Najam Khan
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I am not a very active in Pencil art these days...these are from the good old days
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Ironically everytime an F-104 met an IAF MiG-21, the result was the F-104 of PAF resting in peace.
I wonder why the IAF would have named it as Badmash then.
GB
before i answer your question can you tell me how many sorties did the Mig21 carry out in 65 war? & how many F-104s did it shoot down in 65?
Only history can determine the facts hence you need to catch up on your history to get your figures right.Nope.
Get your facts corrected. Only 3 MiG-21's were lost on ground in 1965 war.
2 in Pathankot and 1 in Adampur.
GB
The pic doesnt look old.
I also saw few pics of F-6 (In "PAF piolts" thread), which dooesnt look too old.
Could any senior tell me.......are these aircrafts (F-6, F-104, B57, etc) still used in PAF for any other purpose like training or 3rdline fighter?
As much as I know .....there r number of countries including USA uses their old crafts for many purposes like Research Study for University Stds , early pilot training, or other useful works.
You forgot to add the primary weapon, Aim-9B. That Mig-21 was bought down by Sidewinder. And given the fact that trying to evade a missile would bleed energy, it no surprise that PAF had the advantage in a guns dogfight even if the first fired missiles fail to hit. The direct missile kills is pretty high for PAF in those wars, almost 30 - 40% IIRC. In contrast the Soviet K-13 was the only missile in IAF and only Mig-21s carried them(in contrast, almost all types of PAF fighters carry Sidewinders), and they were basically junk and was only attributed to 3 or 4 kills. They were scrapped and junked immediately after the war. The rest of 90% Kills were brought down by good old WW-2 style guns & cannons.i guess F6 (Mig19) + its pretty powerful cannon can also earn a post retirement "badmash" title considering that it had no problems proving that it could turn enemy Mig21s into fantastic fireworks in the sky
You forgot to add the primary weapon, Aim-9B. That Mig-21 was bought down by Sidewinder. And given the fact that trying to evade a missile would bleed energy, it no surprise that PAF had the advantage in a guns dogfight even if the first fired missiles fail to hit. The direct missile kills is pretty high for PAF in those wars, almost 40 - 50% IIRC.