Excl: US proposed guarding Bangladesh Border against terror & Indian Threat

[LaBong]

Indians are freaked out even with a fart... what will happen when they see the US soldiers guarding our border along with BDR? LOL

Indians will be the happiest persons knowing a competent force will guraf the border. International border should not be left for an incompetent force like bdr to guard.

 

[PlanetSoldier]

The presence of US definitely is much needed. Indians BSF's firing in our border made it easy to drag them in. We do understand our requirement than other nations. Its time to hit back BSF.

Are you on your feet now, you completely sound coward now? To face bsf beasts we don't need foreign troops rather a strong Bangladeshi leadership. Talk to a BDR guy, they are never scared of those beasts even I believe our Ansar is good enough to fight them..BDR is not necessary . 160 million people should have their own capability to fight its enemy and if we have to depend on others for own security, definitely we Bangladeshi have become an impotent nation. We can have our friends' support, doesn't mean their presence to protect us.

 

[surya kiran]

Dividing this into 2 parts.

Part I - Indo-Us Angle.
As per the new American strategy, its not power projection by themselves. They identify partners in regions, with whom they increase co-operation through joint exercises.

Guess how many military exercises India has held with US in the 2011? 56. That's right, 56 in 2011. How many exercises just between the navies? 4 annually. Which means 1 every quarter.

Guess which navy provides security to the US Navy while passing through the Mallacca straits? You got that right. The Indian Navy. Still think their main objective is to 'monitor' India movements?

Here is an article which will substantiate what is quoted above.

You don't build relationships with the US based on 'they will give me security'. They will just use you. The only way to work with the US is start the relationship on equal terms. Insist on partnership, not on help and aid in defending your own turf.

Part II - Repercussion angle

What happens if tomorrow the mad caps enter Bangladesh, to wage war on the infidels? US enters. Militants who want to hit US outposts start operations. US leaves. Then what? Pakistan made this mistake. Now, they are repenting. Pakistan thought, India, was a major problem. Now India is not the main problem.

Be very careful what you wish for. It may actually come true.

Cheers!

 

[Kaniska]

Our independent policy is to kick the hellish Indian influence out the window.

You are welcome in your dream..

Dude...this end game was pending for long time from USA....Reason is obvious..

1- US need to control China and any power that seem to be rising out of Asia.
2- USA is not exactly a natural partner for India as Russia or could be China...Reason is if you see the trend Russia never intervened or try to control India policy that is why India and Russia relation has been going well as of now. But in case of US and India relationship, US always try to take a control of its allies and friends...Then India will not be fit into the bill in the long run...
3- Pakistan was trusted partner for US to continue its dirty game. Now the time has changed...Pakistan will not do anything dirty against China and even India too...I believe slowly both India and Pakistan will realize that its better to talk with each other rather involving US.

4- BD does not have any strategic benefit in wider scheme of things due its location. But it has another advantage of being a Muslim nation that identifies itself based on its ethnicity and language than being a Muslim...This is really significant to the liberal fascist in US.
So they might be lobbying to court BD in place of Pakistan. This will help US to reign in Myanmar, India and to some extent South Eact Asia....

5- BD policy is more towards its insecurity towards India..BD knows that China's policy is very specific about not to get involved in any other country's issues...So definitely in case of any conflict China will not provide any blanket shield against India which USA can provide.

Possible challenge for BD:

I am not sure if BD is aware about its not ...But if you allign with US the danger is not about what USA will do....Rather than that the political oppertunism played out by your own politician will do a lot of bad for your nation....

 

[PlanetSoldier]

They where supported to fight off the Russians.... they where not supported to blow themselves up and rule Afghanistan the way they choose to.

Meaning they were made to be stooges not a liberal body to persist.

 

[PlanetSoldier]

Indian BSF will think US soldiers are cow smugglers. Drunk BSF troops may shoot at them.

bsf beasts never tend to confront armed troops, all their play is with unarmed ones. They know well about armed confrontation and their fate

 

[TopCat]

You are welcome in your dream..

Dude...this end game was pending for long time from USA....Reason is obvious..

1- US need to control China and any power that seem to be rising out of Asia.
2- USA is not exactly a natural partner for India as Russia or could be China...Reason is if you see the trend Russia never intervened or try to control India policy that is why India and Russia relation has been going well as of now. But in case of US and India relationship, US always try to take a control of its allies and friends...Then India will not be fit into the bill in the long run...
3- Pakistan was trusted partner for US to continue its dirty game. Now the time has changed...Pakistan will not do anything dirty against China and even India too...I believe slowly both India and Pakistan will realize that its better to talk with each other rather involving US.

4- BD does not have any strategic benefit in wider scheme of things due its location. But it has another advantage of being a Muslim nation that identifies itself based on its ethnicity and language than being a Muslim...This is really significant to the liberal fascist in US.
So they might be lobbying to court BD in place of Pakistan. This will help US to reign in Myanmar, India and to some extent South Eact Asia....

5- BD policy is more towards its insecurity towards India..BD knows that China's policy is very specific about not to get involved in any other country's issues...So definitely in case of any conflict China will not provide any blanket shield against India which USA can provide.

Possible challenge for BD:

I am not sure if BD is aware about its not ...But if you allign with US the danger is not about what USA will do....Rather than that the political oppertunism played out by your own politician will do a lot of bad for your nation....

Thats a reasonable post.

BD population is strictly against any foreign troops presence in its soil. Anybody allows any base in this country will dig their grave by themselves. PERIOD

You are welcome in your dream..

Dude...this end game was pending for long time from USA....Reason is obvious..

1- US need to control China and any power that seem to be rising out of Asia.
2- USA is not exactly a natural partner for India as Russia or could be China...Reason is if you see the trend Russia never intervened or try to control India policy that is why India and Russia relation has been going well as of now. But in case of US and India relationship, US always try to take a control of its allies and friends...Then India will not be fit into the bill in the long run...
3- Pakistan was trusted partner for US to continue its dirty game. Now the time has changed...Pakistan will not do anything dirty against China and even India too...I believe slowly both India and Pakistan will realize that its better to talk with each other rather involving US.

4- BD does not have any strategic benefit in wider scheme of things due its location. But it has another advantage of being a Muslim nation that identifies itself based on its ethnicity and language than being a Muslim...This is really significant to the liberal fascist in US.
So they might be lobbying to court BD in place of Pakistan. This will help US to reign in Myanmar, India and to some extent South Eact Asia....

5- BD policy is more towards its insecurity towards India..BD knows that China's policy is very specific about not to get involved in any other country's issues...So definitely in case of any conflict China will not provide any blanket shield against India which USA can provide.

Possible challenge for BD:

I am not sure if BD is aware about its not ...But if you allign with US the danger is not about what USA will do....Rather than that the political oppertunism played out by your own politician will do a lot of bad for your nation....

Thats a reasonable post.

BD population is strictly against any foreign troops presence in its soil. Anybody allows any base in this country will dig their grave by themselves. PERIOD

 

[yoku]

I think US was try to fool Bangladesh. Bangladeshi borders are well protected by BSF.

 

[PlanetSoldier]

I personally do not think, USA has offered BD a physical presence of US troops along the BD border. However, a few years ago USA sent a team to survey the BD-India border. As far as I understand USA has installed some kind of listening/watching equipments across the BD-India as well as BD-Burna border.

The then US Ambassador defended this action by saying that these are to check infiltrators (read terrorists) across the border. US has also installed two radars in Kuakata and Cox's Bazaar. These the US says is to watch over the sea pirates. Well, to US and BD India itself is a pirate.

USA uses many vague and diplomatic words to camoflage its true intention. However, I believe the already installed border equipments are to check the movement of Indian and Burmese troops. The shore radars are to watch also Indian and Burmese navy movements.

Not only this, USA has installed also a number of watching equipments on Himalayan tops and in Arunachal Pradesh in order to watch over any Chinese troop movements. But, I think these are also to watch over IA troop movement. This is how the Policeman of the world polices different potential conflict zones.

Therefore, I believe, US does not intend to man our border along with BGB with a physical presence. Rather, it wants to install many more watchdog equipment posts along the border to watch over Indian troop movements.

I have reasons to believe that it was the USA who had informed BD in 2008 of the Burmese survey ships in an area which lies only 32 km SW of St. Martin. When BD sent its naval ships to the contested sea, one US navy ship has already arrived and anchored in CTG, all in the name of humanitarian assistance to the cyclone victims. But, it was too quick. It means it sailed for CTG immediately after the USA had notified BD about the Burmese activities.

We have to understand that any point in the sea is very difficult to pinpoint correctly without sophisticated aerial survey equipments. BD does not possess such equipments. But, US satellites are capable to pinpoint an X-Y co-ordinate in the sea quite accurately. This is how US came to know about Burmese movement near St. Martin which it informed immediately to the GoB. Reality is USA is already working with BD military for quite a long time.

Considering all these I am of the opinion that US wants to install many more listening posts along the BD border with India and Burma. It certainly cannot watch China from BD. To watch over China it already has a few watch posts on the Himalayan top.

Sorry for the long post. It is indeed too long. But, I thought I better share the information which I have gathered during the last few years.

So, what's the equation...along with all old fellas China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, ULFA, Maoists now USA wants some stake in new geography of india ? Recently one US official in india told that they are going to open a consulate in Tripura, are they joining China, BD and going to throw hot breath on chicken neck.....hey what do I smell now ?

 

[idune]

You are welcome in your dream..

Dude...this end game was pending for long time from USA....Reason is obvious..

So why indian establishment is getting crazy about even prospect of US involvement in Bay of Bangel? And why india stiring up anti amerricanism (not thet they had created on their own) by carefully crafted media message of "7th fleet"? US is not naive and knows very well what is india upto. If india thinks it can draw bargain using artifical hedge like this and stir anti americanism, then india has another thing coming.

4- BD does not have any strategic benefit in wider scheme of things due its location. But it has another advantage of being a Muslim nation that identifies itself based on its ethnicity and language than being a Muslim...This is really significant to the liberal fascist in US. So they might be lobbying to court BD in place of Pakistan. This will help US to reign in Myanmar, India and to some extent South Eact Asia....

Bangladesh does not have strategic benefit for its lcation? That is what india has been trying to propagate from long time. Because if Bangladesh utilizes its strategic location and get connected to Myanmar, ASEAN and China, India will get further isolated cut by Bangladesh in the east and cut by Pakistan from central asian energy resource and grate game. Not to mention indian asymetric trade aggression in Bangladesh will not able to sustain as Bangladesh can import basic food and materials from Myanmar, China and other ASEAN countries. US initiative to get Bangladesh connected strike that fear at the heart of indian estabishment and indians who are watching.

Bangladesh does not have any major dispute with Myanmar today. But india keeping its eye on prospect of loosing its asymetric imposition on Bangladesh had been and will try to promote hostality between Bangladesh and Myanmar. And that why Manmohan Singh must have told Myanmar during his recent visit "Bangladesh Muslim population, heritage and culture are danger to Myanmar " and "US will use Bangladesh Muslim population, heritage and culture to reign in Myanmar". Good to know which angle india will run its propaganda. We just need to be careful more about india harming Bangladesh and its interest than US.

I am not sure if BD is aware about its not ...But if you allign with US the danger is not about what USA will do....Rather than that the political oppertunism played out by your own politician will do a lot of bad for your nation..

More than politicians it is india which will stir things up using propaganda, lie and interference. That is what had been damaging Bangladesh and we need to be be careful about india and indians.

 

[newdelhinsa]

Indians are freaked out even with a fart... what will happen when they see the US soldiers guarding our border along with BDR? LOL

Bangladeshis intestines will distend forever when your Indian masters will tighten your screw from behind, left, right and centre, farting and defecation all will stop once and all. LUL...LOL

Bangladeshis from one nick pick line which might have to do with a different context; having feel good time against Indians. The BSF syndrome has made their psyche like a Chicken forever that to be safe from BSF who is simply doing its duty protecting Indian borders from Bangladeshis they are ready to hand over their strategic port to some another nation with no feasible policy they may ever be able to clinch with them against India.

I wonder why USA finds Muslim nations easy sell off, might be some thing to do with their inherited cowardice and morality in criss. I think Hassan Nissar (a Pakistani think Tank) has summed it up the reasoning some time ago on a Pakistani channel, the video should be available on youtube.

 

[punit]

so bangladeshis are ready to surrender their sovereignty to counter an imaginary Indian threat just like pakis. Good Job

 

[idune]

Request to Bangladeshi members, please don't respond to flame baits and stupid posts from indians. They are here for no good reason.

 

[kalu_miah]

A country must guard itself. Asking some one else to do it is asking for your sovereignty to go.

Yes, but we are going to use the gringo's to kick India/RAW out of Bangladesh and become a part of ASEAN. We are not Pakistan, we know what we are doing. Just relax and watch the show.

Like the Vietnamese says, we do not need China or USA in the long run, although we may use both temporarily, ASEAN+ by itself can be a power that can protect itself. Please follow the story here:
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/180755-geopolitics-asean-region.html

So why indian establishment is getting crazy about even prospect of US involvement in Bay of Bangel? And why india stiring up anti amerricanism (not thet they had created on their own) by carefully crafted media message of "7th fleet"? US is not naive and knows very well what is india upto. If india thinks it can draw bargain using artifical hedge like this and stir anti americanism, then india has another thing coming.

Bangladesh does not have strategic benefit for its lcation? That is what india has been trying to propagate from long time. Because if Bangladesh utilizes its strategic location and get connected to Myanmar, ASEAN and China, India will get further isolated cut by Bangladesh in the east and cut by Pakistan from central asian energy resource and grate game. Not to mention indian asymetric trade aggression in Bangladesh will not able to sustain as Bangladesh can import basic food and materials from Myanmar, China and other ASEAN countries. US initiative to get Bangladesh connected strike that fear at the heart of indian estabishment and indians who are watching.

Bangladesh does not have any major dispute with Myanmar today. But india keeping its eye on prospect of loosing its asymetric imposition on Bangladesh had been and will try to promote hostality between Bangladesh and Myanmar. And that why Manmohan Singh must have told Myanmar during his recent visit "Bangladesh Muslim population, heritage and culture are danger to Myanmar " and "US will use Bangladesh Muslim population, heritage and culture to reign in Myanmar". Good to know which angle india will run its propaganda. We just need to be careful more about india harming Bangladesh and its interest than US.

More than politicians it is india which will stir things up using propaganda, lie and interference. That is what had been damaging Bangladesh and we need to be be careful about india and indians.

Well said idune Bhai, India is nervous about the US move. Let the Indians make a four lane free way through the shiliguri corridor all the way to Hanoi, it will only make the 50 million Christian-Buddhist ethnic South East Asian NE state populations to integrate and become close to greater Mekong region of ASEAN. This free way will bring their dooms day as one day NE states population will demand to secede and become a part of much more prosperous and ethnically closer ASEAN. I think India has a Aritcle 370 like restriction for non-locals to settle down, which is another great advantage in the long term for the NE seven sister states.

 

[punit]

Yes, but we are going to use the gringo's to kick India/RAW out of Bangladesh and become a part of ASEAN. We are not Pakistan, we know what we are doing. Just relax and watch the show.


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u must been smoking a strong one at least learn from ur western ex brothers what US Military presence brings