Epic Wagha border power display by Pakistan Rangers

[Shantanu_Left]

Not that tangibly manifested here in Pakistan...a Pathan driver or Mali(gardener) will kill his master if he was yelled haraami and haraamzada...
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Looking at the height, build, and size of those Rangers, I don't think ANYONE with sane mind will use those words.

 

[undercover JIX]

you noticed when Rangers switched places there was some discipline and protocol, but BSF soormas just casually walk back and walk in...

 

[SecularNationalist]

In a world of submachine guns, and Howitzers, you don't have to prove anything.

Not really and I disagree.
Infantry units or where on battle ground hand to hand combat occurs that body language confidence , attitude and strength matters a lot.

 

[Ashraf. M]

Are undergarments in short supply in Indian BSF?

Clowns.. wasting time

 

[SecularNationalist]

I have trained in martial arts. So I can tell what kind of opponent you shouldn't be picking on. Unless it's a life and death situation, of course.

Why can't these BSF bozos use their brains? They happily send Subedar Ranjeet Singh (whatever) everyday to be humiliated like this. Dude will break down at this rate.

You shouldn't be picking up fights you can't win.



That is correct. But he's more likely to be from Rajasthan. Even I'm not scared of those types, and I'm a non-military person.

Perhaps, they should be sending Sunny Deol to yell at that Ranger.

Most pakistani rangers at the wagah border are Punjabi jutts then fewer are baluchs and pathans. Baluchi and pathans are also known for their ferocious faces and we'll build bodies. Those are no doubt hand picked as you said. I am sure only men from Indian Punjab can compete with those rangers ,the rest of India doesn't produce faces and bodies suitable for this kind of job.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Pakistan rangers=Tom
BSF=Jerry

 

[Sohail Qamar Photography]

Of course at wagha border.

it's Ganda Singh Wala not Wahga

 

[I S I]

They made masks from their underwears due to shortage of PPE.

 

[Baghial]

Are undergarments in short supply in Indian BSF?

epic circus, of zoo........nothing more ,nothing less

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Not that tangibly manifested here in Pakistan...a Pathan driver or Mali(gardener) will kill his master if he was yelled haraami and haraamzada...




This multitude of servants and helpers/peons culture is present in Pakistan in govt. circle, might be of lesser extent than India as India has a huge population with extra helping hands to be fed.

Army Batman service is provided to even the retired Army men here...just one person for household help..

No, no NCBs are provided to retired officers.

And the indian mil culture unfortunately seems to be much more harsh where troops complain of actual physical and verbal abuse. Something that isnt tolerated in the Pak Mil. Perhaps because our overall culture also plays a role.

I don't know if it's the same in Pakistan side but I have been to BSF cantonments long ago (had family connections). Many junior-ranked BSF soldiers are abused and humiliated daily by senior officers for no reason. They bring groceries for their wives, drop their children at school, cook at the kitchen, maintain the gardens..always on personal duty for a senior officer.

There is a top-down bullying culture which is a legacy of colonial British army. The present day British army has moved on and are almost all professionally trained soldiers.

Yes, everywhere in the armed forces worldwide, the cadets and privates are abused and bullied. But in India, they are literally treated like servants by the senior officers.

I am not an expert but I think you certainly can't fight an opponent if your self-confidence is destroyed by your own higher-ups. That is why Indian armed forces have so many cases of mental illness.

Bullying should have a higher purpose. It cannot be the gratification of senior officers alone.

But again, it reflects the culture of India. It is also the prevailing mindset of Indian companies.

Junior = Servant

Batman culture was thrown out by Pak military almost 2 decades ago.

No Pakistani trooper/soldier serves as a batman, gardener or pick and drop guy.

Physical and verbal abuse is non existent unless you count PMA/cadet or recruit raghra or the occasional soldier getting pithu.

We however do have NCBs (non commissioned batmans) civilians hired by army.

To get some idea, I’ll leave the article by an indian professor:

https://qz.com/india/1487285/an-indians-trip-into-rawalpindis-pakistan-army-headquarters/amp/

There have even been incidents when a lt gens son got shot for not stopping at mil barriers.

 

[Shantanu_Left]

To get some idea, I’ll leave the article by an indian professor:

https://qz.com/india/1487285/an-indians-trip-into-rawalpindis-pakistan-army-headquarters/amp/

There have even been incidents when a lt gens son got shot for not stopping at mil barriers.

That's a very nice article. I will save it. This part summarizes everything. In Indian units, a similar guard would have been slapped for not being extra subservient to a high-ranked officer. At least he would have been scolded...he will never dare to look unfriendly to a senior officer. That is just not the culture in India. The underlings have to always suck up to the bosses. I absolutely hate this thing.

One would expect a liberal dose of subservience and docility when army soldiers meet their senior officers. But the interaction between the lowly soldier and the colonel sitting by my side in the army vehicle left me both puzzled and amazed.

The tall, bearded, well-built Pathan guard, wearing a bulletproof vest, with what looked like an AK-47 slung across his broad chest looked unfriendly and cold when he stiffly saluted the colonel.

 

[Mkhizar]

Of course at wagha border.

No, I don't think this particular video is from Wagha... I think there is an other border crossing where this ceremony is also held...
At Wagha proper stands are built on both sides of the road, however, in this video you can see very small number of people sitting on chairs behind the Ranger guy and a building behind him and no stands...

 

[krash]

where is this?

Of course at wagha border.

As others have pointed out, it's not Wahgah and is in fact Ganda Singh Border crossing. It's near Kasur.

No, I don't think this particular video is from Wagha... I think there is an other border crossing where this ceremony is also held...
At Wagha proper stands are built on both sides of the road, however, in this video you can see very small number of people sitting on chairs behind the Ranger guy and a building behind him and no stands...

Ganda Singh still has proper stands there, just that they are a lot smaller than Wahgah. You can't see them due to the angle that the video was shot from. The people in the chairs are VIPs. The stands there are also a lot closer to the opposing stands and the border line, which cuts diagonally across the "arena". It's much more up and close than Wahgah.

The stands in the background are the Pakistani side, while the people in the foreground are on the Indian side.

Another angle.

Fun Fact: The "arena" at Ganda Singh is so small and the border line at such an angle that the rangers on both sides have to cross over the border into the opposing side when lowering their respective flags.

 

[SIPRA]

Don't like it. Extremely ridiculous.

 

[PradoTLC]

Those hand-picked Pakistani ranger guys definitely look more ferocious.

so indian army is not selective in assigning roles?