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Ethnic war in Iran a matter of time?

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On Independence Day, I received a message on Facebook from a man who lives in Iraq and wanted to congratulate the State of Israel on its independence and thank it for destroying Saddam Hussein's nuclear reactor in 1981.

If it were not for that, he wrote, Iraq would have been filled with nuclear facilities, and imagine what would happen now, with the all-out war taking place there, where there are no rules and no limits and everything is permitted. Israel saved the Iraqi people, he wrote and thanked us.

Indeed, Saddam Hussein's Osirak reactor, had it remained, would now be in the area occupied by the Islamic State in the al-Anbar province. What would the world do then?

His messages raises a lot of interest not just about what happened and what was prevented, but also about what will happen. Iran is an ethnically, religiously and tribally torn country, just like Iraq and Syria, and maybe even more. It has no majority ethnic group, and the Persians, because of the negative birthrate, have already become a minority, although they are the largest minority among all other minorities, 24%. The others are Azeris, Balochs (Sunnis), Tajiks (Sunni), Lurs, Turkmens (Sunnis), Kurds (mostly Sunnis), Arabs (Sunnis) and others.


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The Bushehr nuclear power plant. Who will take over Iran's nuclear facilities faster and who will also use them? (Photo: EPA)

Some of these minorities want to split from Iran and connect their territory to other countries. The Azeris want to join Azerbaijan; the Balochs want to join Pakistan; the Kurds want to establish the "Great Kurdistan," which will extend over parts of Iraq, Turkey, Syria and Iran; and the Arabs want to establish their own independent state which will be called Ahwaz in Arabic or Khuzestan in Persian.

In other words, a breakup and a Sunni-Shiite ethnic war and a war between different ethnic minorities is only a matter of time in Iran. The ground is already on fire, and there are constant conflicts between the Balochs and Ahwazi Arabs and the regime, which is oppressing them with an iron fist.

The only thing that is still keeping this huge disintegrating country together is the fear of the void that may be created instead of the hated regime. They are afraid to become Syria, but when the ethnic and religious impulses rage, that can no longer be stopped. That's why it's important for Iran to divert the attention to Israel – in order to hide this destructive internal hostility.

Imagine Iran falling apart like Syria, Iraq, Libya or Yemen in a civil war with armed militias and nuclear facilities all over the area – what a danger of mass destruction that will be. It doesn’t have to be ready bombs. With radioactive materials one can prepare "dirty nuclear bombs" or other means of horror, and we already know that there is no mercy between the Sunnis and the Shiites – they just don’t have a nuclear weapon yet.

The American administration is naively assuming that the Iranian regime will continue to rule the area, but the Bashar Assad or Muammar Gaddafi regimes were as strong, and so were the regimes in Egypt and Yemen. In addition, Iran is a sort of transit country with representatives from all the nations in the region – from Afghanistan to Pakistan, from the Persian Gulf to Turkey – and if it falls apart, dark terroristic forces will penetrate and infiltrate it.

The Persians are actually a relatively weak force among the regional forces, and it will spark a competition over who will take over the nuclear facilities faster and who will also use them – because forces like ISIS have no responsibility or limits.

So how exactly will US President Barack Obama's nuclear agreement help? It's like flogging a dead horse. Only one question will remain: Who is the dead horse? Now no one can say they didn’t know.

Tensions might increase, but in general I tend to disagree with the article.

I also think comparison with Syria is wrong. Syria had much more of a history of ethnic tension.

Perhaps more likely is another movement for democracy like in 2009, especially if sanctions remain and life becomes unbearable.
 
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Weren't the Iranian regime supposed to fall 10 years after it overthrew the Shahs? The Iranians aren't falling anytime soon and they have been becoming both stronger and bolder while making regional decisions.
 
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Perhaps more likely is another movement for democracy like in 2009, especially if sanctions remain and life becomes unbearable.


What happened in Russia though, the people blamed the Western sanctions instead of their own government for their economic woes. And in fact Putin's popularity reached all-time highs.

When there is an external threat, it often causes people to band together against the perceived external threat.
 
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What happened in Russia though, the people blamed the Western sanctions instead of their own government for their economic woes. And in fact Putin's popularity reached all-time highs.

When there is an external threat, it often causes people to band together against the perceived external threat.

Not all people react the same.

Iraqis didn't rally around Saddam when sanctions were in place. Didn't happen in Libya either.

Plus Iranians have voted (sort of) for a 'reformer' - so are expecting change. When it doesn't come, sh*t could hit the fan.
 
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The funny part is some guy think Iran Arabs are sunni.

By the way when was the last time that a foreign threat didn't unite Iranian.
 
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When Saddam attacked Iran from the east, he assumed it would be a walk in the park, because he thought the "Arab Iranians" would welcome his as a liberator. He did not expect the various groups and religions to band together as one and stop him.
 
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For 4000 years, Iran has remained united and people from different colours, ethnities, religions and sects have manage to stay united.

Last time an enemy (saddam) thought of seperating one part of the country (Khuzestan with Arab population), he found Iranian Arabs at the first line of defence in front of the invading force.before him, Ottomans tried to seperate Azeris from us but faced iron punch.
 
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I was surprised to learn how small a minority Persians were in Iran.
 
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Non Hispanic white not even 60% in the US. Doesn't mean there will be an ethnic war in the US.
 
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But it doesn't really matter in Iran, because lines aren't really defined. Who exactly is a "Persian" and who isn't a Persian? I don't know if I'm a Persian or from some other Ethnicity. Should i do a DNA test?
 
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I was surprised to learn how small a minority Persians were in Iran.
Persians are a majority. You don't even know the difference between the words majority and minority and you're opening a topic that requires more then 10 brain cells. Typical soosmarkhor.
 
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Persians are a majority. You don't even know the difference between the words majority and minority and you're opening a topic that requires more then 10 brain cells. Typical soosmarkhor.

I was going by this in the article

It has no majority ethnic group, and the Persians, because of the negative birthrate, have already become a minority, although they are the largest minority among all other minorities, 24%.
 
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I was going by this in the article
Which article? A paragraph with no source is a paragraph with no source. Which hole did you pull it out off? Saying Parsi people are a minority (as in less than half) in Iran is akin to saying the Han are a minority in China. It's fucking ridiculous and moronic at best.
 
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