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I believe PAf will stick with whatever Chengdu is going to produce, don't think they will go with a SAC design, Both JF-17 & J-10 are from Chengdu, an J-20 is also from Chengdu, with the level of confidence and relationship we have made with Chengdu, don't think PAF will go somewhere else.
And i still believe PAF will opt for a single engine stealth platform, twin engine seems not the case.
its not same chines gov owned ? then why should we stick in one and leave other? if F-60 is best for us and low cost then J-20 why not go with it ?
Coz there isn't anything left/present to talk about. Speculations, to be confirmed, no real "leaked" video of uncovered plane.but the pics states about j21 ,but why is everyone talking about j20????
One of the practical/realistic posts. You are right, not only your own side, people of our side brag about AURA, AMCA,FGFA which is yet to materialize or inducted. Lets talk about ACs likely to be inducted soon, J-10B,JF blk II on your side, Super Sukhoi,LCA, Rafale on ours...Why we are bragging about something that is not on the cards atleast not for sometime , we are finding it hard to finance our own project , still many a thunders are to be inducted while the J-10 program is still lingering around and getting more fragile for me with every passing day ...so why the heck we are jumping onto D before getting onto B and C??
The question is what are the alternatives? F35, or a co-development with Turkey right? The earlier comes with high restrictions and operational limitations, the other with the risk that Turkey is not as far as China in the aero field and needs foreign support as well. But a co-development with Turkey would open the chance to western techs and weapons and reduce the dependance on China too.
I doubt that PAF would go for a single engine fighter, because as the F35 shows, you need a highly powerful engine to carry the weight, fuel and payload and it still offers the least flight performance of all stealth fighters that are under development. The main operational costs will come from maintaining the stealth frame anyway and not from the engines or fuel consumption. Even 40 x of these fighters will add high operational costs to PAF.
No no no, you got me wrong, what i meant was PAf going with a design from another Chinese aircraft manufacturer, the one based at Chengdu, the ones who manufactured JF-17 & J-10s, J-7s etc etc.
This current design seems to be from SAC, while J-20 is from Chengdu design institute or 611 as called.
But who knows PAF might go with a SAC like design it it meets their criteria.
I believe PAf will stick with whatever Chengdu is going to produce, don't think they will go with a SAC design, Both JF-17 & J-10 are from Chengdu, an J-20 is also from Chengdu, with the level of confidence and relationship we have made with Chengdu, don't think PAF will go somewhere else.
And i still believe PAF will opt for a single engine stealth platform, twin engine seems not the case.
Isn't it better for us just to confirm J-10B or J-10 sale first
Why rushing towards gen fighter ?
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Yes.. for flow models.
the Thunderstrike, Fatigue test facilities exist at chengdu which the joint team of JF-17 has access to.
ANd yes.. I referred to a 5th gen fighter too.
The design ability for such an aircraft exists too.. to a large extent.
You must understand.. that there are not just local graduates sitting at the PAC.
Graduates from the UK(cranfield etc) , US(Embry Riddle) and all across the globe sit there..
These people have the qualification and the education in distinct important fields to contribute and teach to local students.
So the knowledge base exists..
for eg.. A very detailed study on RAM coatings has been carried out by Pakistan back in the late 90's.. and tested in a modified operational aircraft against multiple radars ,and was found to have worked out pretty well.
So the knowledge base exists.. what these skills demand are funds to procure even more equipment and material.. which does not exist. So the next best thing..i.e to "borrow" Chinese facilities for such tasks is carried out.
One of the practical/realistic posts. You are right, not only your own side, people of our side brag about AURA, AMCA,FGFA which is yet to materialize or inducted. Lets talk about ACs likely to be inducted soon, J-10B,JF blk II on your side, Super Sukhoi,LCA, Rafale on ours...
China hasn't shown anything about it, yet everyone is assuming it is going to be inducted in next 5 years in their AF.