I strongly object to such reasonable and well articulated posts, I'll have you know - and on to bijnis: I was not suggesting that Pakistan are irrelevant, rather that because Pakistan choose to exist in a policy grey area with regard to Islamism and the support infrastructure of terrorism, that China cannot see Pakistan as a true ally - I appreciate the rhetoric of higher than sweeter than and all that, but I also see the level of trade and policy alignment and social interaction -- and I wish we could have better understood the environment we are must be in -- And Yes, it's not an entirely parasitic relationship, however, I'm certain that a Pakistan that can bring a higher level of scientific, engineering and manufacturing capability to the table, is a more valuable Pakistan, from anybody's perspective - not biting the hand that feeds you?? Well, I think the Americans will have a couple of interesting things to say about that, look we are in some pretty desperate straights and desperate people are not people anybody can trust.
I strongly support better and deeper relations with China, especially trade and social and I do wish we behaved as if we understood the value of these.
As for J31, can you point to or present information that allows to conclude that China have moved past technology demonstrator mode?