Exchange of fire between security forces and terrorists including mortar fire, eight terrorists killed, two soldiers injured: ISPR

[Mirzali Khan]

In fact it's Pashtun Islam to just label your personal political enemy as murtad or kaffir because you want to fight them with excuse of jihad and then just using suicide bombing against them.

Same tactic used against Tajiks and Hazaras. It is due to these same Pashtuns tbh that there are some of them that have negative thoughts about Islam.

When Habibullah Kalikani, a Tajik, declared Amanullah Khan as well as all of his personal opponents as kuffar what Islam was he following?

 

[ziaulislam]

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He has a point.
Army should also release pics of terrorists to justify their operation.
Otherwise we will see it as much true as was their neutral mantra.

Why do you care? You think killing extra judicial people via air bombing raid is fine

Why change of heart so quickly???

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

You think killing extra judicial people via air bombing raid is fine

No it do not think so.
I am all for accountability of military regarding their war on terror in Balochistan & FATA

 

[khansaheeb]

Establishment is literally retarded bro, literally chose the absolute WORST of times. It's like they purposefully want to set themselves up.

But anyway watch this get more attention than the Lahori genocide.

Establishment will always be beghairat and buzdil in my books until Kandahar is not firebombed with mass cluster munitions.

Full of foreign agent moles whose goal is to undermine the country in any way they can. But we sure could do with drones to deal with the terrorshits coming over the border.

 

[TheSolution]

When Habibullah Kalikani, a Tajik, declared Amanullah Khan as well as all of his personal opponents as kuffar what Islam was he following?

The same one he learnt from his Pashtun countrymen through observation

There's a reason why revealing your sins while Allah has concealed them for you is considered a bigger sin by some and discouraged - it causes fitnah and it spreads

Idk about that. There’s good and bad in every ethnicity.
We can’t stoop down to the level of the dog @ziaulislam.
Apparently to him Punjabis follow “Punjabi Islam” which isn’t proper Islam and we’re khawarij.
He better take his Shahada again. His words only harm himself. Reality of Punjabis can’t be change by a keyboard warrior on the net.

I agree that's why I specifically gave a percentage because it's not black and white - but it's not exactly equal either.

 

[TheSolution]

You are yet to tell me how much dollars Pakistan got in past few years when war against TTP is continuously happening in some particular regions of KPK

You have allegations. Lets talk about some proofs too



He used to support PDM and that manzoor pashteen fraud

That explains a lot about him

It's a psychological thing tbh, even if they don't want to, the ethnic angle naturally comes to their mind so they feel personally attacked.

Otherwise I think hypothetically i don't think they'd have a problem with it if that angle wasn't involved considering the dynamics and insurgency history of certain regions.

 

[Big Tank]

In that case, happy hunting. I'm assuming Pakistani drones, then its all kosher.

Your profile picture pretty much speaks that you're another zehni ghulam born.

 

[Enigma SIG]

So many times I just think Islam isn't made for this region.
BC sb ko whiskey pilao ta k adha din uth na sakain; at least better than blowing shit up.

 

[truthseeker2010]

West pak company doing what it does best.

I hope there is no sympathy this time for the 12th graders.

 

[Sifar zero]

What a load of bullshit, the only reason U.S does drone strikes in Pakistan is because
they got Permission from the Government in return for dollars. When IK came in he
said absolutely not to drone strikes.

This was not a US drone strike.
Pakistan has several drones of its own.

 

[hussain0216]

Why do you care? You think killing extra judicial people via air bombing raid is fine

Why change of heart so quickly???

This is the wrong argument,, why do people in those areas so susceptible to being and sheltering terrorism

What do you think, we have some of magic wand that can target terrorists and only terrorists when they live and are sheltered so close to other locals which act like human shields for them????


Even if the terrorists gave themselves up, it would be something, but they don't they start firing amongst their own population then what exactly do they or the locals think will happen



Seriously we tried to give amnesty, we tried to strike deals, we have multiple options but the locals of that region don't listen they indulge in endless fassad and deshatgardi then complain that operations happen it makes no sense

 

[Mirzali Khan]

The same one he learnt from his Pashtun countrymen through observation

There's a reason why revealing your sins while Allah has concealed them for you is considered a bigger sin by some and discouraged - it causes fitnah and it spreads

Doesn’t make sense.

He opposed Amanullah’s reforms which is why he did takfir on all of his own opponents and then started a civil war.

 

[TheSolution]

Doesn’t make sense.

He opposed Amanullah’s reforms which is why he did takfir on all of his own opponents and then started a civil war.

That's not really controversial at all.

Amanullah Khan was a dayooth that wanted to liberalise/secularise Afghanistan. He was forcing women in Kabul to show their awrah.

It was valid according to Islam.

That is a horrible example, and not comparable to Pashtuns weaponsing Islam to push their colonial rule and occupy their lands, invade, and steal resources, while butchering innocent Muslims all in the spirit of tribalism.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

That's not really controversial at all.

Amanullah Khan was a dayooth that wanted to liberalise/secularise Afghanistan. He was forcing women in Kabul to show their awrah.

It was valid according to Islam.

That is a horrible example, and not comparable to Pashtuns weaponsing Islam to push their colonial rule and occupy their lands, invade, and steal resources, while butchering innocent Muslims all in the spirit of tribalism.

Only scholars can make takfir. It’s why in a Hadith it is said if one takfirs another person it can fall upon the person making the original takfir. You can only say it is valid if you are a scholar.

There’s Tajik and Uzbek even Hazara members of the Taliban at this current moment. Afghanistan has had multiple civil wars, atrocities were common amongst the ethnicities there. It’s not something relegated to Pashtuns only.

 

[TheSolution]

Only scholars can make takfir. It’s why in a Hadith it is said if one takfirs another person it can fall upon the person making the original takfir. You can only say it is valid if you are a scholar.

There’s Tajik and Uzbek even Hazara members of the Taliban at this current moment. Afghanistan has had multiple civil wars, atrocities were common amongst the ethnicities there. It’s not something relegated to Pashtuns only.

How do you know a scholar didn't make takfir?

He was forcefully secularising Afghanistan and making women show their awrah, I'm sure many people made takfir against him.

Regardless his logic actually upholds unlike Pashtun tribalism logic disguised as "Islamist"