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I really doubt you were any better than any ME country, I mean, look at Turkish members here, most of them live outside Turkey. Why?
Why?
Because most were born and raised in Europe,so it was not a choise for this generation(third and fourth generation so about 50 years).
Our parents came from the 60s on as foreighn workers,most stayed here and started a future.
If you talk about the 60s,70s,80s,you could have a point.
You should stop using the Turks living in Europe as an excuse.
 
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I don't know to which time period you are reffering by that, but Turkey has always been a better country in almost every aspect than those shtholes in ME. No hard feelings.

You are surpassing us now, but as of 2008:
http://www.mbrfoundation.ae/English/...hapter 5.pdf

I'm not sure about other countries, but Jordan had better health care, education and less corruption and illiteracy than Turkey few years ago.
 
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That link doesn't work.

Share your sources with us about your claims.

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Check the sources attached to info:
Health in Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Corruption:

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List of countries by literacy rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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@what
See?! Not that far off from ME, ha?

However, I know Turkey is doing great now, but that doesn't mean others are not doing so. ;)
 
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There is no Turkey in those graphs except the two. And i have no idea what asimilation of technology, and quality of research institutions means.

It would be nice if you can share the source of these.
 
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To ALL obsessed with my fair ideology;

Though the west have been exploiting our sources and money in many years from the begining of republic set by west's puppet Ataturk fabricated leader, you still support the west. It is why you are traitor.

Ones as you ataturkists have always been a collaborator of west. It is why you are traitor, this country is ours not yours, you can't delete our existence in here in anyway. There is no point in waiting to abandon my country. All world belong islam and muslim, everywhere is our homeland.
 
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It is a study comparing Arab states within themselves, Turkey is only meantioned 7 times, in one of which it says:

A tabulation of all the Arab peerreviewed scientific publications in fortyseven scientific and technical specialisations published over the last ten years (1998-2007) reveals a total of 14,000 articles (22 Arab countries) (Figure 5-7 and Table 5-7), while Turkey alone published 9,800 studies during the same period.

And i don't really understand how this study is being enough for you say something like this: "I really doubt you were any better than any ME country"
 
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It is a study comparing Arab states within themselves, Turkey is only meantioned 7 times, in one of which it says:



And i don't really understand how this study is being enough for you say something like this: "I really doubt you were any better than any ME country"

Man I didn't want to go through this but I was asked for it. However, I specifically said that some ME countries including Jordan were better than Turkey in education, health care and had less corruption and illiteracy, plz, review my previous post.
 
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Man I didn't want to go through this but I was asked for it. However, I specifically said that some ME countries including Jordan were better than Turkey in education, health care and had less corruption and illiteracy, plz, review my previous post.

You said: I really doubt you were any better than any ME country. Dozens of other things such as human rights, political system, infrastructure, economic complexity etc... must have been taken into account while making such a claim instead of hand picking BS like corruption rate and technology assimilation.

As for the education, as i quoted from your own source, 22 Arab countries published 14.000 scientific articles between 1998-2007 while Turkey alone published 9,800.
 
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Whom do you refer when you are saying "this country is ours not yours". Fethullah, Hizbullah, El-kaide which one? Which ideology ?
 
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To ALL obsessed with my fair ideology;

Though the west have been exploiting our sources and money in many years from the begining of republic set by west's puppet Ataturk fabricated leader, you still support the west. It is why you are traitor.

Ones as you ataturkists have always been a collaborator of west. It is why you are traitor, this country is ours not yours, you can't delete our existence in here in anyway. There is no point in waiting to abandon my country. All world belong islam and muslim, everywhere is our homeland.

Thanks for the demonstration of how delusional you are. I very much like to see you in, say, Greece saying that in a crowded place. Please do that, i'm sure Allah will protect you.

Tutmayın küçük enişteyi :)
 
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@TurAr

Bro, He has a point. We are better than the most of the ME countries in terms of GDP, Exports, Military Strength.

But we are not very good in terms of GDP per capita, health care, education etc... You have to look this issue on citizen level. How one citizen benefits from health care, education etc...

We are progressing at a phenomenal rate, outshadowing almost all the EU and ME countries but not very good at the moment.
 
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To Sinan;

We are all muslim not collaborator of west living in turkey. TurAr you are rambleing the issue. You traitors support the enemy of my people and country, the west. The issue is that.

Whether say or not will not concern. All world need our fair ruling of islam, we will not exploiting anywhere by buying ones as you traitors, collaborators in there.

We are muslim and we are fair and pleasent for weak and poor people but sharpe for arrogant and unfair the westersns and their collaborators.
 
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