Exploit strategic location: Hillary to Bangladesh

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Exploit strategic location: Hillary to Bangladesh

Exploit strategic location: Hillary to Bangladesh

Last Updated: Sunday, May 06, 2012, 16:15
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Exploit strategic location: Hillary to Bangladesh Dhaka: Asking Bangladesh to exploit its "strategic location", US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Sunday said the political geography of the country, which is situated between "rapidly progressing" India and China, gave it an opportunity for development.

"China is surely the most developed developing country (and) India also is rapidly progressing ... You are strategically situated between China and India," she said at a dialogue with Bangladeshi youths before wrapping up her two-day Dhaka visit.

Hillary appreciated Bangladesh the way it handled the maritime issue with Myanmar and for its handling of bilateral issues with India, saying "it is very smart" and exactly the way the issues should be dealt with.

She also suggested that Dhaka exploit its economic opportunities in Myanmar, saying "the transition in Burma after 40 years of military rule is an opportunity for you".

With its powerful political parties, Bangladesh was on "right path" of democracy, while stronger demands by people could keep it on the right track, the top US diplomat said.

"You are in democratic route, though (it is) messy but democratic process could be messy. You have strong political parties," she said.

She said the people of the country being backed by stronger civil societies, should wage a greater campaign to ensure the political parties deliver the right things as abuse of power was the biggest problems in developing countries.

"Every (political) leader has to be asked are you in politics for yourself or for the people? ... This should not be asked by journalists (alone) but by millions of people."

Bangladesh witnessed the return of democracy after two years of military backed interim government in 2008. It is now experiencing political tensions over electoral system. When a student sought her reaction about a perception that the United States was against Islam, Hillary said she was deeply hurt by the charge as she staunchly defended her country's record in protecting minorities.

"It's a painful perception to hear about and I deeply regret that anyone believes that or propagates it ... It hurts me so much," she said.

The US Secretary of State, however, acknowledged that "unfortunately" there could be discriminations in the United States like anywhere in the world as "human nature does not change dramatically”.

"There is discrimination against people of different religions, of different races, of different ethnic groups all over the world ... But I don't think that it is at all fair to hold up the United States (over discrimination)," Hillary said.

"I believe that the United States through our laws and through our constant political dialogue has gone probably farther than anywhere else in the world in trying to guarantee legal protections for people."

Hillary's 24-hour visit to Bangladesh is part of an Asia tour that started in China and will conclude in India, where US officials want assurances that New Delhi is taking strong action to cut oil imports from Iran.

Hillary, who earlier visited Bangladesh in 1995 as US First Lady, today said the country had made impressive strides in growing its economy, combating poverty, improving agricultural productivity and reducing maternal and child mortality.

PTI

 

[Ignited Mind]

Bangladesh has a very important advantage other than its location.

Bangladesh has a very moderate non-extremist society and a more or less secular state.

Bangladesh should build on its human resource and educate them, train them and use their efforts to propel the country forward. A prosperous, secular, democratic and modern Bangladesh is in India's interest.

 

[TopCat]

Bangladesh has a very important advantage other than its location.

Bangladesh has a very moderate non-extremist society and a more or less secular state.

Bangladesh should build on its human resource and educate them, train them and use their efforts to propel the country forward. A prosperous, secular, democratic and modern Bangladesh is in India's interest.

Suddenly I noticed your avatar... thats funny man.. made my day.

 

[idune]

Source PTI, amplyfying what indian wants. And for US, they run Bangladesh policy thrigh Delhi so Clinton will state indian wishes. No surprise there. Note how US Secretary of State did not say anything about indian border killings, did not sy anything about indian water terrorism. That goes to show my point - US runs its Bangladesh policy through Delhi. As far as Bangladesh concern US and india should be treated in same bracket and in same axis. What US is push Bangladesh to do is self destructive path as a nation and that can never be a choice.

 

[eastwatch]

Exploit strategic location: Hillary to Bangladesh

Exploit strategic location: Hillary to Bangladesh

Last Updated: Sunday, May 06, 2012, 16:15
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Tags: Bangladesh, Hillary Clinton, Dhaka

Exploit strategic location: Hillary to Bangladesh Dhaka: Asking Bangladesh to exploit its "strategic location", US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Sunday said the political geography of the country, which is situated between "rapidly progressing" India and China, gave it an opportunity for development.

"China is surely the most developed developing country (and) India also is rapidly progressing ... You are strategically situated between China and India," she said at a dialogue with Bangladeshi youths before wrapping up her two-day Dhaka visit.

Hillary appreciated Bangladesh the way it handled the maritime issue with Myanmar and for its handling of bilateral issues with India, saying "it is very smart" and exactly the way the issues should be dealt with.

She also suggested that Dhaka exploit its economic opportunities in Myanmar, saying "the transition in Burma after 40 years of military rule is an opportunity for you".

I have been sending post after post for the past few years in the PDF that BD's unique geographical location has made it very important, only to be rebuffed by the bigmouth Indians. Now, at least I am happy that my view is being endorsed by none other than Hillary Clinton. The jealous poor Indians should come out with big processions in all their big cities to protest her assertion about their small neighbour Bangladesh.

Remember Indians, today or tomorrow, Bangladesh economic might will surpass that of India. Our living standard and also Pakistan's are much higher, at present, than the Indian one, though.

 

[IndoUS]

I have been sending post after post for the past few years in the PDF that BD's unique geographical location has made it very important, only to be rebuffed by the bigmouth Indians. Now, at least I am happy that my view is being endorsed by none other than Hillary Clinton. The jealous poor Indians should come out with big processions in all their big cities to protest her assertion about their small neighbour Bangladesh.

Remember Indians, today or tomorrow, Bangladesh economic might will surpass that of India. Our living standard and also Pakistan's are much higher, at present, than the Indian one, though.

And you also realize that India has a much larger population and landmass than Bangladesh and Pakistan.

 

[eastwatch]

And you also realize that India has a much larger population and landmass than Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Yes, I am aware of India's landmass and population. But, India is infested with Jatpat and other social evils. This can also be seen on the factory floors. India is too big to be developed by the central govt planning. But, the GoI does not allow decentralization. On the other hand, BD is small and homogeneous with one language.

The two factors you have mentioned are not enough to take India to the front seat of progress. Think of Japan, its GDP is $5 trillion with a population of 140 million, while, India's is only $1.2 trillion with a population of 1200 million. Think of England. It has much higher GDP than India while the population figure is much smaller than India. So, only bigger population and land mass do not necessarily guarantee a larger economy.

Nationalism is very important for a country. We have more nationalism than the Indians because we have been exploited by the non-Bangali Pakistanis and now being bullied daily by the Indians. This has become a component to build up a strong nationalism in Bangladesh. Since we have already started to build up our country's economy, there will be a time when our's will surpass that of Pakistan, then the India's, and our next target will be the economy of England.

The last country had enslaved our people for about two centuries, and had made us landless peasants with the help of our enighbouring society. We must take over them, too. So, India is our immediate target, but, England will be our final target. This dream will certainly come true, because in our effort towards our economic goal countries like USA and Japan have shown willingness to lend their assistance.

 

[IndoUS]

Yes, I am aware of India's landmass and population. But, India is infested with Jatpat and other social evils. This can also be seen on the factory floors. India is too big to be developed by the central govt planning. But, the GoI does not allow decentralization. On the other hand, BD is small and homogeneous with one language.

The two factors you have mentioned are not enough to take India to the front seat of progress. Think of Japan, its GDP is $5 trillion with a population of 140 million, while, India's is only $1.2 trillion with a population of 1200 million. Think of England. It has much higher GDP than India while the population figure is much smaller than India. So, only bigger population and land mass do not necessarily guarantee a larger economy.

Nationalism is very important for a country. We have more nationalism than the Indians because we have been exploited by the non-Bangali Pakistanis and now being bullied daily by the Indians. This has become a component to build up a strong nationalism in Bangladesh. Since we have already started to build up our country's economy, there will be a time when our's will surpass that of Pakistan, then the India's, and our next target will be the economy of England.

The last country had enslaved our people for about two centuries, and had made us landless peasants with the help of our enighbouring society. We must take over them, too. So, India is our immediate target, but, England will be our final target. This dream will certainly come true, because in our effort towards our economic goal countries like USA and Japan have shown willingness to lend their assistance.

Then you should also look into the history of Japan, US and England and is how they became developed. If you have studies US history then you will find out that the problems India and China are facing were once faced by US. They had child labor issues religious issues, ,and what not. The issue is not the population, each and every country is born differently. Since the birth India has been affected by wars and by religious strife, it is not till now that most of the problem have started to calm down. As economy grows and people are pulled out of poverty, they start to understand the meaning of religious freedom and their basic rights. China is the best example of this even though they went through all the wars and troubles they still came out as winners, today they are the second biggest economy and are growing they are also solving all their problem, they are a great role model for India.

 

[khabib]

Lets say withdrawing the water from upstream, boarder killing, supplying arms to anti-bangladesh insurgents all are interest to
India but goes against the interest of Bangladesh.

Bangladesh has a very important advantage other than its location.

Bangladesh has a very moderate non-extremist society and a more or less secular state.

Bangladesh should build on its human resource and educate them, train them and use their efforts to propel the country forward. A prosperous, secular, democratic and modern Bangladesh is in India's interest.

Lets say withdrawing the water from upstream, boarder killing, supplying arms to anti-bangladesh insurgents all are interest to
India but goes against the interest of Bangladesh.

 

[eastwatch]

Blah blah blah. Cut the crap please. Bangladesh is just another dirt poor country with no hope and will remain like this for decades to come. Your per capita income is around $690 , half that of India and lesser than most african countries. By the time bangladesh can be called developed , the world would probably be on a different planet. You people have nothing . You have a tiny country with 0 natural resources. Human resources who can only be criminals and jute farmers
As for your stupid argument about your amazing "strategic position".
1)Your landmass is tiny which means after like 20-30 years , you people will struggle to fit your massive population and your country will have to beg for land from other countries.
2) We can cut water to your country any time and bring it to its knees.
3) You are surrounded on all three sides by India, which brings with it all sorts of disadvantages.
4) Your shoreline is tiny and can easily be cut from the world through a small naval blockade.

You are so dumb you don't even understand what Hillary said. She was merely stating that you lie in close proximity to 2 emerging economic powers and can somehow benefit from it to develop your dirt poor country. And here we have delusional bangladeshis like you dreaming of grandeur and what not

I have neglected your personal attack But, note the folowing. A country's FM does not come to a country and expresses things of military strategy in an open meeting. For your benefit I request you to check the map. You will see China is a neighbour that lies almost 6,000 km from BD. It is because the zone between these countries is under Indian control.

But, think militarily. BD is in a position of tilting the result of a China-India war either way. It is not by its military might. It is by refusing or agreeing to Indian transport of military logistics through its land during a war. This is the thing Hillary was implying by saying words like strategy.

See the map and you will find almost all the countries of ASEAN have common border with China. If it is only trade and business, instead of coming to BD, Hillary would have visited those countries and said about trade. In case of foreign diplomacy people must learn how to read between the lines. That is how the true implications of a statement are understood. 　　　

 

[Zabaniyah]

Her assessments are very accurate.

But in order to fully implement that potential, there needs to be commitment from the top levels of business, politics and society within Bangladesh.

Bangladesh has a lot of potential, no doubt about it. But the thing is no one is committing toward that. Seeing from the current affairs in messy politics of Bangladesh, it'll take generations or maybe never to implement that.

It's also a nice boost to the morale of Bangladeshi youth in a country where disappointment is nearly always a daily experience.

 

[Agni5000]

China has border with bangladesh.................??

 

[kalu_miah]

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[Mo12]

Source PTI, amplyfying what indian wants. And for US, they run Bangladesh policy thrigh Delhi so Clinton will state indian wishes. No surprise there. Note how US Secretary of State did not say anything about indian border killings, did not sy anything about indian water terrorism. That goes to show my point - US runs its Bangladesh policy through Delhi. As far as Bangladesh concern US and india should be treated in same bracket and in same axis. What US is push Bangladesh to do is self destructive path as a nation and that can never be a choice.

LOL This guy is talking as if he knows everything and think he some PM of Bangladesh.

Yes, I am aware of India's landmass and population. But, India is infested with Jatpat and other social evils. This can also be seen on the factory floors. India is too big to be developed by the central govt planning. But, the GoI does not allow decentralization. On the other hand, BD is small and homogeneous with one language.

The two factors you have mentioned are not enough to take India to the front seat of progress. Think of Japan, its GDP is $5 trillion with a population of 140 million, while, India's is only $1.2 trillion with a population of 1200 million. Think of England. It has much higher GDP than India while the population figure is much smaller than India. So, only bigger population and land mass do not necessarily guarantee a larger economy.

Nationalism is very important for a country. We have more nationalism than the Indians because we have been exploited by the non-Bangali Pakistanis and now being bullied daily by the Indians. This has become a component to build up a strong nationalism in Bangladesh. Since we have already started to build up our country's economy, there will be a time when our's will surpass that of Pakistan, then the India's, and our next target will be the economy of England.

The last country had enslaved our people for about two centuries, and had made us landless peasants with the help of our enighbouring society. We must take over them, too. So, India is our immediate target, but, England will be our final target. This dream will certainly come true, because in our effort towards our economic goal countries like USA and Japan have shown willingness to lend their assistance.

You can't compare GDP per capita of a developing nation to a developed nation.

Your Economics is very poor, your education in Bangladesh must of been sub standard, when talking about population and GDP, its called GDP per capita.

And India has a bigger GDP per capita then Bangladesh. So HAHAHAHA

 

[kalu_miah]

Exploit strategic location: Hillary to Bangladesh

Exploit strategic location: Hillary to Bangladesh

Exploit strategic location: Hillary to Bangladesh Dhaka: Asking Bangladesh to exploit its "strategic location", US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Sunday said the political geography of the country, which is situated between "rapidly progressing" India and China, gave it an opportunity for development.

"China is surely the most developed developing country (and) India also is rapidly progressing ... You are strategically situated between China and India," she said at a dialogue with Bangladeshi youths before wrapping up her two-day Dhaka visit.

Hillary appreciated Bangladesh the way it handled the maritime issue with Myanmar and for its handling of bilateral issues with India, saying "it is very smart" and exactly the way the issues should be dealt with.

She also suggested that Dhaka exploit its economic opportunities in Myanmar, saying "the transition in Burma after 40 years of military rule is an opportunity for you".

With its powerful political parties, Bangladesh was on "right path" of democracy, while stronger demands by people could keep it on the right track, the top US diplomat said.

"You are in democratic route, though (it is) messy but democratic process could be messy. You have strong political parties," she said.

She said the people of the country being backed by stronger civil societies, should wage a greater campaign to ensure the political parties deliver the right things as abuse of power was the biggest problems in developing countries.

"Every (political) leader has to be asked are you in politics for yourself or for the people? ... This should not be asked by journalists (alone) but by millions of people."
......

Hillary, who earlier visited Bangladesh in 1995 as US First Lady, today said the country had made impressive strides in growing its economy, combating poverty, improving agricultural productivity and reducing maternal and child mortality.

PTI

Lets see if we can understand the meaning of what Hilary said.

We have borders with India, but we also have border with Myanmar, which gives us a land route to Kunming, China, independent of our border with India. Myanmar is opening up and Hilary is hoping that Myanmar and Bangladesh will work on their mutual road network so Bangladesh can take advantage of "economic opportunities" in Myanmar as it opens up further, along with other countries of the world and Asia. Since we already have and can have short land routes to both India and China, it means that Bangladesh economy, like Myanmar, is in the unique position of leveraging these two economies for its benefit, and I think it is a valid point. While Bangladesh is closer to India and have to go through Myanmar to reach China, Myanmar is close to China and has to go through the more cost economic route to India through Bangladesh.

Now here is something interesting. When we give a transit route to India, India will use this route to not only reach NE states, but also to connect with Myanmar and other ASEAN states, where Bangladesh will be competing for influence. Considering this scenario of competition, I think the transit looks like a very bad strategic decision for Bangladesh. I think it will be better for Bangladesh to not give any transit and rather develop our own route to Myanmar and beyond to China and other ASEAN nations. India of course has its own route to NE states via Assam and via Sittwe port in Myanmar. We need your input on this from Bangladeshi members. As I look at it more carefully, I think giving transit to Bangladesh is going to be bad for us in every way. Having our fair share of water is our right under international laws, but I believe giving transit to India is a privilege which we can revoke at any time, if it is against our national interest.

I don't think she was talking about war between China and India and what role Bangladesh would play in it. There is very little possibility of such a war, the probability is close to zero.

She mentioned about democracy taking root in Bangladesh, but I am sure she knows how this democracy is quite hollow, as political parties are actually bought and paid for by outside powers. Nevertheless, as in all functioning democracies, there is room to improve through ballot box, if vote rigging can be kept under control.

In any case, she mentioned a lot of positive things about Bangladesh and it sounded like a speech for boosting morale. But as mentioned in another thread, the trip was probably about US firms getting involved in gas and oil exploration in Bangladesh EEZ in Bay of Bengal and the TICFA signing, along with a few other issues.

Now containing China and reducing Chinese defense and strategic influence in the region is of course another US goal. For that it has good relationship with Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Japan, Korea and other ASEAN countries. This short sighted policy will fail, like many other stupid geopolitics incompetent policy wonks in Washington came up with earlier. The US is declining and China is rising, so eventually everyone in the region know that US will not be there eventually to protect their back. So I am sure everyone is looking for and weighing their long term options. I would consider ASEAN+ one such option, as it solves the long term security and balance of power conundrum for all the countries that are included in it.