedly link with Kasur children murders started to die under mysterious circumstances.

This was to be expected, not the least bit surprised, influential folk can hire assassins with excellent cleaning skills.Kudos Rattay Sahib

 

[Maarkhoor]

This was to be expected, not the least bit surprised, influential folk can hire assassins with excellent cleaning skills.Kudos Rattay Sahib

There are rumors that a small time politician Nazim level was involved and behind first Kasur scandal and he is probably a relative or friend with some high level politician Initially when police wants to investigate him he went to his politician friend or relative how unknowingly helped him he thinks it was a small case but when media highlighted it he terrified since initially he force police not to involve him so this politician contact his party and they advised him now we have to save him otherwise media will put blame on full party.
I don't know if it is correct or not but quite plausible story. Just to save one MNA who helped sick psycho unknowingly now they are trying to cover up more heinous crimes.

 

[I.R.A]

wajah to allah ki hi daanat hai...per waqt aan chuka tha... or waqt ka tayyun sirf khuda karta hai

firoun pe baat karne se pehle aap ye bataen...firoun kay liye musa aya tha ya israelites kay liye? masla ye hai kay moosvi shariyat me gentiles ki gunjaish nahi.... pehle iska tayyun hona chaiye

Kya Moosa nay Firoun ko dawat nai di thi? Kya Moosa nay Firoun k pass jany say phelay dua nai mangi thi kay mayra seena khol day, mayri zuban ko rawaa aur mayray kam ko asan kar day? Maqsood Khali Firoun ki aitat nai tha ..... maqsood Firoun k zariay tamam log jo us kay qaboo may that un ko azadi dilana tha un ko rahe haq pay lana tha ...... Bani Israel to pissay huay thay ...... un ko to Moosa ki bat manani he thi ....... asal imtehan to phelay Moosa ka tha, itna kara kay Moosa ko apna Naib aur madadgar mangna para Khuda say, phir firoun ka aur phir Bani Israel ka ....... siway Moosa, Haroon aur unh k hawario kay kaun pass hua?

Kya Moosa ki he sunnat pay Rasool E Arabi Hazrat Syedna Mustafa S.A.W nay apnay dor kay badshaho ko khatoot nai likhay thay? Maqsad khali Badshaho ki aitat nai tha .... balkay un kay zariay pissi hui maghloob insaniat ko azadi dilana thi.

Bani Israel jo gar sahi shahriat pay qaim rehtay to Essa kay anay ka jawaz banta? Quran jab bhi in ko Mukhatib karta hy to un ko hawala daita hy kay tum to jantay ho, aisa pechantay ho jaisay apnay baitoo ko, yeh tumhari kitab may mojood hy par phir b tum inkari ho. Shahriat sirf haq ki hoti hy ...... jhoot aur zulm ki nai. Aur Haq ajj kay dor may sirf Quran hy ..... baki sab peer murshid "Haman" hain chahay wo isani roop may ho chahay Tabri ki kissi ijad karda kitab main. Tab to aik Firoun tha jiss nay insaniat ko apnay qaboo kia hua tha .... ajj na janay kitnay Firoun hain jo Insan ko azad nai dekh saktay.

 

[El Sidd]

Kya Moosa nay Firoun ko dawat nai di thi? Kya Moosa nay Firoun k pass jany say phelay dua nai mangi thi kay mayra seena khol day, mayri zuban ko rawaa aur mayray kam ko asan kar day? Maqsood Khali Firoun ki aitat nai tha ..... maqsood Firoun k zariay tamam log jo us kay qaboo may that un ko azadi dilana tha un ko rahe haq pay lana tha ...... Bani Israel to pissay huay thay ...... un ko to Moosa ki bat manani he thi ....... asal imtehan to phelay Moosa ka tha, itna kara kay Moosa ko apna Naib aur madadgar mangna para Khuda say, phir firoun ka aur phir Bani Israel ka ....... siway Moosa, Haroon aur unh k hawario kay kaun pass hua?

Kya Moosa ki he sunnat pay Rasool E Arabi Hazrat Syedna Mustafa S.A.W nay apnay dor kay badshaho ko khatoot nai likhay thay? Maqsad khali Badshaho ki aitat nai tha .... balkay un kay zariay pissi hui maghloob insaniat ko azadi dilana thi.

Bani Israel jo gar sahi shahriat pay qaim rehtay to Essa kay anay ka jawaz banta? Quran jab bhi in ko Mukhatib karta hy to un ko hawala daita hy kay tum to jantay ho, aisa pechantay ho jaisay apnay baitoo ko, yeh tumhari kitab may mojood hy par phir b tum inkari ho. Shahriat sirf haq ki hoti hy ...... jhoot aur zulm ki nai. Aur Haq ajj kay dor may sirf Quran hy ..... baki sab peer murshid "Haman" hain chahay wo isani roop may ho chahay Tabri ki kissi ijad karda kitab main. Tab to aik Firoun tha jiss nay insaniat ko apnay qaboo kia hua tha .... ajj na janay kitnay Firoun hain jo Insan ko azad nai dekh saktay.

Moses was sent upon the people of Israel and not upon the gentiles. All Moses did was that the Pharoah should LET HIS PEOPLE GO.

The difference between Moses and Mohammad theologically has been that Moses was sent as law giver to people of Israel. And Mohammad was sent as the ultimate law giver to the whole of mankind.

Ofcourse one can draw parallels but in the end it will all be a calculated guess.

Jesus was never sent as a law giver but a reformer.

Thats pretty much the gist of it and rest is well conjecture in my books.

 

[I.R.A]

Moses was sent upon the people of Israel and not upon the gentiles. All Moses did was that the Pharoah should LET HIS PEOPLE GO.

Then why Moses needed to argue with Pharaoh and convince him to accept and submit to ALLAH Al Mighty?

The magicians that converted and accepted the message were they from amongst the people of Moses?

The difference between Moses and Mohammad theologically has been that Moses was sent as law giver to people of Israel. And Mohammad was sent as the ultimate law giver to the whole of mankind.

Different times, and different sizes of roles and responsibilities, and different mental level of people.

Ofcourse one can draw parallels but in the end it will all be a calculated guess.

Jesus was never sent as a law giver but a reformer.

Thats pretty much the gist of it and rest is well conjecture in my books.

Jesus defeated his opponents and overpowered them.