Facts About “Spy Master” Hameed Gul You Need To Know!

[Indus Falcon]

@syedali73 @Indus Falcon

So let us forget then it is a Pakistani forum, just participate make your point and move on

My friend, when you have given your blood and your sweat, to protect your motherland from harm, when you took an oath to value it more than your life, then just the word PAKISTAN, is no longer just a word. It's your mother. And IF someone talks ill about your mother, do you look the other way, or tear his heart out?

The only way I can forget that this is a Pakistani Forum, is by not visiting it any more. And that is something I am seriously contemplating.

 

[syedali73]

@waz How many times do I need to report this rat for his avatar?

Does the report button even work?

Read the language. Looks like he has come straight form Mumbai slum's gutter. His avatar is more than enough to show where he belongs to and what he is up to. Don't call him rat, rats have respect after all. I have reported and this thing will be taken care of in due course of time. Just stop tagging this sorry attention seekers.

@WebMaster @Jango @waz

 

[Korrupter]

My friend, when you have given your blood and your sweat, to protect your motherland from harm, when you took an oath to value it more than your life, then just the word PAKISTAN, is no longer just a word. It's your mother. And IF someone talks ill about your mother, do you look the other way, or tear his heart out?

The only way I can forget that this is a Pakistani Forum, is by not visiting it any more. And that is something I am seriously contemplating.

It is interesting looking at the traffic this site gets country-wise. defence.pk Site Overview Scroll down to the audience geography bit.

p.s Why Indians are so obsessed with Pakistani forums (not just defense.pk), I'll never know, not that I have anything against it as long as they're civil but its interesting...

 

[Indus Falcon]

Gen.Hamid Gul R.A. with family

 

[Thorough Pro]

That's the way to go, hit them before the err

he also took his premature retirement unlike many who drag them till last day

 

[Desert Fox]

Main guilt on - Michael "The Juda" Gorbachev.

Interesting. Why was he given that title?

 

[I.R.A]

My friend, when you have given your blood and your sweat, to protect your motherland from harm, when you took an oath to value it more than your life, then just the word PAKISTAN, is no longer just a word. It's your mother. And IF someone talks ill about your mother, do you look the other way, or tear his heart out?

The only way I can forget that this is a Pakistani Forum, is by not visiting it any more. And that is something I am seriously contemplating.

Sir g I respect your feelings, I respect your services for your motherland, I respect the way you think about your country and its inhabitants, but it hurts more when you are insulted and abused by your own with an attitude of I am superior than thou and I am holier than thou. And honestly speaking slowly and gradually my love for my country is reducing to Pakistan only and not Pakistanis. There are occasions where I spontaneously utter the words "Acha hua in Pakistanio kay sath yehi hona chaiay tha".

 

[Psychic]

good point. premature. seems he was tired.



Pakistan has nothing do to with the breakup of ussr. but there are many paksitanis who insist as they fought for usa and Arabia against ussr. but this all is fake.

removal of ussr was a decision by global manipulators and not linked to afghan or pak.

those who could not defeat india cannot defeat bigger ussr.

Iran defeated USSR...right?

 

[Peace seeker]

well we are always proud of over loyal and patriot generals............and he was one of them..........

 

[Psychic]

To say that the Pakistani's defeated the Soviets is all but a joke, the stuff that defeated the soviets are the advanced weapons provided by the CIA, without the stringer the Afghans were getting their asses hand to them. Pak was merely a nation where everything was staged. That said Gul's strategy has gone Gul, Pak is fighting the very criminals it created. Pak is its own biggest enemy.

The Afghans were handing asses of Russians to them in early 80's with .3o3 rifles! Before stingers, the Afghans were taking out Soviet aircraft with SA-7's as well. Stingers amplified what SA-7's did.
And about stingers, training centre was in Rawalpindi, Mujaheddin were selected by ISI, ISI decided who gets how many units, ISI devised strategies of Mujaheddin ( for not only stingers )....

For starters, read what CIA chief Bruce Riedel wrote.
Riedel: The war against the Soviets in Afghanistan was run by Zia, not by us | Foreign Policy

And FYI, apart from some good weapons like stingers, rpg's, MBRL's,MILAN, most of the firearms were rusted and crappy...The Egyptians sold their entire rusted old stock of ak's to the CIA which was given to ISI.
It is interesting to note the butthurt of Bhartis and their false claims when their level of knowledge on Afghan-Soviet war is ZERO.
And by your "logic" the North Vietnamese didn't fight USA. USSR did because of it's weapons LOL

@Syama Ayas

" CIA veteran Bruce Riedel’s new book What We Won: America’s Secret War in Afghanistan, 1979-89, is long in title and short in length. In 156 pages, Riedellays out the story of a war that was fought entirely by other people and secretly supported by the CIA. In the time that it took to drive the Soviet 40th Red Army out of Afghanistan, the Agency suffered no casualties because no CIA officers ever operated inside the country. "

 

[B@KH]

Iran defeated USSR...right?

Iran never attacked ussr and no one defeated ussr.

ussr was Not needed anymore and hence its own president signed the protocol allowing the breakup.


Perestroika & glasnost were enforced to dissolve the ussr.
The missing official agreement to dissolve ussr.
The Official Agreement To Dissolve The USSR Is Missing - KnowledgeNuts

China blamed Gorbachev to ussr dissolution
AFTER THE SOVIET UNION - China Blames Gorbachev for the Debacle - NYTimes.com

So this all has nothing to do with pak or afghan.

 

[Psychic]

Iran never attacked ussr and no one defeated ussr.

.

Shia Militias:

• Harakat i-Islami
• Afghan Hezbollah
• Nasr Party (IVOA)
• COIRGA
• Shura Party
• IRM
• UOIF
• Raad Party

Supported by

• 
  Iran

ussr was Not needed anymore and hence its own president signed the protocol allowing the breakup.

I am talking about withdrawal of USSR from Afghanistan, just like withdrawal of USA from Vietnam.

 

[B@KH]

Shia Militias:

• Harakat i-Islami
• Afghan Hezbollah
• Nasr Party (IVOA)
• COIRGA
• Shura Party
• IRM
• UOIF
• Raad Party

Supported by

• 
  Iran

I am talking about withdrawal of USSR from Afghanistan, just like withdrawal of USA from Vietnam.

Afghan or Pak has nothing do with ussr dissolution.


Perestroika & glasnost were enforced to dissolve the ussr.
The missing official agreement to dissolve ussr.
The Official Agreement To Dissolve The USSR Is Missing - KnowledgeNuts

China blamed Gorbachev to ussr dissolution
AFTER THE SOVIET UNION - China Blames Gorbachev for the Debacle - NYTimes.com

So this all has nothing to do with pak or afghan.

The main reason for the dissolution of ussr was that Russian >1/3rd army was muslim mostly shia.

Unlike USA or Europe. Islam in Russia is not foreign. The Islamic Revolution turned the table.

It was only Fear of Enemies of Islamic Revolution that they decided to dissolve ussr.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Ah Ah Ah...It seems this pig is getting frustrated too much here....

Anyways webmaster has requested me to change the DP...On instructions of him I am changing....

That's very good passive hindu. Learn the ways your own dothead religion, pig.

 

[Psychic]

Afghan or Pak has nothing do with ussr dissolution.


Perestroika & glasnost were enforced to dissolve the ussr.
The missing official agreement to dissolve ussr.
The Official Agreement To Dissolve The USSR Is Missing - KnowledgeNuts

China blamed Gorbachev to ussr dissolution
AFTER THE SOVIET UNION - China Blames Gorbachev for the Debacle - NYTimes.com

So this all has nothing to do with pak or afghan.

The main reason for the dissolution of ussr was that Russian >1/3rd army was muslim mostly shia.

Unlike USA or Europe. Islam in Russia is not foreign. The Islamic Revolution turned the table.

It was only Fear of Enemies of Islamic Revolution that they decided to dissolve ussr.

I said withdrawal not dissolution read my posts clearly , and your Islamic revolution itself supported it's groups in Afghanistan against USSR which you denied.