Enough With The Indian Mig-21 Bison Versus Pakistani F-16 Viper Bullshit

[Microsoft]

Whatever rocks your boat buddy!

I'd rather not have a boat that rocks can I get smooth sailing instead?

 

[Rafi]

Whatever rocks your boat buddy!

Your no buddy, but our eternal enemy.

 

[proudindian20]

They were all accounted for by US. FP Magazine a credible publication with strong links to the US deep state confirmed. My little indian friend.

No such audit has taken place as reported by Pentagon so far.

 

[proudindian20]

Your no buddy, but our eternal enemy.

The feeling is mutual! Let's see who prevails at the end.

 

[GHALIB]

i think we need another round of war .

 

[Rafi]

The feeling is mutual! Let's see who prevails at the end.

My little indian friend, 1000s of years of history tell me a story.

 

[Rafi]

No such audit has taken place as reported by Pentagon so far.

My poor little indian friend, whatever helps you get through the day.

 

[Joe Shearer]

its pretty straightforward..its not about mig21 or su30 vs f16 or jf 17..it is because mig21 was jammed, blinded by superior tactics , AWECs and jammers at PAF side(which IAF lack) that caused the mig21 poor fate..

what this shows that while PAF has learned and moved on to 21th century warfare, IAF is still stuck in 20th century focusing on plateforms rather ten tactics and superior integrations.

This excerpt above demonstrates the strength and capability of the greatest ally of the IAF - the Pakistani fan-boy. While some may argue that this is unlikely to affect the operational capabilities of the formidable PAF, there is also the possibility - nothing more than a possibility, at the moment - that individuals at junior, middle and senior levels in the PAF may also hold similar views as the thought process being pushed out in the cited reference.

After ploughing through a long and elaborate description of tactics used by the IAF, and the use of situational awareness acquisition and dissemination even by SU30s, let alone by more strongly endowed AWACS aircraft, all this by the IAF, and the repeated references to the ELTA, we have a member insisting that the OP read back to front; that all those references meant that the IAF DID NOT have these factors working for them.

Incredible.

Then we have the eye-popping assertion that this proves that the PAF has learned and moved on to 21st century warfare; quite logical, considering that the entire article was about the effective use by the IAF of a combination of sensory options, data dissemination and use of the low radar signatures of the Bison, to conclude that these related to the PAF.

The point is if this can be the result of the mental thought process of a member sitting in the US, and not unduly constricted by a cramped world-view or by a blinkered vision and by such a vision's stultifying effect on the intellect, perhaps we might hope that a similar thought process might be taking place in the minds of far more directly concerned and actually combatant individuals.

 

[ziaulislam]

This excerpt above demonstrates the strength and capability of the greatest ally of the IAF - the Pakistani fan-boy. While some may argue that this is unlikely to affect the operational capabilities of the formidable PAF, there is also the possibility - nothing more than a possibility, at the moment - that individuals at junior, middle and senior levels in the PAF may also hold similar views as the thought process being pushed out in the cited reference.

After ploughing through a long and elaborate description of tactics used by the IAF, and the use of situational awareness acquisition and dissemination even by SU30s, let alone by more strongly endowed AWACS aircraft, all this by the IAF, and the repeated references to the ELTA, we have a member insisting that the OP read back to front; that all those references meant that the IAF DID NOT have these factors working for them.

Incredible.

Then we have the eye-popping assertion that this proves that the PAF has learned and moved on to 21st century warfare; quite logical, considering that the entire article was about the effective use by the IAF of a combination of sensory options, data dissemination and use of the low radar signatures of the Bison, to conclude that these related to the PAF.

The point is if this can be the result of the mental thought process of a member sitting in the US, and not unduly constricted by a cramped world-view or by a blinkered vision and by such a vision's stultifying effect on the intellect, perhaps we might hope that a similar thought process might be taking place in the minds of far more directly concerned and actually combatant individuals.

sir IAF claims it killed 300 people in camp despite eye popping crystal clear images from satellites, then IAF chief goes on public stating i dont believe these images..

we might be amateurs, have childish views and knowledge; but not even a 9 year kid makes claims as your IAF chief did. ..how can a neutral person think of any good of IAF when they read such laughable statements..

instead of correcting its course IAF shamelessly argues the world is flat

 

[kongn]

Question is where is the 2nd pilot that was in the hospital?Still recovering?

 

[CrazyZ]

RIP SU-30.

 

[ziaulislam]

Not even a single anaylsist including the most bizzare and idiotic one took IAF serious ..
This was the level of claims they made..

It seriously hurt any small impression of professionalism left in IAF

 

[Leviza]

As a matter of fact that day it was not just the MIG21 which went down by PAF
There was SU30MKI as well went down on Indian side
Killing their own helicopter in heat of the moment shows the lacking capabilities of IAF
There is no other proof needed for the blunders of IAF

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I believe the Indian narrative is correct. When Pakistan lied about not using F-16s for the Feb 26th skirmish, it became clear that they would lie about everything. I mean it's common sense when Indians even showed pieces of AMRAAM which only an F-16 can fire from their inventory...you know they are lying about everything else.

3 different Indian radars showed an F-16 disappearing few minutes before our Mig-21 was shot. You can't dispute that proof. Again, we showed the proof about F-16 were involved.

If Pakistan can deny they even used F-16, there is no way in hell that they will accept their F-16 was shot down by an Indian Mig-21.

It's your Indian establishment problem that they still haven't understood what was said and in turn, educate their population accordingly.

No F16 was used in the strike package. The weapons used , the standoff munitions, F16s cannot carry those weapon systems becuase they are made in Pakistan.

F16s were only doing their guard duties and took out hostile mig21 and su30.

Hope this helps.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

India was even not accepting Mig21 downing until ISPR came up with Abhinandhan video and bitch slapped them. Search youtube videos where all Indian news channels were reporting that "All Indian pilots are accounted for". This was their news headline from 10.00 am till 3.00 pm.