F-22: America’s Big Broken Toy

[gambit]

Same can be said about America's incorporation of Chinese inventions; the compass and the usage of gun powder.

Yes, let us regress back to Thag who discovered fire.

That would be a flawed concept. There is no point in trying to match the results. It makes better sense in improving upon the results. Only this way, will it enable it to surprise the opponent. Since it is "unknown" it cannot be claimed as being a copy.

Utter garbage. No one what the F-22 look like on a radar scope, so how can China 'improve' upon that result?

It doesn't stop the U.S. shattering your own fantasies. Your emotional hyperbole was understandable. Both F-22 and F-35 are technically grounded, unsafe to fly, unreliable and are not proven.

Both of them are far better proven than China's J-20.

 

[gambit]

hired my arse.

when germany was bombed back to the stone age, the americans gave the german scientists an option, u either work for us or get a bullet in ur brain.
u know the option the scientists chose.

america was behind the russians during the cold war in tech, but america caught up through massive r&d. russians crumbled trying to keep up.

america was helped by the massive immigration of jews to america frm all over the world during hitlers reign. same thing happened to russia.

america is a scavenger, it feeds off the talents of others and then occuses others of doing the same. most of the great innovations done by america are done by immigrants that went to america due to no oppotunities in their home countries. jews, chinese and indians.

but since china and india is rising, america wont get that talent anymore, now they move their to study and then come back to china to start a business. asia is where the growth is.
this trend will speed up.

america is nothing without its foreigners.

It was Deng who admitted -- ADMITTED -- that China need foreign technology in order to advance and that China must send Chinese abroad the way the Japanese did to learn from foreigners. So who is equally the scavenger here? Do you really want to go down that road?

 

[IceCold]

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In other words, this dummass criticism is based upon ignorance and intellectual dishonesty.

An aircraft is an exercise in compromises between competing interests. For the F-22's limited communication issue, this is not so much about technical flaws or designers' stupidity but about the overriding need to maintain low EM emission of any type that the designers were compelled to subordinate communication flexibility to low EM signature.

This mean two possibilities:

- That the F-22's communication system could be 'stepped down' to allow it to communicate with older aircrafts at the expense of increased EM signature.

- That the older aircrafts' communication technology could be 'stepped up' to allow all aircrafts to communicate with each other over a much more secured system without compromising their positions, be they 'stealth' or 'non-stealth', after all, radio communication emissions are much more powerful than any radar reflections, singular or combined, coming off an aircraft.

Given the pace of upgrades of sub-systems the US continually perform on 'non-stealth' aircrafts, it would make eminent sense to 'step up' all older aircrafts to assure COMSEC advantage in combat. When Iranian and Chinese aircrafts start flaming down to Earth with their crews clueless on where the attackers are coming from, we will have the last laugh.

Sir i have a question regarding the above if you could possibly answer. There was an air exercise i think a year ago in Egypt where air forces from the US, UAE, Egypt, Pakistan participated in order to enhance cooperation. I believe that while practicing some sort of communication is made between collation aircraft's. There was this picture showing in formation the F-22, Pakistan F-7s. Assuming that these were flying in, how did the communication took place between the three?

 

[amalakas]

The F-22 will swallow up the J-20 and sh!t out two J-10s.

Wouldn't that mean the said F-22 would now have two J-10s on its six ????


The 30 manhours maint/nce per flight hour, might be true, but guys, you don't know how these manhours are calculated.

if four techs work on a plane for 1 (one) hour (and you won't believe how quickly an hour goes by when you do careful work) .. then on the task sheet, there are 4 hours of work or 4 manhours .. the plane is still ready to fly in an hour though !!

 

[gambit]

Sir i have a question regarding the above if you could possibly answer. There was an air exercise i think a year ago in Egypt where air forces from the US, UAE, Egypt, Pakistan participated in order to enhance cooperation. I believe that while practicing some sort of communication is made between collation aircraft's. There was this picture showing in formation the F-22, Pakistan F-7s. Assuming that these were flying in, how did the communication took place between the three?

The limited communication that these ignorant yay-hoos chuckled about IS NOT radio communication but of selected voice/data links that allow more information exchanges than ordinary voice radio communication. In the US, F-22s talk to civilian air traffic controllers whenever they fly.

I will post the recent explanation again...

DailyTech - Lockheed's F-22 Raptor Communications Too Limited, Capabilities Too Advanced for Libya Conflict

Radio emission from data links that would enable the Raptor to communicate with other fighters would also potentially give the position of the stealthy F-22 away.

The problem here is the flexibility of the word 'radio' where people could mistakenly interpreted it any way they want. Verbal communication can be over radio. Same for non-verbal, as in data. Radar signals are essentially radio transmission because that was how radar detection came to be: An accidental discovery of radio transmission behaviors among physical structures.

So one technically ignorant dingbat made his own interpretation of what is an alleged 'flaw' the other technically ignorant dingbats jumped on the bandwagon.

 

[gambit]

Wouldn't that mean the said F-22 would now have two J-10s on its six ????

Yeah...But those two J-10s would be in liquid form.

The 30 manhours maint/nce per flight hour, might be true, but guys, you don't know how these manhours are calculated.

if four techs work on a plane for 1 (one) hour (and you won't believe how quickly an hour goes by when you do careful work) .. then on the task sheet, there are 4 hours of work or 4 manhours .. the plane is still ready to fly in an hour though !!

These guys have no relevant experience of even in the civilian manufacturing sector, but they have no problems bloviating about what they do not know of the military.

 

[v9s]

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