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Extremist Hindus rout Christians from rural Indian village

A R Rahman was Hindu who became a muslim. This is totally totally impossible in Pakistan. A Muslim in Pakistan cannot even dream of changing his faith. Not just Pakistan , Even in India a Muslim cannot dare change his faith.
So muslim in this forum shouldn't start such threads ,they should look at their faith before pointing fingers at Hindus.

Now coming to Christianity in India, I have studied at convent and with my own eyes i have seen life styles of few kids around me change over nite. At that time i could n't comprehend nor was actually bothered. few years after passing out i came to know many students and their families who were Hindus were lured by missionaries with money to become christians not just Students but few of our teachers and class 4 employees also.
If you were Hindu and undiscplined then you would be kicked out of the school, fare enough. There was boy in my class a complete bully and thief with no interest in studies barely managing to pass, perfect candidate to be expelled but our christain maganament did nothing against,though he was suspended few times. The reason for this was also the same, his family had converted christainity and hence special treatment.

Now we got no problem if some one has geninue change of heart and wants to become to become christian. But the way missionaries are spreading their faith in India is plain criminal. In US, church will never let any religon increase its numbers the way the missionaries are doing here in India.

Thousands of people are beings converted in India daily and only in very few cases the majority revolts and such stray cases of voilence are seen and i would dare these missionaries to try same in some muslim country.
 
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Sir I know the background so called background resulted in killing of thousands of Muslims and Christians in Orissa and and Sikhs in Punjab Sir I am proud to be a fundamentalist Sir and doesn't make fun other religions because that is what Islam says Mr you go and do some reading before telling me and also face reality Sir

Religious violence are a reality in South Asia,Neither India nor Pakistan is free from it.How many hundreds Pakistanis have been killed in sectarian violence in Pakistan.I suggest you should face some reality too.
 
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Religious violence are a reality in South Asia,Neither India nor Pakistan is free from it.How many hundreds Pakistanis have been killed in sectarian violence in Pakistan.I suggest you should face some reality too.

Hmm..no...He is a proud fundamentalist..i.e., salafi and to him killing Shias is not a crime.
 
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Not something unheard-of to me, grudge against minorities can't be lessened among religious zealots. Anyway, perpetrator must be brought to the justice.
 
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Religious violence are a reality in South Asia,Neither India nor Pakistan is free from it.How many hundreds Pakistanis have been killed in sectarian violence in Pakistan.I suggest you should face some reality too.

Shias and Ahedmis are daily butchered in Pakistan. Hindus are fleeing Pakistan.
After Gujarat riot no case of atrocity has been reported against muslims in India. Nor we seeing Indian mulsim fleeing India.
These days kashmir is even more peacefull than Islamabad.
People responible for Gujarat episode are behind bar and even Modi is facing the heat of Gujarat riots. Chances of him being PM of India are dimishing.

So please donot compare India with Pakistan.Our national appetite for voilence is nothing compared to what Pakistan has.
 
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they wanted to collect water when it was raining. Couldnt they have just collected water from rain? they are just causing pr0oblem
 
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I don't believe so. There can some % that is crazy. But most in Pakistan are just like Indians.

Out of the 50+ Islamic countries, only 2 i know of is secular....Indonesia & Turkey. What happened to the rest? Yes, only a small % are crazies and it applies to all religions but unlike other religions the crazies are not regulated by the mainstream in Islam.
 
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so by this logic I can prove that even majority Sunni are oppressed by showing an article of a few Sunnis being killed.

Do Sunnis have a law like this against them?

298-C. Person of Quadiani group, etc., calling himself a Muslim or preaching or propagating his faith: Any person of the Quadiani group or the Lahori group (who call themselves 'Ahmadis' or by any other name), who directly or indirectly, poses himself as a Muslim, or calls, or refers to, his faith as Islam, or preaches or propagates his faith, or invites others to accept his faith, by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representations, or in any manner whatsoever outrages the religious feelings of Muslims shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three years and shall also be liable to fine.

Ordinance XX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's dark ages, nothing less.

Also are Sunnis being killed by Ahmadis like Sunnis are killing Ahmadis? So it’s not all the same, its one sided persecution.



Persecution links from recent past alone;

http://tribune.com.pk/story/406708/police-demolish-ahmadi-worship-place-minarets-in-kharian/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/437786/ahmadi-shopkeeper-gunned-down/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/424770/...d-no-place-to-offer-eid-prayers-spokesperson/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/424516/religious-text-removed-from-ahmadis-shop-home-in-sheikhupura/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/424061/...-whitewash-quranic-verses-from-ahmadi-graves/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/418714/ahmadi-charged-with-blasphemy-for-second-time-in-sargodha/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/410566/ahmadi-leader-shot-down-in-karachi/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/404509/pta-bans-official-ahmadi-website-report/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/394030/excavation-of-ahmadi-grave-could-spark-clash/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/386259/darul-zikr-court-orders-ahmadis-to-demolish-minaret-dome/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/381857/ahmedi-place-of-worship-clerics-press-for-demolition-of-dome/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/374935/state-of-the-nation-urdu-press-seen-complicit-in-ahmedi-baiting/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/373787/anti-ahmedi-laws-police-act-as-worship-place-looks-like-a-mosque/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/344439/police-bar-ahmadis-from-entering-worship-centre/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/343706/targeted-attack-ahmadi-killed-grandson-injured-in-s-benazirabad/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/342027/banned-drinks-no-shezan-pepsi-at-punjab-university/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/341228/...als-demand-removal-of-barricade-cctv-cameras/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/335612/...re-lawyers-stick-to-ban-in-face-of-criticism/

Where is the freedom, if the mullahs who will dictate what is allowed or not, and with all this violence and suppression? You have a very strange definition of freedom.
 
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Hindus twice assaulted a Christian community in a rural India village early this month, beating believers, forcing them into Hindu worship rituals, and damaging their homes, according to Christian witnesses.

The Sunday worship meeting was underway Sept. 2 at the home of a new Christian, Daminbai Sahu, in Bhanpuri, a village in the Balod district of India’s state of Chhattisgarh. The witnesses said a group of villagers stormed into the house and beat several of the people attending the meeting, including a visiting pastor identified only as Dada, of the Philadelphia Fellowship.

The attackers accused Dada of forcefully converting Hindus to Christianity, the witnesses said, and dragged him out of the house. As hundreds gathered around the commotion, the extremists ordered Dada out of the village and threated to kill him if he returned, said Samuel Philip of the Church of God in Balod. They forced believers to renounce their faith in Christ late into the night, said Church of God Rev. Sandeep Claudius.

The following night, at 11 p.m., about 600 Hindu extremists stormed the houses of five Christian families belonging to the Philadelphia Fellowship, Claudius said. Led by four men he identified as Manish Sahu, Virendra Yadav, Vinod Gond, and Vinod Sahu, the mob called the Christians “pagans” and accused them of trying to forcefully convert Hindus to Christianity. They threatened dire consequences if they did not give up their faith. They broke doors, damaged the houses and household items, Christian witnesses said.

Claudius said the extremists forced the Christians to bow before Hindu idols and chant Hindu slogans.

“We will not forsake Christ even at the point of death because he has forgiven our sins and gave us new life,” one victim, Deherram Sahu, told Open Doors News.

The extremists forced Sahu and believers from three other families, Sarjuram Sahu, his wife Janakbai Sahu, and Ubhayram Sahu to leave the village at about 1 a.m., in the monsoon rain. The four reached a small town of Gurur, about 12 kilometers away, and informed the church leaders at Balod. Later they found shelter in Balod with local Christians.

Christians remaining in Bhanpuri, including children and elderly, were unable to come out of their houses.

“The Christians were banned from collecting drinking water from the village well,” Philip said. “It was raining and the Christians collect some water from the rain. However after realizing that the Christians have little water in their houses, the extremists went over to their houses and threw all their water away.”

Family members were rescued from the village after some days by area church leaders. They went to the Gurur police station, but were turned away. “He advised the believers to go back to the village and worship Hindu gods,” Philip said.

Church leaders eventually prevailed upon the police to accept the complaint, and statements from the four believers evicted from Bhanpuri have been registered. But police have not filed a first-information report detailing the assaults.

The small Christian community of Bhanpuri has faced ostracism since converting to Christianity in 2006.

“They were not allowed to sell and buy in the village, were not allowed to draw water from the well, and were treated as outcasts,” Philip said. “They were not allowed to walk on the main road because the extremists were frightened that it will get contaminated because of their faith in Christ.”

The Open Doors International World Watch List describes India as a nation where Christians generally are free, but “violence against pastors and church gatherings continues on a monthly basis, usually in rural areas.” The World Watch List documented more than 100 incidents of violence against Christians in 2011.

The Indian constitution guarantees religious freedom, but in five of India’s 28 states, including Chhattisgarh, the law also forbids forced conversion from one religion to another. Christians under pressure in those states frequently face accusations that they are actively recruiting Hindus away from their religion.

In August, the high court of India’s northern state of Himachal Pradesh reaffirmed the law’s prohibition of forced conversion. But it struck down a 2006 addition to the law, one which requires a person to give the government 30-day notice before conversion.

"A person not only has a right of conscience, the right of belief, the right to change his belief, but also has the right to keep his beliefs secret," the court ruled.

Extremist Hindus rout Christians from rural Indian village

Any kind of conversion to tilt the demographic balance of a society should be prevented legally and lawful way....But again...this has to be understood my the people of every faith....I aware about situation to this area and i know how this works out here....So it will take pages to understand what is the real issue with this issue of conversion and the scenario there....
 
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