Eurofighter Snipes Lockheed, Says Typhoon More 5th-Gen Than F-35, Latter Not Even A F

[xMustiiej70]

I say f35 is the best airplane.
now and later.
Im going to wait for other informations.

 

[gambit]

During the first Desert Storm attack against Iraq on the 17th January 1991, only 10 stealth aircraft from a total of 658 non stealth attack aircraft successfully hit targets in Iraq and Kuwait. That night there were no losses at all. So what is the lesson learnt? Clearly if you can hide an F-117, the primary stealth bomber of that time... you can also hide a B-52!

Hide? Whoever made that comment, I hope he is promoted toot-sweet to India's military Chief-of-Staff...So I can enjoy sipping my beer as I watch he ruin India's military little by little.

 

[jagjitnatt]

Hide? Whoever made that comment, I hope he is promoted toot-sweet to India's military Chief-of-Staff...So I can enjoy sipping my beer as I watch he ruin India's military little by little.

And why do you want him promoted as Indian Chief of Staff?
He isn't even Indian, nor is he representing India.

Where did India come from?

 

[Indiarox]

WHO SAYS.. THAT EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON WILL BE IN RANGE OF ENGAGING F35.
WHO SAYS EUROFIGHTER TPHOON HAS THE CHANGE TO BE IN A DOGFIGHT WITH THE F35 WITHOUT BEING TAKEN DOWN BY THE F35.
IN A DOGFIGHT THE F35 MIGHT BE 3 TIMES STRONGER THEN EUROFIGHTER TYPHOON.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO GO IN AND TAKE IT OUT LIKE 99.9% OF THE AIR ATTACKS.. EUROFIGHTER TYPHOONS WILL BE ALL DOWN WITHOUT KNOWING A DOT ON THE RADAR.

DOOOO YOUUUU UNDERSTAAAAAAAAAAAND ME NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

a comparission
JSF
Crew: 1
Length: 51.4 ft (15.67 m)
Wingspan: 35 ft (10.7 m)
Height: 14.2 ft [nb 1] (4.33 m)
Wing area: 460 ft² [60] (42.7 m&#178
Empty weight: 29,300 lb (13,300 kg)
Loaded weight: 44,400 lb (20,100 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 70,000 lb[nb 2] (31,800 kg)
Powerplant: 1× Pratt & Whitney F135 afterburning turbofan
Dry thrust: 28,000 lbf[252] (125 kN)
Thrust with afterburner: 43,000 lbf[252] (191 kN)
Internal fuel: 18,480 lb (8,382 kg) [nb 3]
Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 1.67[253] (1,283 mph, 2,065 km/h)
Range: 1,200 nmi (2,220 km) on internal fuel[254]
Combat radius: 610 nmi (1,110 km) on internal fuel[254]
Service ceiling: 60,000 ft[255] (18,288 m)
Rate of climb: classified (not publicly available)
Wing loading: 91.4 lb/ft² (446 kg/m&#178
Thrust/weight:
With full fuel: 0.84;[60]
With 50% fuel: 1.04 B:[60]
g-Limits: 9 g[nb 4]
Armament
Guns: 1 × GAU-22/A 25 mm (0.984 in) cannon internally with 180 rounds[nb 5][56]
Hardpoints: 6× external pylons on wings with a capacity of 15,000 lb (6,800 kg)[56][60] and 2 × internal bays with 2 pylons each[60] for a total weapons payload of 18,000 lb (8,100 kg)[254] and provisions to carry combinations of:
Missiles:
Air-to-air: AIM-120 AMRAAM, AIM-132 ASRAAM, AIM-9X Sidewinder, IRIS-T
Air-to-ground: AGM-154 JSOW, AGM-158 JASSM[65]
Bombs:
Mark 84, Mark 83 and Mark 82 GP bombs
Mk.20 Rockeye II cluster bomb
Wind Corrected Munitions Dispenser capable
Paveway-series laser-guided bombs
Small Diameter Bomb (SDB)
JDAM-series
B61 nuclear bomb
Euro-fighter typhoon
General characteristics
Crew: 1 (operational aircraft) or 2 (training aircraft)
Length: 15.96 m (52 ft 5 in)
Wingspan: 10.95 m (35 ft 11 in)
Height: 5.28 m (17 ft 4 in)
Wing area: 51.2 m2[184] (551 ft2)
Empty weight: 11,000 kg (24,250 lb)
Loaded weight: 16,000 kg[184] (35,300 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 23,500 kg (51,800 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Eurojet EJ200 afterburning turbofan
Dry thrust: 60 kN (13,500 lbf) each
Thrust with afterburner: 90 kN (20,250 lbf) each
Performance
Maximum speed:
At altitude: Mach 2 (2,495 km/h, 1,550 mph)[185][186]
At sea level: Mach 1.2[183] (1,470 km/h / 913.2 mph)[187]
Supercruise: Mach 1.1–1.5[181][188]
Range: 2,900 km (1,840 mi)
Combat radius:
Ground attack, lo-lo-lo: 601 km (325 nmi)
Ground attack, hi-lo-hi: 1,389 km (750 nmi)
Air defence with 3-hr CAP: 185 km (100 nmi)
Air defence with 10-min loiter: 1,389 km (863 nmi) [189]
Ferry range: 3,790 km (2,300 mi)
Service ceiling: 19,810 m (65,000 ft)
Rate of climb: >315 m/s[190][191] (62,000 ft/min[192])
Wing loading: 312 kg/m2[184] (64.0 lb/ft2)
Armament
Guns: 1 × 27 mm Mauser BK-27 cannon with 150 rounds
Hardpoints: Total of 13: 8 × under-wing plus 5 × under-fuselage pylon stations holding up to 7,500 kg (16,500 lb) of payload[184][193]
Missiles:
Air-to-air missiles:
AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-132 ASRAAM, AIM-120 AMRAAM, IRIS-T, and, in the future, MBDA Meteor
Air-to-surface missiles:
AGM-84 Harpoon, AGM-88 HARM, ALARM, Storm Shadow (AKA Scalp EG), Brimstone, Taurus KEPD 350, Penguin and in the future AGM Armiger
Bombs: Paveway II/III/Enhanced Paveway series of Laser-guided bombs (LGBs), Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM), HOPE/HOSBO
Others:
Flares/infrared decoys dispenser pod and chaff pod and
Electronic countermeasures (ECM) pods
LITENING III laser targeting pod
Up to 3 drop tanks for ferry flight or extended range/loitering time.

 

[xMustiiej70]

isn't EF made for air to air defence? at the back lines?

 

[desiman]

The F-35 is a highly overrated Jet and is a like a nice lollypop thrown by LM in order to keep its huge customer base satisfied. As the years move on more and more countries would want a 5th generation aircraft and giving them a F-35 seems like the best option. As the F-35 is hugely inferior to the F-22 it will not act as a deterrent to the US Air force and will also manage to create the illusion of having a 5th generation aircraft. I really dont doubt Eurofighters claims and wont be surprised that it comes out as the winner. Few jets in the world can match it in A2A warfare.

 

[jagjitnatt]

isn't EF made for air to air defence? at the back lines?

And what is F-35 for? doing push-ups??

Both are multi-role fighters, capable of air-air as well as air-ground warfare.

 

[xMustiiej70]

And what is F-35 for? doing push-ups??

Both are multi-role fighters, capable of air-air as well as air-ground warfare.

f35 is for: breachin-scan-takeout-getoutofredzone.
also f35 is made to be on the front line.

 

[farhan_9909]

Well F-35 does have stealth and that is the most important aspect of a 5th gen aircraft. But other than that even I feel F-35 is over rated and is a lazy plane.

The engine F-35 has, although powerful is not enough for a plane of that size. When loaded the plane becomes too heavy for a single engine. The thrust to weight ratio becomes less than 1 which is not good.

The F-35 is not as agile, maneuverable, as the Typhoon. Where the sole pro of F35 is low observability, the Typhoon conquers rest of the aspects.

But the importance of low observability is too much to be over shadowed by maneuverability.

So its a close call.

Stealth : F35>Typhoon
Conventional warfare : Typhoon>F35

Over rated like your MKI?
So it means also doesnt hav enough power of engine
f-35 engine power is 191KN. and weight about 3.1ton
wher as MKI weight is 3.9 tonbt engine power is 131 each means 262KN.
now lets calculate
1Kn thrust of f-35 stand for 161KG
wher as 1kn thrust of MKI stand for 148KG.
nt much difference.so your MKI is heavy and the engine thrust is nt sufficient hence it is nt even good in any aspect.because when because of engine f-35 is nt better then f-35 and only is better in stealth
so it means MKI has larger RCS and engine power is nt sufficient
means its just an over rated plane..

 

[deepak75]

isn't EF made for air to air defence? at the back lines?

I am totally amazed. our xMustiiej is trolling successfully on at least three different threads that I know simultaneously at this moment and on each thread the responses are equally meaningless

 

[Indiarox]

The F-35 is a highly overrated Jet and is a like a nice lollypop thrown by LM in order to keep its huge customer base satisfied. As the years move on more and more countries would want a 5th generation aircraft and giving them a F-35 seems like the best option. As the F-35 is hugely inferior to the F-22 it will not act as a deterrent to the US Air force and will also manage to create the illusion of having a 5th generation aircraft. I really dont doubt Eurofighters claims and wont be surprised that it comes out as the winner. Few jets in the world can match it in A2A warfare.

small question if the F-35 is so overrated why would USA buy 2400 of these planes

 

[SpArK]

small question if the F-35 is so overrated why would USA buy 2400 of these planes

Simple. Because they dont buy anything else which is not American.

 

[WAQAS119]

Hide? Whoever made that comment, I hope he is promoted toot-sweet to India's military Chief-of-Staff...So I can enjoy sipping my beer as I watch he ruin India's military little by little.

And why do you want him promoted as Indian Chief of Staff?
He isn't even Indian, nor is he representing India.

Where did India come from?

he meant speaker's speaking habits are quite similar to indian chief's habits!!!!

 

[Indiarox]

Over rated like your MKI?
So it means also doesnt hav enough power of engine
f-35 engine power is 191KN. and weight about 3.1ton
wher as MKI weight is 3.9 tonbt engine power is 131 each means 262KN.
now lets calculate
1Kn thrust of f-35 stand for 161KG
wher as 1kn thrust of MKI stand for 148KG.
nt much difference.so your MKI is heavy and the engine thrust is nt sufficient hence it is nt even good in any aspect.because when because of engine f-35 is nt better then f-35 and only is better in stealth
so it means MKI has larger RCS and engine power is nt sufficient
means its just an over rated plane..

underestimating the MKI is a big risk

 

[WAQAS119]

I am totally amazed. our xMustiiej is trolling successfully on at least three different threads that I know simultaneously at this moment and on each thread the responses are equally meaningless

lol, Mustii is quite difficult nut to crack