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Erdogan: Protecting Jerusalem a Muslim obligation

Jersuleuem should be made a city-state like the Vatican.

It's a holy site for Jews,Christians, and Muslims.
It's Israeli capital

Well make it a government system like Bosnia. 3 Presidents for every religious group with their own legislation
Jerusalem already has freedom of religion

It would then become like Rome vs Constantinople 2.0 I bet Jerusalem will have more "religious capital" than Vatican itself... Very powerful if good balance is achievable for the 3 religions.
Jerusalem has no religious issues

... I don't know ... why that region always has so much bloodshed
Hint: religion

Your capital? Isn't that Tel Aviv?

Jerusalem belongs to all faiths and peoples. Deal with it.
No its Jerusalem

Indeed, the most fair solution, and the keys should be handed to an outsider. I take my inspiration from the church of the holy sepulchre, whose gates have been opened by the same Muslim family every day since the time of Salahdin, because the Christian sects could not agree on who should have the keys to the church. In the same way, the keys of Jerusalem should be handed to outsiders and should be an internationally run city, where Christians, Muslims and Jews should all be given the right to their religious sites unhindered. Sounds utopian I know but then again the Christian sects in the mediaeval age would have said the same thing about the solution to the key issue of the holiest church in Christianity.
It was proposed during 1947 partition plan but Arabs rejected it

You pagons will be driven out of the holy city sooner or later .
It was never Jewish and never will be .
Jerusalem was always jewish
 
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When and where?
As soon as the theory invented in russia about 100 years ago.
The russian invented the theory to rise the russian nationalism,they said that the russian jews are khazars,which means that they are ignorant and all the problem of russia is because of them,then they said that lenin and stalin were their puppets and blah blah,then the theory was spread to ukraine and east europe and then to west europe,the communist at that time help to spread that theory too and the anti-semite europe of the 20 century "hugged" the theory,and also expanded it to "all european jews are khazars and this is why the jews are ignorant race".
Now let's go back to the past, in a world dominated by two major religions-christianity and islam,the khazarian king want to adopt a neutral religion In order not to quarrel with the two major religions,he finally chose judaism,and then he and his elite were converted to judaism,some say that only him or his family converted and some say that all the khazarian elitists
so numbers are between 1-500 khazars who converted.
The khazars and the jews were not consider the converted as part of the jewish people/nation,they considered them as khazarian who believes in the Jewish faith.
After the fall of their kingdom, they were gone, no more khazars.
About the ashkenazim -
Historical and genetic studies recently have shown what the Jews said all the time
Ashkenazi origin is from the levant.
Khazar theory today mainly used by anti-semites or certain interest groups,not taking into consideration that the jews didn't consider themselves as pure race.
 
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You have Azerbaijan flag in your nationality flag...and Kavkaz Jew...I wondered if you are Turk or not.....If you are not Turk....? Which nationality ?
I'm israeli,my family came from the caucasus,my father side from baku,and i have family ties to the aliyev family(the presidents)also my mother lived with azeris in dagestan,this is why the flag
 
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Erdo may have trumpeted "protecting Jerusalem as a Muslim obligation" but did not commit to any action on his part or Turkey's to do so. I suppose this is Erdo "covering his bases" - appealing to the supremacists in words while taking the opposite tack in deeds. Nobody understands the follies of his or her own people better than a successful autocrat!
 
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I'm israeli,my family came from the caucasus,my father side from baku,and i have family ties to the aliyev family(the presidents)also my mother lived with azeris in dagestan,this is why the flag
Then why don't you consider yourself as an Azeri Turk ?
 
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Because i'm not,i'm a jew,israeli,i've never been in azerbaijan
Then why would you put up....Azeri flag....

And this brings us to, your post number 34. I failed to understand you

@xenon54 Can you look at our discussion with Mountain Jet ? Do you understand him ?
 
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We, jews in general and specifically in Israel,loves to identify by our community(community in exile) when we speak between ourselvs,for example my friends call me "caucasian" and i call them "russian" "persian" "halabi" "moroccan".
Because most of us or our parents/grandparents came from different places,with different mentality.
You got it? if not , i will explain more.
 
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The russian invented the theory to rise the russian nationalism,they said that the russian jews are khazars,which means that they are ignorant and all the problem of russia is because of them,then they said that lenin and stalin were their puppets and blah blah,then the theory was spread to ukraine and east europe and then to west europe,the communist at that time help to spread that theory too and the anti-semite europe of the 20 century "hugged" the theory,and also expanded it to "all european jews are khazars and this is why the jews are ignorant race".
Now let's go back to the past, in a world dominated by two major religions-christianity and islam,the khazarian king want to adopt a neutral religion In order not to quarrel with the two major religions,he finally chose judaism,and then he and his elite were converted to judaism,some say that only him or his family converted and some say that all the khazarian elitists
so numbers are between 1-500 khazars who converted.
The khazars and the jews were not consider the converted as part of the jewish people/nation,they considered them as khazarian who believes in the Jewish faith.
After the fall of their kingdom, they were gone, no more khazars.
About the ashkenazim -
Historical and genetic studies recently have shown what the Jews said all the time
Ashkenazi origin is from the levant.
Khazar theory today mainly used by anti-semites or certain interest groups,not taking into consideration that the jews didn't consider themselves as pure race.


Really? That the best you could come up with?


Top Israeli scientist says Ashkenazi Jews came from Khazaria, not Palestine
https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/top-is...kenazi-jews-came-from-khazaria-not-palestine/


New Genetic Study Reportedly Proves Khazar Ancestry For Ashkenazi Jews

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/fa...s-khazar-ancestry-for-ashkenazi-jews-567.html


Report: New Genetic Study Says Ashkenazi Jews Descend from Khazars
http://matzav.com/report-new-genetic-study-says-ashkenazi-jews-descend-from-khazars/

The Invention of the Jewish People
by Shlomo Sand


A Resource for Turkic and Jewish History in Russia and Ukraine
http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-quotes.html


A Resource for Turkic and Jewish History in Russia and Ukraine
http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-quotes.html


Israeli geneticist: Ashkenazi jews come from Turkish villages, not Palestine
https://www.sott.net/article/316826...jews-come-from-Turkish-villages-not-Palestine


Israeli Historian: Palestinians Are Biological Descendants of Bible’s Jews - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2008/09/israe...ns-are-biological-descendants-of-bibles-jews/

The Palestinians are descendants of the ancient Israelites
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/09/17/the-palestinians-are-descendants-of-the-ancient-israelites/


Sorry...





my father side from baku,and i have family ties to the alive family(the presidents)also my mother lived with azeris in dagestan,this is why the flag

On my mothers side I am distantly descended from Circassians and Turks. Does that mean I put their flags there or identify as either?
 
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We, jews in general and specifically in Israel,loves to identify by our community(community in exile) when we speak between ourselvs,for example my friends call me "caucasian" and i call them "russian" "persian" "halabi" "moroccan".
Because most of us or our parents/grandparents came from different places,with different mentality.
You got it? if not , i will explain more.
Kind of.....i learned a different thing today. :)
 
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Then why would you put up....Azeri flag....

And this brings us to, your post number 34. I failed to understand you

@xenon54 Can you look at our discussion with Mountain Jet ? Do you understand him ?
I think what he means is that his family is originating from Azerbaijan but they arent ethnic Azeris, like Turkish Jews not being ethnic Turks.
 
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Really? That the best you could come up with?


Top Israeli scientist says Ashkenazi Jews came from Khazaria, not Palestine
https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/top-is...kenazi-jews-came-from-khazaria-not-palestine/


New Genetic Study Reportedly Proves Khazar Ancestry For Ashkenazi Jews

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/fa...s-khazar-ancestry-for-ashkenazi-jews-567.html


Report: New Genetic Study Says Ashkenazi Jews Descend from Khazars
http://matzav.com/report-new-genetic-study-says-ashkenazi-jews-descend-from-khazars/

The Invention of the Jewish People
by Shlomo Sand


A Resource for Turkic and Jewish History in Russia and Ukraine
http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-quotes.html


A Resource for Turkic and Jewish History in Russia and Ukraine
http://www.khazaria.com/khazar-quotes.html


Israeli geneticist: Ashkenazi jews come from Turkish villages, not Palestine
https://www.sott.net/article/316826...jews-come-from-Turkish-villages-not-Palestine


Israeli Historian: Palestinians Are Biological Descendants of Bible’s Jews - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2008/09/israe...ns-are-biological-descendants-of-bibles-jews/

The Palestinians are descendants of the ancient Israelites
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/09/17/the-palestinians-are-descendants-of-the-ancient-israelites/


Sorry...
The scientific community didn't accept the theory,everyone can make a research and get to any possible conclusion.
It doesn't mean they're right,there is research which says that sugar is healthy,so?we all know it's not true.
What the scientific community is accepting is that ashkenazi jews have levantine origin,and it's kind of disapprove the khazar theory.
 
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The scientific community didn't accept the theory,everyone can make a research and get to any possible conclusion.
It doesn't mean they're right,there is research which says that sugar is healthy,so?we all know it's not true.
What the scientific community is accepting is that ashkenazi jews have levantine origin,and it's kind of disapprove the khazar theory.


The scientific community is divided across the middle. A lot has been proven. Deal with it Jew, You are a Turk.

Whats so bad about being a Turk?
 
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On my mothers side I am distantly descended from Circassians and Turks. Does that mean I put their flags there or identify as either?
you didn't get it,you said you're descended from Circassians and Turks and you don't put their flag,i'm not evev descended from azeri/dagestani people,but the flag is a statement,that i'm not just a jew,i have special history,special mentality etc,It's my identity among Jews.
@xenon54 @Sinan
 
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