F-16's are best to counter immediate threat!!!

[farhan_9909]

Any update, you need to upgrade the air frame, there is a limit to it, even in order to add stealth features..

you can..why do you think ther is limit for f-18 upgrade bt nt the f-16

f-15 is more older then F-16 bt now f-16 is going to be a stealth fighter with internal weapons bay

 

[farhan_9909]

Probably not, F-18 is here to stay, take a look at the new F-18 with cft, internal weapons bay, AESA radar. The future prospects of F-18 is quite good. I don't think they are going for so much upgrades just to keep it in service for only nine years

the new f-18 with external weapons bay(nt internal)

you can also mount the external weapons bay on f-16 and f-16 carry more payload then f-18.

f-16 has AESa
external bay like f-18 can be mounted on f-16 because it carries more payload
RCS are low then f-18 because of its design
gud T/w then f-18.(in Dogfight you will use AB)

 

[farhan_9909]

Range is nowhere mentioned here, but even if so without the RCS of the target aircraft range has no significance. You can always detect a Boeing 747 at a distance more than 200km.

we knw the range APG 68.
so it is twice of APG 68..now you guess how much it would be

 

[Skull and Bones]

the new f-18 with external weapons bay(nt internal)

you can also mount the external weapons bay on f-16 and f-16 carry more payload then f-18.

f-16 has AESa
external bay like f-18 can be mounted on f-16 because it carries more payload
RCS are low then f-18 because of its design
gud T/w then f-18.(in Dogfight you will use AB)

You might consider a look at this video

 

[Skull and Bones]

external bay like f-18 can be mounted on f-16 because it carries more payload

You should check wikipedia again.

 

[farhan_9909]

You might consider a look at this video

already watched.

the bay can be mounted on f-16 too.if india request for f-16 with external(internal is something like f-22/j-20/PAK fa bays)

this is external internal weapon bay

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You should check wikipedia again.

f-16 carry 7.8ton payload and f-18 carry 8ton

only 200kg difference.

 

[Storm Force]

F16s are great Warplanes

But the MMRCA has come 10 YEARS too late for F16IN to win mmrca

It has to be new fighter which can serve up to 2040+

F16s will be phased out between 2020-2030 IN ALL of the TOP AIR FORCES... including USA ISRAEL & NATO.

Cost wise it falls way behind Gripen ng & MIG35

The Typhoon & Rafael cost nearly the same have twin engines and lower RCS NOT TO MENTION will be in service until 2040. with both RAF & FRENCH AIR FORCES & globally

 

[tvsram1992]

Let me ask some fundamental Questions.

1) Why this lease thing doesn't apply to other fighters.
F-18 E/F-We can ask the US Navy to lease us some aircrafts
Rafael- Dasault is ready to give 40 Rafael quickly while India finalises the MMRCA
Eurofighter-Partner countries are reducing the number of Tranche 3A/B. India can be the direct replacement.

2) One can't just buy/lease an aircraft and take it to war. The Airforce needs to develop tactics and the pilots need to train on the fighter. And this takes years. There is a reason why aircrafts are inducted one squadron at a time. Unless we lease the Jets along with their fighter pilots the option is useless.

1.because F-16 is the only aircraft over 1000 operational by USAF.
It wouldnt make much difference if it looses 100.
USN would be nothing if they give 100 f-18's
So no f-18
Rafale is very costly, after getting 40 rafales the pain starts....
so no rafale
EFT is a joint venture of more than one country. More over it is costly and all the above aircrafts are inferior in number with USAF f16's
so no EFT
2.Why we use f-16's , while we have no of su30's.
No neighbouring country would dare to tackle us with 45 squadron aircraft. It is only to maintain neurality. Else worse situation could result in war.
While we are leasing N-submarine why not f-16's???
We would pay for it if aircraft is lost.
Do you think all 100 F-16's will be lost in war???

 

[tvsram1992]

already watched.

the bay can be mounted on f-16 too.if india request for f-16 with external(internal is something like f-22/j-20/PAK fa bays)

this is external internal weapon bay

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f-16 carry 7.8ton payload and f-18 carry 8ton

only 200kg difference.

f-16 has combat radius of 1700km while f-18 has 700km range.
so f-16 can go for 1000km longer than f-18 and return back after attacking!!!
I dont know why every one is saying f-18......(except the fact that pakistan has f-16)
Is USAF a fool to buy F-16's more than 1000 in numbers rejecting YF-17(f-18).
F-16 is 200% efficient than f-18. The number proves it.
f-18 may be advantageus for navy as it can be vstol configuration. Thats it. else f-18 is waste.

 

[tvsram1992]

Why cant f-16 serve more than 40 years when it is manufactured now???
F-16 has 8000 flight hours with out upgrades while other aircrafts has not more than 4000 flight hours.
It has low maintainance costs also.

 

[MST]

because F-16 is the only aircraft over 1000 operational by USAF.
It wouldnt make much difference if it looses 100.

Those are F-16 C/D. They span from Block 25 to Block 50/52. I don't know how many are of what type.
USAF doesn't operate F-16 E/F (the one with AESA radar)

While we are leasing N-submarine why not f-16's???
We would pay for it if aircraft is lost.

We are inducting only 1 nuke sub and not 100s. Our Sailors are training on it for years now.
Inducting any plane takes time since pilots need to get trained. Airfoce needs to understand the pros and cons of the plane and build up strategy on how to use it. Even if you lease 100 jets now it will take another 5-10 years before we can take all of them to war.

So unless u rent USAF pilots as well there is not point leasing 2nd hand planes. Better to get new ones.

Do you think all 100 F-16's will be lost in war???

What brings you to that conclusion? I didn't say that.

 

[baker]

how many MMRCA threads we are running parallel... am sure once mmrca is finalized PDF will be out of new topics....

 

[casual]

f16 has a better radar and is combat proven.

 

[tvsram1992]

Those are F-16 C/D. They span from Block 25 to Block 50/52. I don't know how many are of what type.
USAF doesn't operate F-16 E/F (the one with AESA radar)


We are inducting only 1 nuke sub and not 100s. Our Sailors are training on it for years now.
Inducting any plane takes time since pilots need to get trained. Airfoce needs to understand the pros and cons of the plane and build up strategy on how to use it. Even if you lease 100 jets now it will take another 5-10 years before we can take all of them to war.

So unless u rent USAF pilots as well there is not point leasing 2nd hand planes. Better to get new ones.


What brings you to that conclusion? I didn't say that.

so what?
we will have f-16 c/d , for long range missions and airsuperiority we have su30's and mig29's.
US has real time simulators so our pilots may gain maximum experience in 2 years
(simulator + real training)
One buddy told they would lose in war.......

 

[tvsram1992]

why you say inducting planes when we are leasing ?
we would get all planes at a time along with pilots.
Now we induct pilots as per squadrons.
problem solved.