Agreed. but give chance to who ?
CHP has a very incompetent leader called Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu....he said "I will give autonomy to Kurds" (Genel Başkanlık seçim konuşmasında). I believe they would fvck up the country. Çankaya Belediyesi (CHP) görüp görebileceğin en rüşvetçi belediyedir. (Proje bakan mimarı, mühendisinden tut, arşivcisine kadar rüşvet alırlar.)
MHP has a walking dead as a leader whom lost 12 elections.
They are all bad....that's why Erdogan gets keep elected, he has virtually no alternative.
Exactly....they are either pro-government or anti-government.
I read Milliyet, Hürriyet, Internet Haber, Ensonhaber, Sözcü, Cumhuriyet to balance.
I think Erdogan would flee to Qatar the moment he loses an election.
Ideally if I could make the choice, I would give every seat in parliament to HEPAR. Efsane komutan bir guzel temizler ulkeyi
Regarding that quote of Kilicdaroglu, if he really said that in those words then it would be wrong.
But if he really said it like that and meant it, would he recently have been re-elected as head of CHP?
Realistically I hope a CHP + MHP alliance would be great. Especially with Kemal Dervis for the economy.
It just simply can not be worse than AKP. Just the fact that they protect and praise a dirtbag like Hakan Fidan should be enough to see the danger.
I am not saying these parties are perfect, but they are good. Kilicdaroglu at least respects the constitution and we will be assured that Turkey won't turn into an islamist dictatorship which puts the arabs interests before Turkey and alienates important allies like Israel.
Yes, I am curious what he will do when akp won't get a majority seat
No, that's not normal either, i agree.
If you ask for my opinion... Looking at the current political parties, they are all bad in their own ways. I openly say i support akp, thats not due their Islamic ideology though, but rather due to my conviction that the akp truly has done more for Turkey relatively. Whoever performs gets my vote, unless they are hdp/bdp, one of those small commie or ultra religious parties.
I know that the akp is not perfect, just like any party, but despite their flaws i believe Turkey at the moment (especially with the current opposition in mind) is still better off with akp. Corruption should be punished for without exception, but i dont see that as a reason to remove a whole party (some just use it as an excuse to get rid of the akp).
Failed foreign policy... I think there is not much to win or lose if we look at our neighborhood, though i tend to think that Akp could have done better. Our neighbors are not the friendly types, no matter how friendly you are to them. Greece, Armenia, Russia, Iran are not really trustworthy anyway to say the least. Turkey should have focussed only on trade and less political intervention in Arab countries imo. The whole Syria affair is kind of mixed, its too soon to call it failed or as a win. Morally i dont agree with supporting the FSA, but in geopolitics being moral all the time wont bring you far. Sometimes you need to get dirty to secure your interests.
Why do you think the foreign policy has failed?
To be honest, I don't understand well what you mean by 'not having separation of powers' or 'disregard for the constitution'? Got the feeling i missed something.
Imo Turkey's booming economy will not be sustainable in the long term unless the transformation from technology buyer to technology producer and seller accelerates. In any case, i'm thankful for Dervis for reviving the economy and the akp for pulling through the economy, despite the ups and downs, so far, but also for their the confidence they give to the people, that Turkey indeed can be self sufficient and technology developing nation.
lol, not only that, it is also quite hard to find someone who dares to admit or agree with a supporter of another party. Usually such topics don't end well, you see. Welcome to the forum, by the way bro.
Regarding the foreign policy: I don't have any evidence to back it up, but my gut feeling is that the economical succes gave erdogan such a high that the power simply went to his head and he thought of himself as some kind of superpower. With all his support for islamists all over the middle-east and even shaking hands with hamas terrorists just destroyed Turkeys image in the civilised world and killed Turkeys soft power.
Relations with Israel & Egypt are just bad at the moment due to erdogan.
He needs to stop interfering with other nations business and the constant critisizing.
Plus his sectarian leanings at home don't do any good either, whether it is demonizing alevis or letting his islamist news outlets fuel anti-semitism in Turkey and endangering Turkish Jews who throughout history have done only good for the republic.
he just simply alienates groups instead of preaching peace and harmony.
Regarding the constitution: in your opinion, do you think he honors his presidential oath of remaining impartial?
And prosecutors and even judges being fired or arrested when they don't follow erdogans will pretty much explains all.
Mate, this is another complicated situation....
Insulting the President is punishable by prison sentence by constitution.
The issue is previous presidents have all been respected by people....there were very rare cases only one against Abdullah gül and Ahmet Necdet Sezer.
Mate, i was in Gezi protests in Kızılay/Ankara....people were shouting "SoB Tayyip" in the streets and writing it on the walls. He is being loathed by many people.
Yeap....at the past it was not excellent either but it had gotten worse.....
I mean when the president prays for the souls of the 9 people got killed in Mavi Marmara.
But calls the youth who got killed in the Gezi protests, terrorists.....you know our word for it.. (İmam osurursa cemaat sıçarmış)
Yes, and calling Berkin Elvan a terrorisy without any shame, cursing Berkins mother and yet when someone makes some accusation with arguments to back it up, prosecuters suddenly pop up to sue them.
Yet when it comes to islamists insulting Ataturk, they do nothing. Erdogan clearly has the judicial system by the balls.
