Exclusive: Responding to a dangerous time

[T-Rex]

To a certain extent after 9/11 Pakistan came under pressure, add to that India has invested heavily to stop cross border infiltration major reasons why there are only 200 odd terrorists left in the valley

Whatever is going on now is homegrown and it is not possible for 200 odd freedom fighters to do all that.

Baluchistan is not Indian soil, neither we have any Pakistani terror group like TTP etc operating from Indian soil

Of course Baluchistan is not indian soil, it's just that RAW spreads terrorism in Baluchistan.

True, India may have been funding or helping terror groups covertly, but we are not very good at it. Now the time has come to do it overtly and aggressively

It's a foregone conclusion that india funds terrorism in neighbouring states, so you might as well do it openly, at least it'll cut your costs.

 

[Green Ranger]

last time when india was barking to much , Gen Mush went for a standoff and India Chickened out , although Stand off cost lot of money but it does the job

Full scale war is not good for both countries , a stand off what is needed to cool off these dogs at india

 

[R Wing]

To a certain extent after 9/11 Pakistan came under pressure, add to that India has invested heavily to stop cross border infiltration major reasons why there are only 200 odd terrorists left in the valley


Baluchistan is not Indian soil, neither we have any Pakistani terror group like TTP etc operating from Indian soil



47,65,71,99 we don't want a war but if we are left with no option then war be it but mind you it will be the last option. I believe there will be many options before that. eg: Scrape the IWT



True, India may have been funding or helping terror groups covertly, but we are not very good at it. Now the time has come to do it overtly and aggressively



I never said that Baluchistan is Bangladesh, the aim is not liberation of Baluchistan the aim is just payback when 18 of our soldiers are killed by Pakistani elements then we should have the capability to retaliate in the same coin in Baluchistan or elsewhere

You sound like a sensible guy. I just want to address a few things you mentioned:
1.) India supporting terror groups covertly but not very good at it.
You are reasonably good at it --- unfortunately the ones you support have killed a lot of innocent civilians.

2.) TTP/Baloch terror groups not operating from Indian soil.
I think we can agree that the key thing is support --- financial, logistical, whatever. The terror group can be based on the Moon; as long as it's getting support from one country that allows it to kill people in another country, it's a problem!

3.) Revenge capability.
I think one can argue that it's there --- because TTP / Baloch terrorists have killed a lot of our soldiers too.

If only countries could attack and then take revenge on the people (leaders, politicians, generals, whoever) who orchestrate these things directly, innocents wouldn't die. Intel wars are pretty terrible from a moral perspective.

Hope peace prevails!

 

[ConcealCarry]

Terrorist modi who killed thousands of innocent in his own country and state tried the peace route with Pakistan by appointing ajit doval, the man directly involved in terrorism in Pakistan as his NSA? That's a good stuff you smoke mate

All I can say is interesting times ahead, Modi tried the peace route he failed miserably and I believe he has understood it. Now change in tactics, I don't believe a surgical strike is coming (Modi is too smart for that) any militarily strike (if done, and believe me if IA gets a free hand they will do it) will be done covertly, also the gloves are off and the 'you-kill-us' and 'we-kill-you' game which we have been playing since long will reach new heights now

 

[Fireurimagination]

You sound like a sensible guy. I just want to address a few things you mentioned:
1.) India supporting terror groups covertly but not very good at it.
You are reasonably good at it --- unfortunately the ones you support have killed a lot of innocent civilians.

2.) TTP/Baloch terror groups not operating from Indian soil.
I think we can agree that the key thing is support --- financial, logistical, whatever. The terror group can be based on the Moon; as long as it's getting support from one country that allows it to kill people in another country, it's a problem!

3.) Revenge capability.
I think one can argue that it's there --- because TTP / Baloch terrorists have killed a lot of our soldiers too.

If only countries could attack and then take revenge on the people (leaders, politicians, generals, whoever) who orchestrate these things directly, innocents wouldn't die. Intel wars are pretty terrible from a moral perspective.

Hope peace prevails!

Well even if India is successfully funding and using TTP / Baloch terrorists to strike back in Pakistan, the thing is they do it very covertly and nobody knows about it in India, thus the thinking on the ground is that we are taking hit after hit and are unable to retaliate. Thus probably they will now do it overtly (Modi has started using Baluchistan as a counter narrative to Kashmir, not sure to which length they are willing to take it)

Terrorist modi who killed thousands of innocent in his own country and state tried the peace route with Pakistan by appointing ajit doval, the man directly involved in terrorism in Pakistan as his NSA? That's a good stuff you smoke mate

Peace suits India, India doesn't want to change the status-quo desperately. India just need to achieve it's goal of peace in Kashmir, it can be done by talks and give and take or by making the proxy war too costly for Pakistan. Trust me Modi would have preferred the first route as it would have been lot easier and he tried it with Nawaz but that's not happening as Nawaz is not really the center of power, so now it's plan B more mayhem both in India and Pakistan

 

[tarrar]

If GOD forbid war does start, it is going to be on both fronts. Afghanistan will surely try its very best to escalate tension on Pak Afghan border in case of war.

 

[R Wing]

Well even if India is successfully funding and using TTP / Baloch terrorists to strike back in Pakistan, the thing is they do it very covertly and nobody knows about it in India, thus the thinking on the ground is that we are taking hit after hit and are unable to retaliate. Thus probably they will now do it overtly (Modi has started using Baluchistan as a counter narrative to Kashmir, not sure to which length they are willing to take it)



Peace suits India, India doesn't want to change the status-quo desperately. India just need to achieve it's goal of peace in Kashmir, it can be done by talks and give and take or by making the proxy war too costly for Pakistan. Trust me Modi would have preferred the first route as it would have been lot easier and he tried it with Nawaz but that's not happening as Nawaz is not really the center of power, so now it's plan B more mayhem both in India and Pakistan

Solid points --- this is one of the reasons why it's so dangerous to be caught up in your own rhetoric (i.e. Indians buy into the international media image that the US allows India to enjoy).

Just hoping cooler heads prevail and the loss of innocent life is curtailed.