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You insulted me personal because you dont like that we dont accept veiled face. Whats your problem with that? I feel extremly uncomfortable when i cant see a persons face. Why would you visit a country and willingly try to disturb the people there.
I never insulted you :) You insulted yourself by saying that you guys take laws in your own hand by taking off the veil of women with force and violence.

I don't like to see your face then would you cover your face to please me ? :cheesy:

Would you ban bikini for girls if it make me feel nervous and uncomfortable ? :azn:

If you feel uncomfortable and disturb by looking at those women who are wearing veil then you have option to stop looking at them or look else where at those women who are flashing their water melon but why these women should please you by living as per your likes or dislikes ? They may feel uncomfortable in attempt of making you feel comfortable :D

I will say again that if Italy government decide to make a law which ban veil and suggest penalty for it everywhere in Italy then its up to people to either give up wearing veil or leave Italy which is limiting their personal freedom and choices
 
It is not a Quranic order bro. There is no mention of it. We all know that in Islam certain parts of the body i.e. sattar require to be concealed for male and female. The face veil is certainly not obligatory.

The face veil is something which came into being at a later stage. It is deemed modest in many Islamic cultures.

Some women like to wear it for more modesty and privacy. Others don't wear it. It is a personal choice and that is how it should remain.

We can't have people impose or ban it. It is a completely personal preference.
It's Quranic order bro no one in past 1400 years had denied it only in this century people have started denying it. Even in past 1400 years who say covering face is not compulsory never deny it but say that order was limited to specific time not for ever. Only in modern times after re emergence of some dumb groups people have started denying that this order is not there it's clearly there.
 
I understand where you are trying to get at, but that doesn't prove that the face veil is obligatory according to the Quran.

Personally I believe it is a personal preference. Islamic women should have the freedom to wear the veil if they feel comfortable.

As the face is the most beautiful part of the female, why should it be on display to all? It defies logic ...

Plus Surah An-Nur ayah 31 is very clear and explicit to me.

Allah knows best.
 
I never insulted you :) You insulted yourself by saying that you guys take laws in your own hand by taking off the veil of women with force and violence.

I don't like to see your face then would you cover your face to please me ? :cheesy:

Would you ban bikini for girls if it make me feel nervous and uncomfortable ? :azn:

If you feel uncomfortable and disturb by looking at those women who are wearing veil then you have option to stop looking at them or look else where at those women who are flashing their water melon but why they should please you by living as per your likes or dislikes ?

I will say again that if Italy government decide to make a law which ban veil and suggest penalty for it everywhere in Italy then its up to people to either give up wearing veil or leave Italy which is limiting their personal freedom and choices

Or fight for you right...since MOST of them are "ITALIANS" and therefore citizens... Why should they givee up or Leave?
Will you leave or give up on your country if a stupid law by some racist/fascit is against you belief?
 
Don't lie please ....

Covering face is not mandatory

The face need not be covered, even in Saudi Arabia that legally imposes a dress code

The Council of Islamic Ideology Pakistan maintains that face covering is not mandatory

Al Azhar has confirmed that HIJAB is not a part of the religion

Please read what Shaykh Naasiruddeen Al-Albaanee, the major figure of purist Salafi movement of twentieth century, had written about Niqab:


The main errors of those who make the face veil obligatory
You need to stop lying. Covering face is mandatory and Nasiruddin Albani is one guy more than 85 % agree that this is compulsory I know what Nasiruddin Bani said but sorry majority view is opposite to what sheikh said in fact overwhelmingly
 
Or fight for you right...since MOST of them are "ITALIANS" and therefore citizens... Why should they givee up or Leave?
Will you leave or give up on your country if a stupid law by some racist/fascit is against you belief?
yes true this is another option.,,.but what I suggested was the last resort
 
Or fight for you right...since MOST of them are "ITALIANS" and therefore citizens... Why should they givee up or Leave?
Will you leave or give up on your country if a stupid law by some racist/fascit is against you belief?

Wrong. Most are not citizens since we have lex sanguinis and you need italian parents to be italian cizizen. Its very hard to get cizizenship. Even children born here dont get it. Italy is not their country. How yiu think we manage to deport them if they would have citizenship? You can look it up.
 
You need to stop lying. Covering face is mandatory and Nasiruddin Albani is one guy more than 85 % agree that this is compulsory I know what Nasiruddin Bani said but sorry majority view is opposite to what sheikh said in fact overwhelmingly

Another lie ...

The majority opinion is that covering face is not mandatory ..

Stop Making a bigger idiot of yourself than you already are



Superstar Wahhabi televangelist Zakir Naik also believes that face covering is not mandatory :

http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_801_850/does_islam_make_the_face_veil_ob.htm
 
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Or fight for you right...since MOST of them are "ITALIANS" and therefore citizens... Why should they givee up or Leave?
Will you leave or give up on your country if a stupid law by some racist/fascit is against you belief?
That's the thing Muslims don't get. This anti Islamic sentiment is facade for Europeans to disguise their racism. They don't want non white people in Europe.
 
Wrong. Most are not citizens since we have lex sanguinis and you need italian parents to be italian cizizen. Its very hard to get cizizenship. Even children born here dont get it. Italy is not their country. How yiu think we manage to deport them if they would have citizenship? You can look it up.


As per the law of your land Muslims who live there should apply it though I do urge that you do not strip them off their freedom of practicing their Faith and accept that they can wear the attire (Hijab/cape) just as religious Chrisitian or Rabbi would wear their cape or long cloaks.

Thank you
 
Another lie ...

The majority opinion is that covering face is not mandatory ..

Stop Making a bigger idiot of yourself than you already are

No it's you are who are lying majority view is that covering face is compulsory it always was and is
 
Wrong. Most are not citizens since we have lex sanguinis and you need italian parents to be italian cizizen. Its very hard to get cizizenship. Even children born here dont get it. Italy is not their country. How yiu think we manage to deport them if they would have citizenship? You can look it up.

You know me... And you know how I feel about you...ANd you know that I ALWAYS know better on your country... AND that I'm also Italian... And you are wrong agin and again... I don't really want to answer to you since what you have done before on other thread with your lowlife moral and ethic...

But here for you

Through Naturalistaion: Italian citizenship could be acquirred after spending 10 years and no criminal record... And naturalisation is nearly accepted if you are also born on Italian soil...
Every Italian friend who were born in Italia via 2 FOREIGN parents got their citizenship at 18...

Have Fun.
 
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