Expansionist India – by Jonathan Chu, Singapore

[kvpak]

I have no idea WHY they want to steal all these territories

To plunder the wealth earned by the hard work and education of southern and western South asia (Tamilnadu, Andhra, Kerala, Telengana, Karnataka, Mahjarashtra).

Billions of Rupees (10s of 1000s of Rupees are transferreds from these states to Hindu states. Without this wealth the Hindi states would have the standard of living of some of the poorest African countries and their army will have First World War weapons.

The idea of dravidian independence is laughable.

Dravida Nadu is as fake as India. What do you think of independent Tamil Nadu?

 

[rott]

The Chinese Government should put a restriction on Indians who tends to travel and stay in China.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

Ulta chor kotval Ko dantae

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

I wonder if he has read my book ...

#TheIndiaDoctrine https://goo.gl/WjKW2l

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Kind sir,

What is the synopsis of your book?

If you could put it here at PDF, one is certain, it will foster a better understanding.

And do you think that your BD is in the process of becoming part of 'soft' confederation with india?..

Many thanks.

With kind regards,

SPF

 

[Max]

True. India is not safe for women, Muslims, Christians and lower caste .and Dalits. Get out of there ASAP.

@The Eagle @waz does this comment deserve negative rating when many countries are saying bharat is not safe for women and Obama lectured them on minority rights?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...dia-womens-rights-religious-intolerance-delhi

 

[Rajkumar]

Jonathan Chu ​

 

[Trichy]

To plunder the wealth earned by the hard work and education of southern and western South asia (Tamilnadu, Andhra, Kerala, Telengana, Karnataka, Mahjarashtra).

Billions of Rupees (10s of 1000s of Rupees are transferreds from these states to Hindu states. Without this wealth the Hindi states would have the standard of living of some of the poorest African countries and their army will have First World War weapons.

ha ha ha, India is a HINDU STATE, BARATH (BARATHAM)


unna mathiri porampoku yapadida theriyum?

Dravida Nadu is as fake as India. What do you think of independent Tamil Nadu?

tamil lee theriyathu ithula evaru tamil naduku independence vangitharaporanaam, nalla kettukonga tamil makkalee

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

India was not created in 1947 and that too by British . Seriously who calls these people scholars and experts

Geographically and culturally India is one of the oldest entities . Political unity is an overrated criteria to judge nations .

 

[The Eagle]

@The Eagle @waz does this comment deserve negative rating when many countries are saying bharat is not safe for women and Obama lectured them on minority rights?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...dia-womens-rights-religious-intolerance-delhi

@was @The Eagle @Horus

Please remove the negative rating from this post as my post in no different from other post in the thread.

Kindly contact GHQ Section for discussion w.r.t. any fraction or negative rating and avoid open thread discussion regarding the same.

Thanks.

 

[faithfulguy]

India was not created in 1947 and that too by British . Seriously who calls these people scholars and experts

Geographically and culturally India is one of the oldest entities . Political unity is an overrated criteria to judge nations .

A nation is defined by a government with its borders. India has none prior to British created one for India. Prior to that, it was a geographical expression like Arabia or Balkans.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

A nation is defined by a government with its borders. India has none prior to British created one for India. Prior to that, it was a geographical expression like Arabia or Balkans.

Nations are made by people , Countries are made by political borders . From 1600 till battle of Plassey Mughals were central authority in India and EIC like other companies from Europe were traders . From 1757 till first war of independence EIC began its conquest which ended with first war of independence of India and crown rule in 1857 . 90 years later India got independence .

Read these words carefully , India got independence in 1947 . It no where says India was created in 1947 except for the communist textbooks and authors .

 

[faithfulguy]

Nations are made by people , Countries are made by political borders . From 1600 till battle of Plassey Mughals were central authority in India and EIC like other companies from Europe were traders . From 1757 till first war of independence EIC began its conquest which ended with first war of independence of India and crown rule in 1857 . 90 years later India got independence .

Read these words carefully , India got independence in 1947 . It no where says India was created in 1947 except for the communist textbooks and authors .

Indians has no sense of nation, of being one people until British colonialization of India.

Take a look at this Battles fought in 17th and 18th century-
1757- Battle of Plassey- war between siraj-ud-daulah ( nawab of Bengal) and East India Company (EIC) helped by Mir Jafar.
1766-1st Anglo Mysore war- between Haider Ali( Mysore) and EIC helped by Nizam of Hyderabad.
1775- 1st Anglo Maratha war- between madav Rao II peshawe(pune) and EIC helped by Raghunath Rao.
1782-2nd Anglo Mysore war- between Haider Ali and EIC helped by Nizam and Marathas.
The most decisive battle, which changed the fate of India , was 3rd battle of Panipat- fought between Marathas and Ahmad shah Abdali( Afghan ruler) supported by Najib khan(Rohilakhand) and shuja-ud-daulah( Awadh) in 1761. The maratha army was completely routed. Their defeat gave an opportunity to English EIC to consolidate its power in Bengal and South India. In fact, the third battle of Panipat did not decide who was to rule India but rather who was not. The way was, therefore, cleared for rise of British power in India.
If there is feeling if nationalism among the people of India, then one state of India would have helped other Indian state against any foreigner enemy. But the bitter truth here was that, not only they didn't helped their native state but they also joined hands with the foreigners against other Indian state for their personal greed.
Well upto 1857, there was absence of spirit of political nationalism among the people of India. This was because India at that time lacked the elements which constitute modern nation. The people of India did not feel they were all Indians, nor they conscious of oneness, even though elements of cultural unity had existed in country for centuries. Therefore, there did not exist the ideal living and dying for one's nation. Instead people were loyal to persons, tribes, castes and religious sector.

 

[punit]

the writer needs a T !!

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

Indians has no sense of nation, of being one people until British colonialization of India.

Take a look at this Battles fought in 17th and 18th century-
1757- Battle of Plassey- war between siraj-ud-daulah ( nawab of Bengal) and East India Company (EIC) helped by Mir Jafar.
1766-1st Anglo Mysore war- between Haider Ali( Mysore) and EIC helped by Nizam of Hyderabad.
1775- 1st Anglo Maratha war- between madav Rao II peshawe(pune) and EIC helped by Raghunath Rao.
1782-2nd Anglo Mysore war- between Haider Ali and EIC helped by Nizam and Marathas.
The most decisive battle, which changed the fate of India , was 3rd battle of Panipat- fought between Marathas and Ahmad shah Abdali( Afghan ruler) supported by Najib khan(Rohilakhand) and shuja-ud-daulah( Awadh) in 1761. The maratha army was completely routed. Their defeat gave an opportunity to English EIC to consolidate its power in Bengal and South India. In fact, the third battle of Panipat did not decide who was to rule India but rather who was not. The way was, therefore, cleared for rise of British power in India.
If there is feeling if nationalism among the people of India, then one state of India would have helped other Indian state against any foreigner enemy. But the bitter truth here was that, not only they didn't helped their native state but they also joined hands with the foreigners against other Indian state for their personal greed.
Well upto 1857, there was absence of spirit of political nationalism among the people of India. This was because India at that time lacked the elements which constitute modern nation. The people of India did not feel they were all Indians, nor they conscious of oneness, even though elements of cultural unity had existed in country for centuries. Therefore, there did not exist the ideal living and dying for one's nation. Instead people were loyal to persons, tribes, castes and religious sector.

Well there is some truth to it .
History books do tell nationalism only appeared after 1857 but that was more politically oriented nationalism . Mines is a cultural nationalism which extends the political boundaries that change every now and then .

Political nationalism or nation states is a modern concept .

 

[kvpak]

negative rating

How do I give negative rating to a pos. There are several posts deserving it.

From 1600 till battle of Plassey Mughals were central authority in India

It is true if you define "India" as what we call North India today.

first war of independence of India and crown rule in 1857

Call it first war of indepoendence of NORTH India. Not a single soldier from South of Vindhyas participated.

History books do tell nationalism only appeared after 1857 but that was more politically oriented nationalism

As noted above not a single soldier from south of Vindyas participated in this 1857 mutiny. So there is no "Indian nationalism" in Southern South Asia