Erdogan in China

[SamranAli]

lets wait until we get freedom frm bad leaders and join the way of success again.

 

[LeGenD]

Compared to the disproportionate response by America and it's war of terror it is minor relatively I would say.

Does this justify Chinese persecution? Persecution of muslims in any part of the world by any party should be condemned. Why the double-standards?

Muslim states 'silent' on Uighurs - Asia-Pacific - Al Jazeera English

Taliban did offer to give Osama up before Afghanistan was attacked

Not to US, which was the original demand.

Guess what? Taliban failed to honor its obligations to protect Osama anyways.

 

[lem34]

You need to explore Pakistan a bit more then.

Unsolicited advice is always self serving. When I need or want advise from you I will let you know. Until that you can go back to sleep.

Does this justify Chinese persecution? Persecution of muslims in any part of the world by any party should be condemned. Why the double-standards?

Muslim states 'silent' on Uighurs - Asia-Pacific - Al Jazeera English


Not to US, which was the original demand.

Guess what? Taliban failed to honor its obligations to protect Osama anyways.

We do not on this thread need your input to go off topic we have already regrettably managed on a few occasions. This thread is to discuss the visit by Erdogan to China and to celebrate growing economic links links which will benefit both Turkish and Chinese people

 

[fd24]

I remember a while back how a guy emailed me horrifying videos of what some Kurds had to suffer during the operations by Turkey. Similarly I know for a fact how we - in Pakistan - butcher the Baloch Tribesmen, how we (to use the line of an analyst) through them off helicopters, carve out 'Pakistan Zindabad - Long Live Pakistan' on their bodies and all sorts of gruesome sh*t that we do....and yet the Irfan Baloch or the Pakistan Nationalist, our resident Baloch, on PDF would tell you a different story ! You have to realize that its possible that there are grievances but its also sure as hell possible that they may be deliberately being used to malign China ! Just as I don't believe that the Turkish Army is walking the streets of some Kurdish Towns with a machete and I don't believe that the Pakistan Army is engaged in gross human rights abuses, just as I know that there is something called 'Information War', that 'Propaganda Videos' are a very real thing - I think the same benefit of the doubt should be extended to China !

Well said - There is no society that can put its hand up and say their has never been mistakes made. Lately the propaganda machine of the west has been working overtime to portray a negative picture as regards to China. Selective criticism from the western media - a case of "we will decide who to put down and who not to put down".

 

[longyi]

i have nothing against China or the Chinese people, i never insulted you nor was my intention to create tension between our members, i honestly believe that Turkey would be China's best, most trustable, relaible partner in the region.. definitively we have many similarities as people too. That's my views about China but saying this doesnt mean we'll sacrifice the Uygur people and ignore them just for the interests..

Aside for increase ties in economic and other area between the 2 countries, the main reason for Mr. Erdogan visit is to assist China to find a peaceful solution on the Uygur issues. You can clearly see that from his visit to the Uygur population area.

China's positions are very clear. She has 56 ethnic groups and every group are treated equal by the existing Constitution and laws. Social harmony and security are a must disregard ethnicity.

Perhaps there are works to be done in the religion area and we hope Mr. Erdogan's contribution can help.

 

[LeGenD]

Unsolicited advice is always self serving. When I need or want advise from you I will let you know. Until that you can go back to sleep.

Sorry! I am not willing to close my eyes in the light of rampant hypocrisy of some fellow brethren. I represent a 'broad-minded side' of Pakistan, which is neither afraid of zonism and nor is willing to shy from truth.

You keep blaming Pakistani leadership of being American stooge at any given opportunity. The entire Pakistani nation deserves to be blamed for this CRIME because this nation 'allows' American stooges to gain power and run this nation. For example: Zardari will complete his 5 year term regardless of your point of view. Thank you.

We do not on this thread need your input to go off topic we have already regrettably managed on a few occasions. This thread is to discuss the visit by Erdogan to China and to celebrate growing economic links links which will benefit both Turkish and Chinese people

This advice applies to you as well.

It is a good thing that Turkish leader has visited China regardless of his agenda.

When I had a first look at this thread, I read this post:

Has he taken another "letter" from Obama to China, just like the recent one he delivered to Iran from Obama?

When a smart member corrected this member on his silly response, you jumped in to defend this member and your typical argument was centered around AIPAC and zonism. And then you and some fellow Turkish members had some exchanges on this matter and some of your points reeked with hypocrisy - which I touched in my responses.

I know how to connect the dots.

 

[fd24]

Sorry! I am not willing to close my eyes in the light of rampant hypocrisy of some fellow brethren. I represent a 'broad-minded side' of Pakistan, which is neither afraid of zonism and nor is willing to shy from truth.

You keep blaming Pakistani leadership of being American stooge at any given opportunity. The entire Pakistani nation deserves to be blamed for this CRIME because this nation 'allows' American stooges to gain power and run this nation. For example: Zardari will complete his 5 year term regardless of your point of view. Thank you.


This advice applies to you as well.

It is a good thing that Turkish leader has visited China regardless of his agenda.

When I had a first look at this thread, I read this post:



When a smart member corrected this member on his silly response, you jumped in to defend this member and your typical argument was centered around AIPAC and zonism. And then you and some fellow Turkish members had some exchanges on this matter and some of your points reeked with hypocrisy - which I touched in my responses.

I know how to connect the dots.

You may well know how to connect the dots? Do you not understand English? This thread does not require your assistance to go off topic. Look at the topic then look at you post.

 

[lem34]

You may well know how to connect the dots? Do you not understand English? This thread does not require your assistance to go off topic. Look at the topic then look at you post.

He is just playing to the gallery yaar. Just ignore him. I will. What's the big deal let him have his rant. Entertaining him only serves to derail the topic. Lets just be positive about the visit of Erdogan to China which will benefit the peoples of two friendly nations

 

[IbnAlwaled]

POLITICS - Turkey PM meets China's Wen after Xinjiang trip

Basically Wen's telling Turkey if they go to war against Syria don't come crying to us when Russia strikes back.

LOOOOL
Turkey WILL do whatever turkey wants.
There are lots of reports that Turkey is about to secure a safe zone in north Syria. I pray that they do.
Erdogan is visiting Saudi Arabia very soon I hope its for cordinating a double assult.
Russia will just sit back and complain in the UN. BTW Turkey has nukes.

 

[IbnAlwaled]

HAHAH WHAT ARE TURKS KNOWN FOR ? ASK EVERYONE NON SIDED THEY WILL SAY FOOD ( KEBAB , BAKLAVA) AND MOST EUROPE ESPECIALLY AUSTRIA ETC BALKAN ETC OTTOMAN EMPIRE AND CONQUERIRING THEY WILL SAY , EVEN IN LATIN AMERICA ASK ANYONE THEY WILL NOT HAVE MUCH THOUGHT ABOUT US BUT FREINDSHIP MOSTLY , ASK MOST PEOPLE ABOUT CHINESE THEY WILL HATE , LOL REFUSED MEMBERSHIP FOR EEC? YE BUT WE DNT RELY ON THAT SO WHO CARES ,

You're also known to make popular tv drama/romance series.
I dont't watch them but for some reason they are Very popular in Arab tv.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Well here is the question why is Turkey so eager about Syria??? what is the interest of Turkey in Syria????? it's obviously not for god sake so for whom sake then.

 

[IbnAlwaled]

Well here is the question why is Turkey so eager about Syria??? what is the interest of Turkey in Syria????? it's obviously not for god sake so for whom sake then.

For the devil/zionist/cia sake obviously

 

[Mosamania]

For the devil/zionist/cia sake obviously

Lol Waleed remember the old times in KSA when everything here was also Zionist/CIA conspiracies too??? Man we were so pathetic really sad to see people so pathetic right now as well.

 

[IbnAlwaled]

Lol Waleed remember the old times in KSA when everything here was also Zionist/CIA conspiracies too??? Man we were so pathetic really sad to see people so pathetic right now as well.

Yea most of these conspiracies usually occupy only empty minds. No matter how much you try educating these people they will just include you in this grand conspiracy to destroy them. We need to give them time to catchup.

 

[Cem_]

Erdogan warned Assad even from China,this means: hey Assad, even China won't save you if we decide to come u'r way.. So better becareful..