Erdogan not welcome for "referendum campaign" in Austria and Germany

[blondeturkish]

I dont care about Erdogan and i assure you the majority of Europeans give a shit about that referendum.

This has reached another level. To make it clear, the message is: Who is boss in your own house?

You should see the comment sections in european media. The people are foaming. Blaming politicians like Merkel for evry concession done towards Turkey for their weakness.

Merkel faces election in autumn. She cant afford to appear as weak.

Same counts for Netherlands and Austria.

Unfortunately your foreign minister doesnt seem very intelligent. As Netherlands PM Rutte banned him from entering yesterday it was your foreign Minister who said: "I go where i want".

This sentence makes his entry into Netherlands absolute impossible. If their PM Rutte would let this happen he could step down.

So tell me, where in your comment do you take into consideration that the Germans dont want turkish politicians on German soil doing propaganda? That the austrian population doesnt want this in Austria and the dutch dont want it in the Netherlands? This has reached the area of patriotism and is far above "not wanting Erdogan".

I give you a hint. The mayor of the German town Gaggenau who banned the turkish event was celebrated by the media and people has a hero, while Merkel was blamed as pathetic weakling for not commenting this first.

You can count 1 and 1 together.

you seem to have low IQ and don't understand what the guys are saying. even though i don't like erdogan and his undemocratic policies. this baning will benefit him more than it would harm him, and it is going to be rallying cry for the majority of conservative who vote for him, and Germany would be the boogeman. and for you saying european are not intrested in Turkish politics then why do german politican and newspapers talk and write more about Turkey then Italy or islovenia for that matter? maybe nobody cares the over run mafia african migrants place you are from, thats why you don't see your country in major GERMAN news headlines...

 

[ValerioAurelius]

you seem to have low IQ and don't understand what the guys are saying. even though i don't like erdogan and his undemocratic policies. this baning will benefit him more than it would harm him, and it is going to be rallying cry for the majority of conservative who vote for him, and Germany would be the boogeman. and for you saying european are not intrested in Turkish politics then why do german politican and newspapers talk and write more about Turkey then Italy or islovenia for that matter? maybe nobody cares the over run mafia african migrants place you are from, thats why you don't see your country in major GERMAN news headlines...

You seem to dont understand that the "PUBLIC" doesnt want foreign politicians make propaganda on their soil.

 

[SMS Derfflinger]

@T-123456 and @Sinan This was my question, thanks for the answer.

Most of those in favor of AKP are planning to go back(they never have seen themselves as a part of the German society),those who are part of the German society will not vote(maybe some anti votes if ever) and if they do,not for AKP.
Im sure you know the difference.
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Yes, I know the difference and go along with you, maybe except with the case of emigrating back, there i have a different opinion, but this isn`t for this thread.

You seem to dont understand that the "PUBLIC" doesnt want foreign politicians make propaganda on their soil.

The "PUBLIC" wouldn`t care about the entire mess, if the media and politics didn`t make a thing of this. Now, we have the garbage, everyone is too proud or has something to lose, if he take a step back...as a consequence we have hardened fronts.
Great example, how both sides fail to solve the situation diplomatically, before it reach a public dimension.

I can remember me, it had given some critics at the last turkish election as the AKP went on voter hunting in Germany, but as long we allowing other foreign persons to make promotion here, like Obama, i cannot see the moral right to deny it elected turkish politicians. But I must agree on a personal level the volume of this, distracted me.

Moreover the absence of the opposition disturb me more, or have they already make a calculation at decided it isn`t worth, because they have no chance to change anything here?

Nevertheless, i think we can close the thread with Sinan`s words, because there is nothing left to be added.

Markuss we all know, this is happening for Europeans distaste for Erdoğan.

But god dammit you are doing it wrong.

- Allow AKP to do propaganda in Germany. It benefits them.
- Not Allowing AKP to do propaganda in Germany. It benefits them more.

Now Turkish opposition parties also criticize Germany for their decision because if they don't criticize, AKP will benefit even more...

If you want to harm Erdoğan at least do something smart and harm him.....

 

[ValerioAurelius]

@T-123456 and @Sinan This was my question, thanks for the answer.


Yes, I know the difference and go along with you, maybe except with the case of emigrating back, there i have a different opinion, but this isn`t for this thread.


The "PUBLIC" wouldn`t care about the entire mess, if the media and politics didn`t make a thing of this. Now, we have the garbage, everyone is too proud or has something to lose, if he take a step back...as a consequence we have hardened fronts.
Great example, how both sides fail to solve the situation diplomatically, before it reach a public dimension.

I can remember me, it had given some critics at the last turkish election as the AKP went on voter hunting in Germany, but as long we allowing other foreign persons to make promotion here, like Obama, i cannot see the moral right to deny it elected turkish politicians. But I must agree on a personal level the volume of this, distracted me.

Moreover the absence of the opposition disturb me more, or have they already make a calculation at decided it isn`t worth, because they have no chance to change anything here?

Nevertheless, i think we can close the thread with Sinan`s words, because there is nothing left to be added.

Well Germany is without any form of respectable government. I pity you. A creature like Merkel would be hunted out of office in Italy.

 

[SMS Derfflinger]

I`m so forgetful, do Italy acually have any government or are you in elections...once again.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

I`m so forgetful, do Italy acually have any government or are you in elections...once again.

We have a government. And we have borders. Something you lack. How does it feel to have such a weak chancellor? I guess you are male, aren´t you?

 

[SMS Derfflinger]

Mate, you don't have borders, you have a very good Shuttleservice.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Mate, you don't have borders, you have a very good Shuttleservice.

It ended with Renzi.

Did Merkel end too?

A nation should never be ruled from a weak women like her. She is pathetic.

 

[SMS Derfflinger]

It ended with Renzi.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/05/migrant-rescues-med-hit-three-year-high-new-data-shows/

Did Merkel end too?

Maybe, the chances are higher since Schulz is in the game, but the result were, we would get a EU-commie as chancellor.

A nation should never be ruled from a weak women like her. She is pathetic.

Lol. didn`t you say she is a great genius in the past...?

 

[SMS Derfflinger]

Your good right and therefore we can closed the discussion.

 

[schoolboy]

It is incredible rude and the lowest form on the diplomatic floor to make interior politics on the soil of a foreign nation.

+1

Erdogan's hubris was apparent in his state visits to Pakistan, Morocco and Senegal where he chose to use those as platforms to attack Golen. Well, those countries might tolerate such behaviour - though I read that many in Pakistan were not amused by his diatribe - and he might have gotten the perception that it's cool to act in this manner.

I do agree, though, that this will allow him to play the victim card - though that in itself is no reason why Germany should have tolerated a political speech by his minister.

 

[SMS Derfflinger]

It`s this true, i have read today, it`s forbidden to campaign in foreign countries by turkish law and Yüksek Secim Kurulu?