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Explosive speech of Faisal Raza Abidi on Terrorism.

Yara, this guy does know how to speak, and speak very well. Awesome speech! :pakistan:

Problem hai pai..

Ke abhi hamare "Mohibe Watan..Khilafat-e-Aamriat ke Ahl-Mitti ke Paidaish " are too busy defining "Ummat" as they see it fit and in their heads ready to condemn the rest to the slaughter house..

Think about it.. There are easily identifiable characters here who in real life have others like them..
Who WILL have no qualms standing by(or in some cases partaking) in incidents like the Hazara bus massacres..or even something like woolwich against their fellow ID card holders.

Where does one avoid the fanaticism?
We saw it in the vehement and almost maniacal defense of PTI or MQM...
We see it within Sunni-Shia-whatever..
We see it in "Liberal" - "Patriotism" and so on.

Im surprised that it does not even strike their conscience!(and in a broader view.. of the population section they represent).
Aeronaut is right..

Chalo Chalo.. North Korea chalo!:rolleyes:
 
In short, you are a sniveling retard. You remind me of the German jerkoffs who pretend the holocaust never happened. Rather than admitting to yourself that a horror was committed in the name of Saudisation of our country, you'll insult everyone's intelligence by hiding behind idiotic conspiracy theories. The Japanese are doing the same thing. They've gone from admitting to the Nanking massacre, then to downplaying it, then to trivializing it, and finally to today where they've erased it from their history books and claim it was all a conspiracy and that the Chinese did it to themselves.


Aik aur gadha aik aur brain fart, muaf karoo baba. KAbhi aphnay giraybaan main jhankh kar bhi dekh liya karoo. MR jerkoff. lol
Man I did step on some tails did I not. You guys dont understand simple logic.

Although - I agree with him what he is saying, But the question is where was this passion in last 5 years when his govt. brook records of corruption, they were more busy in saving their leader & govt. than caring about lives of mango man. They didn't stood by the LEAs when they were screaming that courts are letting the terrorists go. His govt. was conspiring against own army. For 5 years they used to say that army wants to derail system and now when 5 years are complete he is saying that no army is fighting for her own survival and not interested in power.

Thank you sir thank you for common sense. Tusi great ho papa ji.
 
@Dillinger, very important point: Why are all secularist parties being targeted and Army isn't doing **** about it? I see another ****** experiment in action by the army.



Not going to happen mate. We need India bogey to keep 650,000+ forces. With excess of 400+ special weapons, what's the point of keeping such a large force? That also holds true for India. India also needs China bogey to keep that ridiculously huge army.

The bit about the secularist parties being targeted and subsequently no action being taken was reported before in Dawn.

We've never faced an enemy who will tie rocks to a child and throw him/her into the river..target children with bullets and bomb..yes but never this. I know dead is dead but the method just appalls me even more.
 
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The bit about the secularist parties being targeted and subsequently no action being taken was reported before in Dawn.

We've never faced an enemy who will tie rocks to a child and throw him/her into the river..target children with bullets and bomb..yes but never this. I know dead is dead but the method just appalls me even more.

India used to throw toy bombs across the border in Pakistan and in Azad Kashmir... scores of children died and amputated, now zardari allowed you free hand to carry out your evil.
 
India used to throw toy bombs across the border in Pakistan and in Azad Kashmir... scores of children died and amputated, now zardari allowed you free hand to carry out your evil.

Sure thing..toy bombs and what not...I am sure, judging by your previous posts, that one of those landed on your head and severely impaired your thinking.

As if we'd ever fund the TTP and its likes, BLA sure but never the Taliban..they have always termed us as Dar al Harb and we do not break bread with their kind.
 
This guy is a psycho! Few months back he was talking about committing suicide! His party ruled by five long years what did they did for this terrorism problem!instead they gave us many more problems.
 
He's a great speaker and I have been a fan of his for a while, regardless of what party he belongs to.

If he has a clean record then PTI should make a push for him to join the party.

Since 9/11 many Pakistanis are confused over their identify, they have started believing the nonsense of your identify being Islam and nothing else matters.

That means there are people who do not think of themselves as Pakistanis, but just Muslims. This phenomenon extends to Pakistanis in all corners of the world. This is dangerous and it never was like this.

We need to create a message that you are Pakistani first and then whatever religion you follow. This is so important for the national paradigm. For the youth as they are growing up, to know the importance of being a citizen of Pakistan as opposed to just being Muslim.

This "identify Islam" mentality originates from people in the Arab countries who think their leaders and borders are not theirs as it was constructed post fall of Khalifa. They have nothing to be proud about so they no longer feel connected to the land they live on.

It is very different with us, we have a big land and population, strong army, semi autonomous govt which is elected democratically. We are not a puny silly little Arab theocracy run like a colony. We are much more than that, lets start believing in that again.
 
Completely agree with him...Taliban aik mindset ka naam hai.

Our country will suffer one year down the line when our 'peace talks' honeymoon comes crashing...

As for Raza Abidi, he always has been a straight forward person so have been most other Urdu Speakers, those folks have a very convincing accent which further reinforces their opinion.

But then on the flipside, bhai jan aap nay kia kiya 5 saal main? Achar hi dala...
 
these guys can only talk crap and should I tell who started this crap it was shia by the help of Iran than Sunnis rose and hit back and became more powerful so stop posting crap @mafiya other wise shias will be exposed more

Completely agree with him...Taliban aik mindset ka naam hai.

Our country will suffer one year down the line when our 'peace talks' honeymoon comes crashing...

As for Raza Abidi, he always has been a straight forward person so have been most other Urdu Speakers, those folks have a very convincing accent which further reinforces their opinion.

But then on the flipside, bhai jan aap nay kia kiya 5 saal main? Achar hi dala...
you will have no other option than to them again and again
 
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propaganda! i refrain from giving my opinion on a shia forum.

That mindset destroyed Pakistan. Wakeup just as the WOT is our own so the reality is arab regimes interference has crossed the limits called red line.

Don't go blaming, most of the judiciary is sunni right? they let go each and every terrorist and they had hit back every time after the release.
 
PPP is starting to do their their part of being an "opposition" in front of the media just like what Nawaz was during the last 5 years and under table all are happily joining hands and sharing the loot and aid as usual. Starting publicity stunts from now for the next elections. I would not be surprised if someone big from PPP will be killed during the coming 5 years to get votes for the next elections.

On Federal level PPP goes comes PML N, PML N goes comes PPP. And in the provinces same parties rule and and again and in cities it is no different. This time KPK did bring a change and broke the sequence which is a good thing.

If he talks about religion tell him where were his Shia malvees from giving fatwas against Zardari that voting for corrupt people is haraam? Where were the sunni malvees from giving fatwa that giving votes to any corrupt person is haraam. Behind closed doors all Sunni and Shia maulvees in government are laughing at the stupidity of the common man who he is fooled again and again.

Tell him where are these clauses of constitution from being implemented during their recent tenure and previous tenures? Which one clause mentioned below is being implemented in Pakistan in it's true meaning?

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18th ammendmetn 2010
"25A. Right to education:
The State shall provide free and compulsory education to all children of the age of five to sixteen years in such manner as may be determined by law."
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PART IX
Islamic Provisions
227
(3) Nothing in this Part shall affect the personal laws of non- Muslim citizens or their status as citizens.

227. Provisions relating to the Holy Qur'an and Sunnah.
(1) All existing laws shall be brought in conformity with the Injunctions of Islam as laid down in the Holy Quran and Sunnah, in this Part referred to as the Injunctions of Islam, and no law shall be enacted which is repugnant to such Injunctions.

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PART II
Fundamental Rights and Principles of Policy

Chapter 1. FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS

9. Security of person.
No person shall be deprived of life or liberty save in accordance with law.

[10A. Right to fair trial:
For the determination of his civil rights and obligations or in any criminal charge against him a person shall be entitled to a fair trial and due process.]

22. Safeguards as to educational institutions in respect of religion, etc.
(1) No person attending any educational institution shall be required to receive religious instruction, or take part in any religious ceremony, or attend religious worship, if such instruction, ceremony or worship relates to a religion other than his own.

25. Equality of citizens.
(1) All citizens are equal before law and are entitled to equal protection of law.

[25A. Right to education:
The State shall provide free and compulsory education to all children of the age of five to sixteen years in such manner as may be determined by law.]


PART II (contd)
Fundamental Rights and Principles of Policy
CHAPTER 2. PRINCIPLES OF POLICY

37. Promotion of social justice and eradication of social evils.
The State shall:

(b) remove illiteracy and provide free and compulsory secondary education within minimum possible period;

(e) make provision for securing just and humane conditions of work, ensuring that children and women are not employed in vocations unsuited to their age or sex, and for maternity benefits for women in employment;

38. Promotion of social and economic well-being of the people.
The State shall :
(a) secure the well-being of the people, irrespective of sex, caste, creed or race, by raising their standard of living, by preventing the concentration of wealth and means of production and distribution in the hands of a few to the detriment of general interest and by ensuring equitable adjustment of rights between employers and employees, and landlords and tenants;
(b) provide for all citizens, within the available resources of the country, facilities for work and adequate livelihood with reasonable rest and leisure;
(c) provide for all persons employed in the service of Pakistan or otherwise, social security by compulsory social insurance or other means;
(d) provide basic necessities of life, such as food, clothing. housing, education and medical relief, for all such citizens, irrespective of sex, caste, creed or race, as are permanently or temporarily unable to earn their livelihood on account of infirmity, sickness or unemployment;

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As for the killing people of any sect where is the implementation of the clause of the constitution which states that the government should facilitate teaching Arabic for the understanding of Islam. Well if they do it then who will give the politicians votes and how will the dogs or thugs call what ever you want (malvees) earn their livelihood. Well they are implementing the constitution to make sure malvees do earn their livelihood (by twisting and turning the religion as and when they like and play with the common man).
 
propaganda! i refrain from giving my opinion on a shia forum.

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Gave me goosebumps .

This speech was from the heart , not a practiced speech on a parcha which our politicians peddle day in and day out .

And i was heart broken that such videos and messages are being recorded where they are throwing kids and women in river .

For What ??

Because they are of Different Sect ??


Land of Pakistan Long ago gave birth to the likes of Bulleh Shah and Land of India waris Shah .

Bulleh shah once said

"Mandir dha de , masjid Dha de , dha de sab kuch jo disda ,
Par kisi ka dil na dhawen , rab dilaa wich wasda ""

Today if he was alive he would have been killed .

Waris shah was born in sheikhupura modernday Pakistan.. not indian punjab... any how i agree with the rest of your post.
 
these guys can only talk crap and should I tell who started this crap it was shia by the help of Iran than Sunnis rose and hit back and became more powerful so stop posting crap @mafiya other wise shias will be exposed more

Yes from kohistan to baluchistan... its evil shias killing and beheading sunnis.
 
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