Erodgan shows EU who is the Boss

[Foinikas]

Reality is always reality

Your masters USA-France backed Greece , Armenia , HAFTAR , PKK/YPG are daydreamer team


btw Greece clears infamous Lavrion Camp long used by PKK terrorists

Greece clears infamous Lavrion Camp long used by PKK terrorists

Lavrion Camp's former inhabitants transferred to other facilities run by Migration Ministry, say police - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

If Anadolu says we're training Martians,will you put a tinfoil on your head?

 

[kingQamaR]

what are Russian warships going to do in the Mediterranean ? The entire Mediterranean Sea is within range of land based combat aircraft.

Still hugely important Dardanelles.

Even if Turkey was to be removed from NATO ,it would still be a major problem as it will have no obligation not to allow Russian navy access all the Black Sea routes. Turkey out of NATO will be a gift to the Russians.

 

[khansaheeb]

erdogan sultan has spoken.

Ertuğrul has spoken!

 

[kingQamaR]

Same old shit you've been posting 50,000 times a day in the forum for the last year.

And what did you do? You gave in to NATO's demands. Superpower Turkiye,indeed.

You forgot one very important reason Turkey is crucial to NATO defense. Turkey is a fortress. The mountains and harsh weather in the eastern parts makes the country very defensible , and this difficult terrain goes all the way to the coast. Even during the Cold War the plan in case of a Cold War turned Hot was for Turkey to hold back the Soviets in this harsh terrain until US forces arrived in mass. This is still the case even today. If Turkey was not part of Nato or it was removed, it would inevitably have to FORCEFULLY join CSTO for defense. This would be a huge blow to NATO not only because of Turkish Armed Forces and Economy or Geography, but also because of what is beyond Turkey. The Balkan’s . Greece and Bulgaria. These two are barely strong countries and if Turkey was to join CSTO or at least not be a part of either alliance, the Balkans would become another Baltic for NATO, a soft underbelly where bigger NATO forces would have to deploy a lot of their own troops to defend Greece and Bulgaria , just like Lithuania , Latvia and Estonia.

 

[Hero786]

Sweden courts allowed Quran to be burned,
But Erdogan is accepting Sweeden application to join Nato.

But Erdogan is boss. lolz
what a title of thread.

Many people are posting in pdf, Erdogan is Sultan, Ertugal. lol

In reality, Erdogan is dragging religion in politics like Modi, Imran Khan, Sharif mafia, Pakistani generals and etc, for their own benefits.

 

[Foinikas]

You forgot one very important reason Turkey is crucial to NATO defense. Turkey is a fortress. The mountains and harsh weather in the eastern parts makes the country very defensible , and this difficult terrain goes all the way to the coast. Even during the Cold War the plan in case of a Cold War turned Hot was for Turkey to hold back the Soviets in this harsh terrain until US forces arrived in mass. This is still the case even today. If Turkey was not part of Nato or it was removed, it would inevitably have to FORCEFULLY join CSTO for defense. This would be a huge blow to NATO not only because of Turkish Armed Forces and Economy or Geography, but also because of what is beyond Turkey. The Balkan’s . Greece and Bulgaria. These two are barely strong countries and if Turkey was to join CSTO or at least not be a part of either alliance, the Balkans would become another Baltic for NATO, a soft underbelly where bigger NATO forces would have to deploy a lot of their own troops to defend Greece and Bulgaria , just like Lithuania , Latvia and Estonia.

The whole thing is about the Straits. Nothing else. But NATO has been chicken for years,saying yes to Erdogan's whims.

 

[kingQamaR]

The whole thing is about the Straits. Nothing else. But NATO has been chicken for years,saying yes to Erdogan's whims.

Every country almost always uses their advantages to secure their own objectives no matter how selfish/ un-ethical such acts might be seen as.

Sweden courts allowed Quran to be burned,
But Erdogan is accepting Sweeden application to join Nato.

But Erdogan is boss. lolz
what a title of thread.

Many people are posting in pdf, Erdogan is Sultan, Ertugal. lol

In reality, Erdogan is dragging religion in politics like Modi, Imran Khan, Sharif mafia, Pakistani generals and etc, for their own benefits.

Instead of abusing Turkey (Erdogan) you should rather analyse WTF Sweden is doing with their country

 

[nahtanbob]

Stop dreaming and return to real world


NATO will become lame duck without Turkiye


1-- Turkiye has the 2nd strongest army in NATO after USA
Turkiye assumed the responsibility to protect southeastern border of the NATO Alliance during Cold War period. ..... and Russia is coming back

2-- Turkiye ( IZMIR ) hosts allied Land Command (LANDCOM) for the leading advocate for Soldiers and Land Forces in NATO

3-- Turkiye has great defense Industry to produce almost all weapons for NATO's fire power against Russia-China
( NATO invited the heads of 25 major Western defence companies including Turkish ROKETSAN and BAYKAR as efforts to ramp up ammunition production continue for military support to Ukraine )

4-- Turkiye control Bosphorus which is only gate way to the Black Sea against Russia
NATO can not enter the Black Sea , if Turkiye ally with Russia-China pact

5-- Russia and China will be in Turkiye instead of USA-NATO
China will be so happy to be in the Eastern Mediterranean for great respond to USA's military activities in China Sea, part of the western Pacific Ocean

and NATO will lose Eastern Mediterranean


6-- Turkiye has great influence in the Balkans and Caucasus for NATO

7-- NATO is so happy to operate against Iraq , Syria , Iran through Turkiye
Turkish Army was only NATO army which fought against ISIS in Syria

and Turkiye saved Europe from 4 million Syrian refugees


8 -- Turkiye is one of most active countries in NATO with USA and the UK
Turkish Forces played important role in Afghanistan , Lebanon , Kosovo , Bosnia , Somalia , etc

9 -- Thanks to Turkiye ( president ERDOGAN ) for grain agreement with Russia
the deal allows Ukraine to ship food and fertilizer through a humanitarian corridor from Black Sea ports.

10-- Turkiye ( KURECIK Base ) hosts American AN/TPY-2 early warning radar for NATO's integrated Air Defense umbrella to protect Europe from Russian and Iranian Ballistic Missile threat


what about useless countries like Sweden , Greece , Denmark ?
nothing for NATO

NATO is more a gateway to the Middle East than Europe

 

[Foinikas]

Instead of abusing Turkey (Erdogan) you should rather analyse WTF Sweden is doing with their country

Sweden doesn't threaten me,so why should I care?

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

The fact that Turkey begs for 4th generation jets shows how capable its 'fifth gen jets' are. Sounds like its 5th gen has capability of F-14s thats why they begging for F-16s


If it is good would they be begging for 4th gen F-16s? Propaganda with nothing to back it up in reality.

well F16V is 4.5 gen and it is more advanced then any aircraft that china or russia has.

Sweden courts allowed Quran to be burned,
But Erdogan is accepting Sweeden application to join Nato.

But Erdogan is boss. lolz
what a title of thread.

Many people are posting in pdf, Erdogan is Sultan, Ertugal. lol

In reality, Erdogan is dragging religion in politics like Modi, Imran Khan, Sharif mafia, Pakistani generals and etc, for their own benefits.

What do you expect Erdogan to do go out on the streets and burn the swedish embassy like your countrymen?

 

[KAL-EL]

a wet pink juicy f35 for you erdo baby.

Plump n Juicy

 

[Azadkashmir]

Plump n Juicy

erdogan will now add this to his harem collection.

 

[KAL-EL]

erdogan will now add this to his harem collection.

And one hell of a Harem collection it must be

 

[MMM-E]

Sweden doesn't threaten me,so why should I care?

He is talking to muslim Pakistani member , not to you
and burning Quran hurts all muslims in the world

NATO is more a gateway to the Middle East than Europe

without Turkiye , NATO is not a gateway to the Middle East

 

[Foinikas]

NATO is not a gateway to the Middle East

British bases at Dhekelia and Akrotiri in Cyprus are a gateway for NATO to the Middle-East.