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F-7 to JF-17 Conversion - How Long?

Dear,

I don't know why people keep forgetting that Pakistan and India both use Mig-21 variants, i.e. Mig-21Bison for India and FT7 for Pakistan, as supersonic training and OCC. No pilot in PAF goes from FT-5/K-8 to operational unit without clocking at-least 500 hours on FT-7 or F-7P. Mig-21 variants are extremely potent supersonic platforms, except for their component and airframe reliability factor.

Compare this to USAF, and they use F5 variant called the T38 for the same role. T38 is much better because its component, engine and airframe reliability is much much better than any of the Mig21 variant. But the purpose of both is same. Give the pilot handson experience in High-G Supersonic aerial combat training.

When you specialize to any fighter after completing the OCC course, you get to have rigorous experience in anything and everything that a perticular platform can and cannot do. Clocking almost 200 hours in almost a year qualifies you to be put to active combat status, but to master it, requires more.

Conversion between similar platform might be considered as easy, but its not. A pilot upgrading from F15C/F16C to FA22 will learn to fly the plane in less than a dozen hours but will still take hundereds of hours to master all the weapons, G-dynamics, radar/jamming-modes, mission profiles, efficiency regimes, and energy manouvers to utilize his equipment to its full potential.

A fighter plane is like a sports car, not like a Toyota or a Honda. Hell, i can drive Toyota one day, Honda the next and jump into Mercedes whenever i get a chance, but to drive an F1 car, and that too like a Schumacher takes lots and lots of practive, and only then you get to beat Alonso over and over and over again. And once you're out, and want back in, it requires retraining. This is not like driving a proverbial cycle, once learnt is learnt, this requires a whole different level of training and mental focus, which takes years of practice.

Regards,
Sapper
 
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Further to this discussion, here is something on a different project (F-35) but can hopefully be a dot to help us understand and have an idea of how long these things could take. From here: http://www.dote.osd.mil/pub/reports/FY2011/
The program continued to develop training systems for use at the Integrated Training Center, Eglin AFB, Florida. The Air Force’s training command approved courseware and the syllabus for the initial familiarization flight training (a six-mission syllabus) portion of the F-35A transition syllabus.
And concerning the reports of cracks found on the JF-17,
The program halted F-35B durability testing at the end of last year when a wing carry-through bulkhead cracked before 2,000 hours of airframe life. The required airframe lifetime is 8,000 hours. Repair of the bulkhead on the test article was completed in November 2011, and F-35B durability testing is scheduled to restart in January 2012. … … All production aircraft in the first five lots will need the modification before these aircraft reach 1,000 hours. … … During the second 1,000‑hour block of testing, the wing root rib failed, as predicted.
In fact the said cracks in the JF-17 will definitely mean some “minor” structural changes under the skin.
 
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Guys, lets not compare F 7P with T38 ... Totally different platforms ..... Even not with F5.... MIG 21 variants were more agile and fight worthy than any of US trainers cum fighters
 
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Kindly emphasise....
Which stimulator gives the actual flying performance of a combat jet.
If there's one with PAF for JF-17 taining then they are very luky AF coz they'll save a lot of fuel and engine overhauls.
The pilots on F-22 have been training for 8 years almost... Many air raids took place.... But the USAF is yet to use them..... Don't try to answer crap since B-2b and F-117 have been used extensively and the operating cost and risk involved with B-2b is much much much more than F-22A.
 
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Kindly emphasise....
Which stimulator gives the actual flying performance of a combat jet.
If there's one with PAF for JF-17 taining then they are very luky AF coz they'll save a lot of fuel and engine overhauls.
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Back in 2010 we read on this forum they had two at Kamra.
 
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