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Coming on this forum over the last year has been an eye opener. When I used to talk about Arabs, Iran Turkey or Pakistan I used to think of these countries as my own. That is the way I was brought up. I used to take this as granted. I used to wish for an EEC type of arrangement where we too could have free movement of goods and people to mutual benefit. But I realise now that this is futile. When I see west discriminate purely cos I am Muslim or against Muslim countries it used to hurt. I used to think if I had an argument with one of you I could always be sure that it wasn't discrimination based on religion

There is a lot of things wrong with Pakistan. The leadership for example stating it is poor is an understatement. When I am critical of my country of origin I do it because I hurt to see the mess and problems we face and I do it from a point of view of wanting improvement and wishing well for my country.

I am sure there are Turks within Turkey that have differing views to how she should conduct foreign policy but you would never question their loyalty to Turkey.

When I have been critical of for example Sauds it's in the same vein and I wish Arabs all the best.

I used to do the same with other countries that I named. However people like you have made me realise that may be that is foolish.

I will not enter or talk into Turkish discussions as if Turkey was my country. It is yours. I am sorry if my past statements have has caused you or any other Turk offence. That was not my intention.

Aryan_B, i am not buying it mate..Sorry..I observed your posts for the last week..You accused Turkey for being Israel`s puppet, Nato`s postman etc etc. I have a very big "love" for Pakistan, but i never lurk in this forum`s Pakistan section and accusing Pakistan is this or that..First, its not my business, Second the probability of offending my Pakistani friends or brothers would kill me..You are of course free to write anything you wish..I wont respond your posts anymore

Respect! I can understand you. I was also bought up the same way - believing in Islamic brotherhood. But still I'm hated if I try to judge any situation neutrally, be it for the Turks, Arabs or anybody else!:confused: Very few people can accept criticism, acknowledge and work on improving them!

Werent you the one who said that Russia will nuke Turkey and told me to use my internet freely until that date comes??, Werent you the one who was sending messages to Pakistanis on their profiles that they should stop being friends with Turkey and side with Russia when they would "nuke" Turkey??? Show your true face S-19..And dont lie here..We are not that stupid..
 
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Ignore the troll ottoman-turk.

Shut up...

Diversifying our friendship is definately a step in right direction. Just because the US is our friends does not mean we have to stay hostile towards China, utter bullsh1t.

What US?! It's about Uygurs! Or is there a obligation that Turks should only support Palestinians and ignore the Uygurs AH?! you hypocrite iki yuzlu munafik seni, onlar muslumanda bunlar ne?!!

China will be the biggest economy in a few years. We have to strengthen our friendship.

We cannot ignore Uygurs suffering.. Period!
 
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Werent you the one who said that Russia will nuke Turkey and told me to use my internet freely until that date comes??, Werent you the one who was sending messages to Pakistanis on their profiles that they should stop being friends with Turkey and side with Russia when they would "nuke" Turkey??? Show your true face S-19..And dont lie here..We are not that stupid..

I said Russia has the potential to nuke Turkey in a war. Isn't that a reality?

I said Turkey being NATO member has worked against Pakistani interests in the past (Like the afghan conference in Turkey). So, Pakistan should look after its national interests more than friendship with Turkey. Isn't that reality?

I did not post in any pakistani profile saying they should stop being friends with turkey.

@ S-19

PKK has thousands of armed militants, they use deadly force, on the otherhand you have men, women, old and young peaceful protesters which are Uygurs.. No such organized armed attacks against china..

You are truly an ignorant fellow. All of these Uyghur terrorists are armed to the teeth with weapons supplied by the CIA. THey have caused multiple bomb blasts and insurgency throughout China in the past JUST like PKK has done to Turkey.
 
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Aryan_B, i am not buying it mate..Sorry..I observed your posts for the last week..You accused Turkey for being Israel`s puppet, Nato`s postman etc etc. I have a very big "love" for Pakistan, but i never lurk in this forum`s Pakistan section and accusing Pakistan is this or that..First, its not my business, Second the probability of offending my Pakistani friends or brothers would kill me..You are of course free to write anything you wish..I wont respond your posts anymore

Don't buy it. I don't care any more. I still stand by what I have said. If you want to take it personally or as an attack against your country so be it. I am fully aware of your govt duplicity when push comes to shove you fall on American and or Nato side. This is a Pakistani forum and I will comment where I feel it appropriate.

Neither do I nor would I want Pakistan to expect anything from you or Turkey any more than any other nation in the UN. That is to say I am not for Turkey any more nor am I against Turkey.
 
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I said Russia has the potential to nuke Turkey in a war. Isn't that a reality?

I said Turkey has worked against Pakistani interests in the past (Like the afghan conference in Turkey). So, Pakistan should look after its national interests more than friendship with Turkey. Isn't that reality?

I did not post in any pakistani profile saying they should stop being friends with turkey.

DRaisinHerald can confirm what i told...You said that right after you said your Arab "Brothers" are smelly and dirty..Will you deny that too? Be a man and accept what you did
 
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You are truly an ignorant fellow. All of these Uyghur terrorists are armed to the teeth with weapons supplied by the CIA. THey have caused multiple bomb blasts and insurgency throughout China in the past.

Let them be mate. No point in having discussions when they result in personal attacks and cause ill will.
 
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DRaisinHerald can confirm what i told...You said that right after you said your Arab "Brothers" are smelly and dirty..Will you deny that too? Be a man and accept what you did

I apologized to Mosamania for that. And he accepted my apologies. Do you want to see my posts apologizing? Unlike you, I do recognise when I make mistake and I also apologize promptly.:tup:

Let them be mate. No point in having discussions when they result in personal attacks and cause ill will.

Agreed, that will be my last post in this issue here.
 
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DRaisinHerald can confirm what i told...You said that right after you said your Arab "Brothers" are smelly and dirty..Will you deny that too? Be a man and accept what you did

have you seen the level of intellectually challenged Arab members we have on the forum? there is about 4 of them going around telling us which of us are Muslims and which are not. At the heat of the moment I can well understand some saying things like that
 
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Wasn't Erdogan crying about Genocide to China when the Turks commited their own genocide they still deny to this day hypocrisy.

Because some Turks feel antipathy towards Erdogan or USA, that should not make Turks sympathethic towards China.

China was and still is a potential foe, we cannot blindly believe in them. Remember Uighurs, remember history lessons.

And China starts supporting Kurds and Kurdistan ?
 
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@ S-19
You are truly an ignorant fellow. All of these Uyghur terrorists are armed to the teeth with weapons supplied by the CIA. THey have caused multiple bomb blasts and insurgency throughout China in the past JUST like PKK has done to Turkey.


When lying becomes a habit you keep denigrating yourself.. Uygurs don't have any ''known'' organized armed groups like that of the PKK.. just don't lie for once for f@#$ sake..
 
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I apologized to Mosamania for that. And he accepted my apologies. Do you want to see my posts apologizing? Unlike you, I do recognise when I make mistake and I also apologize promptly.:tup:



Agreed, that will be my last post in this issue here.

Unlike me? I never use such words to the people i call "Brother" Thats the difference
 
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have you seen the level of intellectually challenged Arab members we have on the forum? there is about 4 of them going around telling us which of us are Muslims and which are not. At the heat of the moment I can well understand some saying things like that

Dear brother, I don't deny I made a mistake. I sincerely apologized for that:

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