F-16s for Pak could cloud IAF's 126-plane deal: India to US

[manish123]

Nothing surprising, don't know why you people are fighting
Indians have the money & the something up in their skulls, They will do whatever they can keep Pakistan away from quality weapons & with Recent tilting of US towards Pak(Americans love to play the dual game) it seems to me Indians will like to hit Americans under the belt & the MMRCA will go European Contenders

Hitting Americans below the belt is something of my wet dream

 

[LCA Tejas]

I can see you are lost for words and now digressing to salvage anything of the sort, my other reply goes to you as well.

Yes, You were out of words when I made you come on topic instead of allowing you to post your "Table manner" kinda posts,lol..... And If u cannot digest what I wrote that dosent mean that I lost the track....

 

[MZUBAIR]

How much Euro fighter??? and how Eurofighter will balance ur relationship With USA?

These days we have very warm relations with Americans

 

[MZUBAIR]

WTH i thought F-16s were Coming free.But i don't believe that we are actually buying them with Cold Hard Cash.

I mean on one side we say that Americans are Unreliable on other hand we continue to buy Equipment.

We already paid amount of 18 F-16's......

 

[MZUBAIR]

Please could somebody tell me why do we want 126 mainline fighter planes from an unreliable, untrustworthy and backstabbing nation like US. Is pakistan so important that it has to come into such a strategic weapons/decision.

Ask this from ur Gov......ur intrested to buy F-16 or may be F-18.

 

[kashith]

US under democratic rule will always help Pakistan.Nothing new in this behavior.US just want to save its azz and run from afghanistan.Pakistan,like a loyal minion will be entrusted to do its bidding once it is gone.so they are pampering pakistan.Once they are out of Afghanistan they wont give a ***'s $$$ about Pak or afghanistan.We on the other hand need to develop BRIC relationship to challenge US.

 

[Windjammer]

The point is you would have exercised it if you could!

The fact of the matter is straight that Mr. Moscow don't give a **** about you!

So please now be on topic and add something to it rather than try and de-rail the thread else just leave be.

I don't know I have reported this guy twice and no action is being taken against him.

Empty pots make more noise so you people take the center stage for the drama queen title, and since you are oozing with advise, perhaps a little whisper in your fellows ear.

 

[Windjammer]

Yes, You were out of words when I made you come on topic instead of allowing you to post your "Table manner" kinda posts,lol..... And If u cannot digest what I wrote that dosent mean that I lost the track....

You have really lost the plot buddy, your country fellows are adamant in addressing the subject topic while you are merely resorting to salvage the lost pride by singing the well worn tune.

 

[MZUBAIR]

Guys no point talking about this - This has no bearing on Indian Defense as such.

18 more F-16s cannot match 100 odd SU 30 MKIs close to 150 in the next some years and then 126+ MMRCAs all top notch best in the world.

Funny....its not 18 F-16........It would be 18 (New Block 52) + 45(Upgraded to Block 52) = 63 can do some serious impression even against 150 MKI's.

It is a good exercise to get a feel of the OBAMA administration towards India - Its plain Diplomacy - even if they are buying them or getting them in AID we should not be concerned as much - It does augment their capabilities but then in the current scenario with a huge fleet of ours the, 60-80 F-16s cannot do a lot of harm to us so really we do not need to react at all.

Pak already paid for these F-16's.

Our government warned the US, now if US goes ahead with it, they will only have themselves to blame if they do not win the 126-200 odd aircrafts deal and quite frankly we will not be losing out on anything since we have better aircrafts than the F-18s and the F-16s in the competition.

Now do u think USA having prob to sell F-16 or F-18.
They have number of intrested couuntriesd wanted to buy moe then 100's of these but USA is not intrested to sell them.....

They have more then 900 Billion $'s annual budget defence. So 10B $ is just a rice seed for them.

I suggest u to find out the reason Y USA offered F-16 or F-16 to India.

I would anyways put the F-18s out since we just got a fleet of Mig 29Ks for our carrier and more on Order, so an F-18 looks like out of the Question - On the other hand now that the F-16 are being considered as "Target Practice Drones" by the US apart from the fact that Pakistan has already mastered that bird, it will definitely not go down well with our AF and the public if we buy them.

F-18 is the best ever jet for any Navy.

So from where I look at this both th F-16s and F-18s are out of the contenders already. But the Indian government is smart - it may have found a way to blame the US for them losing despite the fact that we were never gonna buy them anyways! LOL!

THE BABUs are not all that stupid!

......good if this make u happy

 

[Mirza Jatt]

I think its time that India shows USA that its is not liking the dual game played by USA.And this can be done through this deal.India has actually nothing to loose.Its good for India if US does not allow the planes to Pakistan,but if it does, India now will have areason to buy other aircrafts from europe.

 

[MZUBAIR]

I hope the chinese are not reading this....
even my Pakistan friends want the European, US weapons over the Chinese stuff....

though i also dont think Pakistan will not get f-16....i also feel like as suggested before by Mahakaya that it is more a tactic to ensure that the blame for India not taking US planes is put squarely on US only.....

Pak have more western then Chinees techs.
And I think Few Chinees techs are far batter then any western or eastern.

Would u like to compare J-10 with LCA. U will find which one is batter

 

[Mahakaya]

Empty pots make more noise so you people take the center stage for the drama queen title, and since you are oozing with advise, perhaps a little whisper in your fellows ear.

Well right now you are striving hard to "GAIN THE VERY TITLE YOU ARE BESTOWING UPON US"

Clearly you don't have much brains to add to the thread so please leave!

The proverb you used in the opening of your argument best suits you and not us who are contributing to this thread!

 

[Marxist]

n a reaction that is bound to raise the hackles in Islamabad, one of the US makers of F-16 fighter jets, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics has made an open attempt to mollify India after concerns were raised by New Delhi.

Over the F-16 deal with Pakistan, Lockheed Martin has told TIMES NOW that New Delhi's concerns are unwarranted because the F-16s being provided to India are far superior to the ones being given to Pakistan.

Speaking to TIMES NOW, Orville Prins, Vice President, Business Development-India, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics said India has no need for concern. The super viper for India is the most advanced version of the F16s and that it meets and exceeds all of India's Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft requirements.

The assurance from the US makers comes after a similar one was given by the US Ambasador to India, Timothy Romer.

India's concerns

It is reported that earlier this year when the Indian foreign secretary was in Washington there were concerns raised. Pakistan F-16 with laser-guided bomb kits besides other sophisticated equipment will give Pakistan an edge over India.

Also, that armed drones like 'Predators' asked by Pakistan will be used against India and will change equations in the region.

Indo-Pak row over F-16 fighters- TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News Videos

 

[Star Trek]

What's the matter with pak members - what's tehre to fuss about

Itsn't pakistan blackmailing the whole world about the requirements to fight the terrorists in its own background - Give us money or else we will allow them to operate from our soil Eg - Asking USA for $ 50 Billion and Asking UK for more market access.

India is trying to put some pressure on the basis of defence procurements - what's wrong with it.

Every country will use whatever is at their disposal to undermine the other country.

 

[Peregrine]

n a reaction that is bound to raise the hackles in Islamabad, one of the US makers of F-16 fighter jets, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics has made an open attempt to mollify India after concerns were raised by New Delhi.

Over the F-16 deal with Pakistan, Lockheed Martin has told TIMES NOW that New Delhi's concerns are unwarranted because the F-16s being provided to India are far superior to the ones being given to Pakistan.

Speaking to TIMES NOW, Orville Prins, Vice President, Business Development-India, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics said India has no need for concern. The super viper for India is the most advanced version of the F16s and that it meets and exceeds all of India's Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft requirements.

The assurance from the US makers comes after a similar one was given by the US Ambasador to India, Timothy Romer.

India's concerns

It is reported that earlier this year when the Indian foreign secretary was in Washington there were concerns raised. Pakistan F-16 with laser-guided bomb kits besides other sophisticated equipment will give Pakistan an edge over India.

Also, that armed drones like 'Predators' asked by Pakistan will be used against India and will change equations in the region.

Indo-Pak row over F-16 fighters- TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News Videos

Hi,
this is pretty obvious then, no matter how much India raises this issue Pakistan will be getting these f-16's