Every 3 mins a Christian is tortured in the Muslim world, Christian activist alleges

[BATMAN]

 

[Solomon2]

"Even this is what the Israelis are doing, aren't they ?? Muslims used to live here and they have been forced to flee their homes and illegal settlements day by day are being constructed so that Muslims are left to the minimum or completely gone and their land captured by Jews."

I've already posted stuff about how Jews in Palestine purchased land from Arabs at inflated prices well before WWII. And I have yet to hear from anyone on this forum a word of sympathy about the Jews and Christians who were dispossessed throughout the middle east since the Ottoman Empire dissolved.

In fact, I hear nothing at all about whether non-Muslims are entitled to any sort of hearing for a grievance they believe they have suffered at the hands of Muslims.

 

[afriend]

Every religion in this world have shown some intolerance some point of time in the history, but the question is where do we stand now, are we going to make the same mistake that has been committed centuries ago, are you going to take REVENGE for something that has happend ceenturies ago.

There are many countries in this world still practice discrimination as a state policy, why don't you try to change that first, instead of worrying about the stereotyping of religion elsewhere.. Try not to provide an enviornment to the extrimists where they can grow and preach extrimism.. ban all those religious institution which preachs hardcore religous extrimism, reform these religious schools to the requirments of the modern world. These are the things we have to do, rather than nurture hate in our mind for every bad thing that is happening to us, coz no matter what, we too are responsible for the situation we are in today directly or indirectly.

 

[Developereo]

have you considered that your prejudices may rule your minds, not facts and reason?

Our awareness of your Zionist agenda and the irony of an Israeli apologist complaining about religious bigotry is relevant.

Your last paragraph completely negates your first paragraphs. I guess what the Jews are doing in Palestine is just the same as normal human behavior, no less, no more. The strong prevail over the weak ... Right?

That is precisely what is happening in Palestine. Glad you finally accepted it. The existence of Israel has nothing to do with justice or morality. It is a blatant land grab because one side has superior weapons and a hugely powerful PR apparatus. The Israelis use the race card and the Holocaust sympathy card to deflect any criticism.

I've already posted stuff about how Jews in Palestine purchased land from Arabs at inflated prices well before WWII.

The facts presented in the BBC documentary give the lie to your assertion. While it may be true that some Jews purchased land from some Arabs at infalted prices, this was not the main instrument of Jewish land grab. Deception, clandestine migration, British bullying and ethnic cleansing due to outright Jewish terrorism are the main reasons for Israel's existence. The head of the Haganah himself admits the goals and tactics of Jewish terrorism.

And I have yet to hear from anyone on this forum a word of sympathy about the Jews and Christians who were dispossessed throughout the middle east since the Ottoman Empire dissolved.

I have always maintained that all peoples displaced by fear of religious persecution should be allowed to return to their homes. This includes Muslims/Christians displaced from Israel, as well as Christians/Jews displaced from Muslim lands.

There are many countries in this world still practice discrimination as a state policy, why don't you try to change that first, instead of worrying about the stereotyping of religion elsewhere..

A very apropos question to our Israeli apologist who started this whole thread.

Try not to provide an enviornment to the extrimists where they can grow and preach extrimism.. ban all those religious institution which preachs hardcore religous extrimism, reform these religious schools to the requirments of the modern world.

The most powerful 'school' in the world is the media, and the Western media, which sets the tone for the global media, is dominated by Zionists. As part of their agenda to demonize anyone who opposes Israel, the Zionist media has legitimized anti-Muslim bigotry. Every anti-Muslim bigot around the world has come out of their hole and parades around as a 'terrorism expert'.

Countries around the world are openly engaged in discrimination against Muslims. It is not Pakistan which is banning church towers, but Switzerland which is considering banning mosque minarets. Morocco doesn't ban Christian nuns from wearing their habit while teaching, yet Germany forbids Muslim teachers from wearing the headscarf. France allows Christian crosses and the star of David in schools, but expressly forbids Muslim headscarfs. Iran allows Christians and Jews to take oath in court on their religious book, but the good ole' US of A doesn't allow that privilege to non-Christians.

And this is not even counting countries like Thailand, Burma and Phillipines which have been oppressing their Muslim minorities for decades and now do so brazenly by callously killing and dismissing any dissenters as 'militants' or 'terrorists'.

All this is happening because the Zionist media has provided a new cover for their hate. The biggest preacher of hate, by far, is the Zionist media. It was they who beat the drums of war on Iraq, and are now doing the same against Iran and Pakistan. They have caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Muslim civilians, far more than all the terrorist attacks combined.

 

[Solomon2]

Q: have you considered that your prejudices may rule your minds, not facts and reason?
A: Our awareness of your Zionist agenda and the irony of an Israeli apologist complaining about religious bigotry is relevant.
Our awareness of your Zionist agenda and the irony of an Israeli apologist complaining about religious bigotry is relevant.

I will take this as a confession of your personal prejudice and that you are allowing this prejudice to color your judgment.

While it may be true that some Jews purchased land from some Arabs at infalted prices, this was not the main instrument of Jewish land grab -

I note you are deliberately ignoring the pleas of non-Muslims for justice. So what alternative is left but for non-Muslims to fence off a corner of turf to build a more just society of their own?

I have always maintained that all peoples displaced by fear of religious persecution should be allowed to return to their homes. This includes Muslims/Christians displaced from Israel

I'm sorry, did I miss your list of the organizations you have established or the funds you have donated to seek such ends? For the Palestinians do not envision an Israel where any Jew remains, dead or alive, no matter how often the Jews pay for the same plot of land; nor do the Jordanians envision the Jews returning, nor the Egyptians, and the new Iraqi government made a conscious decision not to honor departed Jews' property and citizenship claims several years ago, while the Lebanese maintain a pretense that their Jewish community still exists even as the main synagogue in Beirut remains abandoned, bombed-out, and vandalized. And what about in Pakistan itself? link

In contrast, many Arabs retained and still retain their property and property rights in Israel. Over twenty percent of the Arabs who departed after the Independence War returned to reclaim their lands. link

The most powerful 'school' in the world is the media, and the Western media, which sets the tone for the global media, is dominated by Zionists...

Do you see "Zionists" controlling you? Are they controlling your family? Your children's school? Your mayor? Your newspaper? Your president? Your country's media? The BBC? The Queen of England? President Obama? The U.N.?

The biggest preacher of hate, by far, is the Zionist media. It was they who beat the drums of war on Iraq, and are now doing the same against Iran and Pakistan...They have caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Muslim civilians, far more than all the terrorist attacks combined.

I think this is one of your core principles, Developereo. Facts that don't support it don't matter to you. And I don't believe you are alone.

Look at the afflictions of your country around you. At every turn, it is Pakistanis who made the decisions about how to govern the country. So can you describe how "Zionists" made a mess of things?

 

[Iggy]

9kSjjGvkft0[/media] - Indian Christian Nun Raped
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Attacks on Christian Prayer Centres, Institutions[/url]

What it has to do with the topic??since when India become a Muslim country??

 

[TaimiKhan]

What it has to do with the topic??since when India become a Muslim country??

Its not about India bashing, read the posts before and see what discussion is happening. This videos have been posted in the reference to the discussion on hand.

 

[fhassan]

Every 3 minutes - how many Muslims are blown up in the Muslim world?

 

[Gazzi]

We may be coming from different angles, but you and I are asking the same thing, Gazzi. So I just sent Shafie an email asking him to do so and report back to this forum.

Solomon - any news with your e-mail

 

[Solomon2]

Solomon - any news with your e-mail

No reply yet.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Every 3 minutes - how many Muslims are blown up in the Muslim world?

Do you mean by other Muslims? or just by Christians?

 

[xdrive]

Human rights group: Hamas disinters Christians in Gaza

Every three minutes a Christian is being tortured in the Muslim world, and in 2009 more than 165,000 Christians will have been killed because of their faith, most of them in Muslim countries, according to a human rights organization that is visiting Israel starting Sunday.

Majed El Shafie, who will head a delegation of human rights activists, members of parliament from Canada and religious personalities at the Van Leer Institute inJerusalem.

"Hamas digs up the bodies of Christians from Christian burial sites in the Gaza Strip claiming that they pollute the earth," said Reverend Majed El Shafie, President of One Free World International (OFWI), who will head a delegation of human rights activists, members of parliament from Canada and religious personalities.

During their visit to Israel the delegation will hold a conference on human rights and persecuted minorities at the Van Leer Institute in Jerusalem. The conference will provide new statistics on the persecution of minorities in Muslim countries.

El Shafie said that between 200-300 million Christians are being persecuted in the world, 80 percent of whom lived in Muslim countries and the rest in communist and other countries.

Members of the delegation will meet with Knesset Speaker Reuven Rivlin, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Danny Ayalon and Mayor ofJerusalem Nir Barkat in the hope of enlisting Israel to champion their cause.

OFWI is a human rights organization whose headquarters are located in Toronto, Canada. The organization numbers some 3,000 members, divided into 28 branches that are active in countries all over the world, including Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even Iran.

El Shafie, 32, was born in Cairo to a distinguished Muslim family of lawyers and judges. Through a Christian friend he was exposed at an early age to hatred toward the Christian minority in Egypt.

He decided to convert to Christianity, wrote a book about it and as a result became an outcast and a victim of oppression.

In 1998 he was arrested, imprisoned, tortured and condemned to death.

El Shafie managed to escape, fled to the Sinai, where a Beduin family hid him for two months, and crossed the Israeli border on a jet-ski. Hewas arrested in Israel and was imprisoned for over a year in Beersheba, until he was released through the assistance of the UN, Amnesty International and the International Christian Embassy inJerusalem, which managed to obtain political asylum for El Shafie in Canada, where he emigrated. He founded OFWI in 2004.

This is totally wrong! remember muslims never do anything like this, they are peaceful people who have respect for other religions



It's funnt watching responses to this thread. Muslims reply with 1 of 2 things. A reply with something about israel or a reply with "but people do it to us!" Israel isn't responsible for your human rights abuses. Just because other people do it to you doesnt mean it gives you the right to do it back anyway that argument in it's self is stupid. Muslims would do it regardless of weather it was happening to them or not.

 

[TaimiKhan]

This is totally wrong! remember muslims never do anything like this, they are peaceful people who have respect for other religions



It's funnt watching responses to this thread. Muslims reply with 1 of 2 things. A reply with something about israel or a reply with "but people do it to us!" Israel isn't responsible for your human rights abuses. Just because other people do it to you doesnt mean it gives you the right to do it back anyway that argument in it's self is stupid. Muslims would do it regardless of weather it was happening to them or not.

Would be better that you first understand what the discussion is going on and then open it up. No one is saying that if others are doing it, then Muslims should do it also.

The point is that why Muslims only get vilified for such things which are being done by the people of other religions also. Why no such BS journalistic reports surface identifying others who do such things to either Muslims or people of other religion.

Hope you have now an idea what the discussion is about and no more posts like above are seen from u.

 

[Awesome]

Around 600,000 Civilians were killed in Iraq in the first three years of war.

That's 22 Civilians killed per hour! How's that for a headline?

 

[TaimiKhan]

Around 600,000 Civilians were killed in Iraq in the first three years of war.

That's 22 Civilians killed per hour! How's that for a headline?

Well they do write this as a headline in their newspapers, but in hidden ink

And they do show this news as major headlines in the news channels on TV, but such headlines are shown only when there is an advertisement going on and people are watching that advertisement.