Europe: With friends like these, who needs enemies?

[MarkusS]

For whom? we just stand for innocent Syrian people and for our national interests, we dont mind what europe or world thinking about us. Governments and media speak but innocent people just see the real truths so allways people will determine the future, governments or media organizations change but people allways stay. so Every single Syrian and other innocent people know that Turkey allways stand at right way and this situation give us Real Power...

The majority of italians see you as evil and terrorist supporters.

 

[[TR]AHMET]

The majority of italians see you as evil and terrorist supporters.

No matter we allways will do what we have to do, poor Syrian people more important than Italian people for us

 

[TrMhMt]

The majority of italians see you as evil and terrorist supporters.

What a coincident? Same as here...

 

[A friend]

The majority of italians see you as evil and terrorist supporters.

No they don't your just full of shit.

 

[A friend]

Why dont turkey prove it and conquers Raqqa? That would show evryone your loyality.

Yeah... No. If we invade Syria that would mean trouble with Russia even if we only attack Isis. And we're not your dog we don't have to prove shit to you. Your not superior to us and never will be get this in your head.

 

[MarkusS]

No they don't your just full of shit.

Of course we do. Its that bad that we use the word Turk as an insult and evry single government we had made sure that a referendum is hold if turkey comes ever close to become member of EU that way can be sure it never will because majority of italians would vote against it.

We see turkey very critical. Infact that much that our justice system investigates against turkey PM and his family as criminals.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...undering-allegedly-connected-to-a6879871.html

Can Italy trust turkey? I dont think so. I dont believe countries with different religion can trust each other. I think turkey would back stab us as soon as they could.

Would you help us in ay way if we need help? I doubt. Sorry but cant believe it

Yeah... No. If we invade Syria that would mean trouble with Russia even if we only attack Isis. And we're not your dog we don't have to prove shit to you. Your not superior to us and never will be get this in your head.

I dont say we are superior. I think we are same level. Do you too?

 

[[TR]AHMET]

Would you help us in ay way if we need help? I doubt. Sorry but cant believe it


I dont say we are superior. I think we are same level. Do you too?

Mate we saved Jewish from Nazis and Spanish persecution at Ottoman time, also we helped Irish against English persecution, as i remember we helped some Italians because of some persecution at Ottoman time too.

For example we accept Nusayri (Shia) Arabs, Alewi Yezidi Kurds, Armanians etc. when they wanted enter Turkey from Syria or Iraq. Because they were innocent and unarmed groups who escape from deash so we never seperated them as nation nation.

No matter who you are, just be True, be men eat my life So you can believe that we allways be fair !

 

[A friend]

Mate we saved Jewish from Nazis and Spanish persecution at Ottoman time, also we helped Irish against English persecution, as i remember we helped some Italians because of some persecution at Ottoman time too.

For example we accept Nusayri (Shia) Arabs, Alewi Yezidi Kurds, Armanians etc. when they wanted enter Turkey from Syria or Iraq. Because they were innocent and unarmed groups who escape from deash so we never seperated them as nation nation.

No matter who you are, just be True, be men eat my life So you can believe that we allways be fair !

Don't bother commenting on his posts he is just a payed troll.

 

[MarkusS]

Mate we saved Jewish from Nazis and Spanish persecution at Ottoman time, also we helped Irish against English persecution, as i remember we helped some Italians because of some persecution at Ottoman time too.

For example we accept Nusayri (Shia) Arabs, Alewi Yezidi Kurds, Armanians etc. when they wanted enter Turkey from Syria or Iraq. Because they were innocent and unarmed groups who escape from deash so we never seperated them as nation nation.

No matter who you are, just be True, be men eat my life So you can believe that we allways be fair !

why you think relations are so bad then snd always were relative bad between italy and turkey?

 

[Bismarck]

The majority of italians see you as evil and terrorist supporters.

Where do you know this? Also, is it more your problem than Turkeys if you think so. It is not Turkeys job to collecting positive images.

Of course we do. Its that bad that we use the word Turk as an insult and evry single government we had made sure that a referendum is hold if turkey comes ever close to become member of EU that way can be sure it never will because majority of italians would vote against it.

We see turkey very critical. Infact that much that our justice system investigates against turkey PM and his family as criminals.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...undering-allegedly-connected-to-a6879871.html

Can Italy trust turkey? I dont think so. I dont believe countries with different religion can trust each other. I think turkey would back stab us as soon as they could.

Would you help us in ay way if we need help? I doubt. Sorry but cant believe it



I dont say we are superior. I think we are same level. Do you too?

As we see you as criminals? If we thing of Italians, we think on mafia which is an integral part of Italian society. Especially most of your politician are collected to mafia. We have a saying: "who sits in the glass house should not throw stones."

What I am trying to say is, we are all full of prejudices.

You claim to be a military power? How is it possible your troops watch while 30 meters away behind syrian borders ISIS erects flags and posts? right next your military?

I honestly ask you because our security council in Roma said that turkey supports ISIS.

At the moment they hoist the flag, are turkey part of anti ISIS coalition? Otherwise I don't think the had any right to shoot them down.

Because of the polarization of the country.

They must learn to be cool minded.

You are right, but then again who cares?? Not our business how their leaders treat their own people. If the E.U wants to get a deal that will serve our interests, then carry on and sign it. If you want to look at every developing countries human rights and stop signing trade deals/cooperating with them because of their human rights record then we should stop all relations with China, Russia, KSA, gulf states, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, almost all of Africa, the middle east, etc etc.

In short, these E.U officials should cut the crap about human rights bullshits, that doesnt exist in Geo-politics. INTERESTS should always come first. Do we also have to teach our European brothers such basic geo political rules? Or maybe Germany will rather welcome more refugees on top of the millions it already has?

Finally, NO Turkey wouldnt and shouldn't be given any visa free travel to Europe, it will create a huge black market for Turkish passport by other north African and middle eastern/Pakistanis citizens in Turkey who are looking for ways to flock in here. Might as well open the floodgates for the refugees than doing this. Lol Anyway, we should leave things the way they are Turkey will never join the E.U as majority of them I understand dont want it anyway, so why bother with this issue? never change a winning situation. favourable trade deals and access to market can be signed, and refugees settlement deals as well, but no free visa or E.U access. THIS WILL ONLY complicate things for both countries.

EU is a value society. Hunan fights are part of it. Every state who wants to join us should know this.

 

[MarkusS]

Germany..Uk...Italy...France..etc are slaves to Zionism - Zionist Media and Zionist Bankers

Zionist Media says and Europeans are doing everything for little Israel and Zionist Bankers

and after collapsing of the Soviet Union in 1991 zionist CIA..MI6 and MOSSAD created new enemy instead of communist USSR

the new enemy is ISLAM and Muslims ....... and zionist CIA...MI6 and MOSSAD and Zionist Media and Zionist Bankers created ISLAMOPHOBIA (anti-Islam ) in Europe

even Christian the US..Uk..France...etc killed millions of innocent Muslims in Afghanistan--Iraq--Libya-Algeria and Middle East

even savage thives the US..Uk..France. destroyed everything in Iraq and Libya to steal oil reserves under the mask of bringing them democracy ... today where is your democracy in Iraq and Libya ? only conflict ..death..tears and fake Islamist terrorist organizations ..nothing else


btw zionist CIA..MI6 and MOSSAD created and control ISIS for zionist interests in the Middle East

but some ignorant Muslims join to ISIS and American-British-Israeli intelligence use stupid ignorant Muslims for zionist interests in the Middle East and also to create Islamophobia (anti Islam )


what a dirty game ...........

We were enemies since hundreds of years. You tried to conquer italy. We fought you off and defended our lands sucessful. In the end we defeated you and broke your empire.

Tell me a single time where we italians and you turks were allied or friends.

 

[CrimsonFury]

We were enemies since hundreds of years. You tried to conquer italy. We fought you off and defended our lands sucessful. In the end we defeated you and broke your empire.

Tell me a single time where we italians and you turks were allied or friends.

If you determine your friends by their nationality alone you are a bigot and a fool. The SPQR icon on your profile pic is a joke that is roughly a millennia long: you are not the citizen of a Roman Empire, the legacy of great men (I mean that as Ancient Roman history is a hobby of mine) like Africanus, Germanicus and Trajan left you has been wasted in the bunga bunga parties of Berlusconi and the pure stupidity of Mussolini and your own bigotry. Just as people in my country who think the Ottoman Empire can be re established are delusional and stupid, you are the same. Get off your high horse or , one day, that horse will be torn from under you and force fed to you in the form of reality. It is thanks to people like you that the EU is destroying itself and people slaughtered each other during both world wars: a sense of false grandeur, a pinch of idiocy, and a biased view of history.

 

[MarkusS]

If you determine your friends by their nationality alone you are a bigot and a fool. The SPQR icon on your profile pic is a joke that is roughly a millennia long: you are not the citizen of a Roman Empire, the legacy of great men (I mean that as Ancient Roman history is a hobby of mine) like Africanus, Germanicus and Trajan left you has been wasted in the bunga bunga parties of Berlusconi and the pure stupidity of Mussolini and your own bigotry. Just as people in my country who think the Ottoman Empire can be re established are delusional and stupid, you are the same. Get off your high horse or , one day, that horse will be torn from under you and force fed to you in the form of reality. It is thanks to people like you that the EU is destroying itself and people slaughtered each other during both world wars: a sense of false grandeur, a pinch of idiocy, and a biased view of history.

I dont want reestablish our empire. I honor our ancestors and history. Europe is not destroying itself. I want the best for my family, my friends and our country and europe. And letting turkey in is not in our interest.

Since you claim to be good in history, tell me a single time when we wre friends in history.

 

[CrimsonFury]

I dont want reestablish our empire. I honor our ancestors and history. Europe is not destroying itself. I want the best for my family, my friends and our country and europe. And letting turkey in is not in our interest.

Since you claim to be good in history, tell me a single time when we wre friends in history.

Countries don't have friendship they have alliances. Hmm let's think...NATO ring a bell?

 

[MarkusS]

Countries don't have friendship they have alliances. Hmm let's think...NATO ring a bell?

We dont trust you. As you shot down russias airplane italy was first NATO country that said we wont defend you if russia attacks you.