Fair Solution to IOK: Continuation of International border trajectory

[OrionHunter]

I have a better idea, as India claims and wants the World to believe it's a ''civilised'' nation based on democracy, then why not ASK Kashmiris in IOK what they want? It's not so difficult, is it?

Similarly why don't you ask Kashmiris in Azad Kashmir (including GB) and Balochistan what they want? It's not so difficult, is it?

 

[unbiasedopinion]

it was your hindi who said why Pakistani wanna come to india...
think before you reap!

You must be high on something...or you like a aurat likes to link everything with everything.....Hindi is a language......how can language say anything by itself?

 

[Srinivas]

Why are you drawing diagonal lines? Draw the line parallel to Longitude !

The same logic Pakistan follows to claim Siachen by drawing diagonal line.

When disputes are not resolvable by two parties regarding territory or transnational issues, it is often referred to the UN. If and when one party backs out from their promise and refuses to back down from brutal occupation for seven decades, then an out of the box solution, based on logic, compromise and common sense seems to be the only option to avoid all out war and a nuclear wasteland where the subcontinent used to be. Hence, I propose this most reasonable compromise for resolution of IOK.

As we know, the international border based on the radcliffe award tried to incorporate the logic of continuity as well as consideration for majority population of bordering districts. Though this was politicized in certain cases where the logic wasn't followed like Ferozepur, Gurdaspur, Pathankot and Kutch, for the most part rest of the border was done on this basis. This border also roughly approximates the Gurdaspur Kathiawar salient, which separates the Indus basin from ganges watershed. Hence it is a good divider to go by in terms of culture, religion and race, alongside nationality.

In the following maps, the non-straightness of the border is averaged out roughly, almost like a trend line, starting from norhwestern part of rajasthan in thar desert, to Ferozepur. This is the straightest segment of the border near kashmir, which avoids the extreme bulges of kutch and gurdaspur districts. Now if this 'trend line' is continued as it should have been, we realize that the line divides IOK at roughly halfway between hemis national park until chinese border. It also roughly separates the historically muslim majority parts of IOK west of the line from the buddhist/tibetan part to the east of it. With some slight readjustments along the line depending on where ladakhi is predominant as opposed to balti/kashmiri, it will be a just solution.

In case some hindutva starts crying about jammu, read proper history of the region. Jammu city and surrounding villages was overwhelmingly muslim majority before 1947. The dog-ra ruler in collaboration with indian army committed a massacre of muslims of this region of which there are several accounts from respected sources, including european ones. It was no less than a genocide, followed by the prompt shipment of hindus from india by the tyrant and indian authorities to repopulate jammu. Hence, what you see today is artificial slight majority of hindus with over 40 percent muslims and growing. When muslim refugees from jammu are resettled, hindus will have option to live and get along in a muslim majority azad kashmir state, or they can peacefully return back to their original motherland in utter pardesh, bihar or wherever.

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[Sheikh Rauf]

You must be high on something...or you like a aurat likes to link everything with everything.....Hindi is a language......how can language say anything by itself?

maybe you living in dark well arab thats where you have been pronounced as Hindi why are you so ashamed of being called as hindi.. lol
lets say if british speaks english we sometimes call them english like portuguese..
so are you Hindi.. technical its not wrong you from Hindustan speaks hindi.so that makes you HINDI
i think i hurt .. did i?

 

[unbiasedopinion]

maybe you living in dark well arab thats where you have been pronounced as Hindi why are you so ashamed of being called as hindi.. lol
lets say if british speaks english we sometimes call them english like portuguese..
so are you Hindi.. technical its not wrong you from Hindustan speaks hindi.so that makes you HINDI
i think i hurt .. did i?

Shall I start calling you urdu?

 

[Soulspeek]

Officially he is an Urdu but unofficialy a Punjabi.

Shall I start calling you urdu?

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Officially he is an Urdu but unofficialy a Punjabi.

Thats explains his reasoning.....

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Shall I start calling you urdu?

sure up to you it might doesnt sounds right .. but some day it will... Mr. Hindi.

 

[unbiasedopinion]

sure up to you it might doesnt sounds right .. but some day it will... Mr. Hindi.

What about urdi? That sounds better.....like Bengali, Punjabi, the other two dominant languages in Pakistan though Bengali was earlier not now..

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

What about urdi? That sounds better.....like Bengali, Punjabi, the other two dominant languages in Pakistan though Bengali was earlier not now..

urdi lol .. are you hurt Mr. Hindi
urdi phiray havavan ich
teray per katnay paingay.

hindi is language i am not changing the word it is what it is.. Urdu is the word as long as you stick to it with cool heart...
just say it Hindi word hurt you?

 

[unbiasedopinion]

urdi lol .. are you hurt Mr. Hindi
urdi phiray havavan ich
teray per katnay paingay.

hindi is language i am not changing the word it is what it is.. Urdu is the word as long as you stick to it with cool heart...
just say it Hindi word hurt you?

Well, if you have the right to use the word describing a language to address community then I also have a right to correct the word to align or rather ryhm correctly like most of the communities... So Urdi is perfect word for the people using Urdu as their language..mr Urdi...Congrats to have your new identity.

 

[dray]

When disputes are not resolvable by two parties regarding territory or transnational issues, it is often referred to the UN. If and when one party backs out from their promise and refuses to back down from brutal occupation for seven decades, then an out of the box solution, based on logic, compromise and common sense seems to be the only option to avoid all out war and a nuclear wasteland where the subcontinent used to be. Hence, I propose this most reasonable compromise for resolution of IOK.

As we know, the international border based on the radcliffe award tried to incorporate the logic of continuity as well as consideration for majority population of bordering districts. Though this was politicized in certain cases where the logic wasn't followed like Ferozepur, Gurdaspur, Pathankot and Kutch, for the most part rest of the border was done on this basis. This border also roughly approximates the Gurdaspur Kathiawar salient, which separates the Indus basin from ganges watershed. Hence it is a good divider to go by in terms of culture, religion and race, alongside nationality.

In the following maps, the non-straightness of the border is averaged out roughly, almost like a trend line, starting from norhwestern part of rajasthan in thar desert, to Ferozepur. This is the straightest segment of the border near kashmir, which avoids the extreme bulges of kutch and gurdaspur districts. Now if this 'trend line' is continued as it should have been, we realize that the line divides IOK at roughly halfway between hemis national park until chinese border. It also roughly separates the historically muslim majority parts of IOK west of the line from the buddhist/tibetan part to the east of it. With some slight readjustments along the line depending on where ladakhi is predominant as opposed to balti/kashmiri, it will be a just solution.

In case some hindutva starts crying about jammu, read proper history of the region. Jammu city and surrounding villages was overwhelmingly muslim majority before 1947. The dog-ra ruler in collaboration with indian army committed a massacre of muslims of this region of which there are several accounts from respected sources, including european ones. It was no less than a genocide, followed by the prompt shipment of hindus from india by the tyrant and indian authorities to repopulate jammu. Hence, what you see today is artificial slight majority of hindus with over 40 percent muslims and growing. When muslim refugees from jammu are resettled, hindus will have option to live and get along in a muslim majority azad kashmir state, or they can peacefully return back to their original motherland in utter pardesh, bihar or wherever.

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Any fair solution should not involve any land that we hold, please note this as a thumb rule for the next fair solution, this one stands rejected!

 

[ito]

The only fair solution to Kashmir is Pakistan accepting J&K to be the integral part of India

 

[Tiger Genie]

Pakistan problem will be solved only when most Pakistanis learn to think objectively. Till now they have been using emotions of hatred and jealousy born of incompetence in place of objectivity. That is why they fall for a succession of un-leaders starting from their very beginning to present day. Every one of their civilian and military leaders have either been charged for treason or summarily punished or worse ....proving that contention. Even their founder Mr.Jinnah was summarily rejected very soon after, with the change of constitution from secular to Islamic.

Topics such as Islam, India etc are simply kindles that these crooks use to continue fooling the Pakistani public and retain power.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Frightening pictures! Line of men and women holding-up their 'ration cards'. Totally staged! You can barely see the soldiers in the background! Who goes around standing ques with 'ration-cards'. The last picture is REALLY threatening! A soldier with a stick and a rifle. May ALLAH protect my fellow Kashmiris in IOK!

its a region which gonna be next europe. we have to solve it for our next generations...

You don't sell Muslims and their honour for MONEY!

Similarly why don't you ask Kashmiris in Azad Kashmir (including GB) and Balochistan what they want? It's not so difficult, is it?

No problem, I'm a Kashmiri. We want to stay with Pakistan. What a stupid question to ask a MUSLIM of A.K! We ALL want to be with MUSLIM Pakistan. What has Baluchistan have to so with Kashmir thread?

with the change of constitution from secular to Islamic.

Constitiution is secular and not Islamic. There is NO and NEVER was Sharia Law in Pakistan.