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Sharma to Morgan, 3 runs, 82.4 mph, oh dear, what's going on here? Morgan flicked it to deep square, where Praveen made a comical attempt at saving the ball, it looked funny but he actually did cut it off. The fielder thought it was four but it wasn't, the England batsmen thought it was four and by the time the throw came back in the batsmen were out their crease thinking it was tea. Off came the bails and now India are appealing for a run out! It could be out, should be even? That's pretty careless of the batsmen but had the umpires called tea? This Test has had everything, what can the umpires do here? OUT and it's Bell that has gone too. Should India have appealed there? It's a little bit like when New Zealand ran out Murali after Sangakkara made a century but it was careless from Bell. That said, as Bell walk off he's insisted that "he called over". Was over called? Rauf handed back Ishant's jumper after the bails were taken off so it's very possible he did. Update: Alan Wilkins says that on the way back, the umpires asked Dhoni is he wanted to withdraw the appeal retrospectively, but Dhoni said No. The decision stays - a more bizarre dismissal you will never see. Latest update, post tea: India have recalled Bell. The decision has been overturned. The crowd stops booing and starts cheering! MS Dhoni has suddenly become a hero. Another update, reportedly from Jonathan Aggers on TMS: Strauss and Flower went to the Indian dressing room at tea and asked Dhoni if he would withdraw the appeal. And Dhoni consented. The umpires did not have a part to play in it.


Tea That is a dramatic end to the session and a bizarre way for Bell to go. He played stunningly well but his dismissal has just altered the shape of the game again. The pitch is flattening out and India would be comfortable chasing plenty. That wicket might just have brought them back into it.

Latest update: India have recalled Bell. The decision has been overturned. This move is going to go a long way in ensuring things don't boil over. Stupendous gesture from Dhoni, assuming Praveen or the other fielders did not signal that was four.
This is Nitin Sundar to bring you the final session. Bell's dismissal gives India an opening, but I wonder if they can lift their spirits to have a real go at the lower middle order. Boos from the crowd as the umpires and players come out. Ravi Shastri says he has no issues with that dismissal.
Ok, so we have all the angles on run-out-gate out there. I suspect we are going to hear a lot about this in the coming days, and this series, funnily for no fault of the players, is taking on a little extra heat off the field. Here's hoping things don't boil over!
Clarification: Rauf handed the jumper over to Ishant after the bails were taken off, not before. Opinions flying thick and fast on commentary feedback. Was that sporting from Dhoni? Or was it within his rights? Was it plain lazy from Bell? Or did someone signal it was a boundary to him?
Narayan: "You have got to be kidding me. See the video everyone who is talking abt Dhoni's sportsmanship before talking. Morgan clearly signals wait by raising his hand to Bell but bell keeps running. The ball is still in play. i dont understand why Dhoni is being totured here."
Kamal: "Everyone remembers what Strauss did to Smith and What colly did against kiwis. No idea how come spirit of the game should be applied only to India."
Kuldeep: "This isn't good for cricket lovers... It would be so good if Dhoni calls off his appeal and get Bell on the field!"
Anurag: "I'm DESPERATE for India to win this match, but that's just cheating! Bad Karma always shows up; I'm scared!"
Robbie: "India's attitude in the field there - from Kumar's return to the taking off of the bails, suggested a four. Are we seeing football-style 'simulation' entering the game?"

What a sports man spirit shown by Dhoni

Most of the captains would have persisted with their decision and asked Umpire to give him out. Well Done dhoni - You are a real sportsman
 
and Ian Bell goes now

He played extremely well

159 runs by him
 
it was clearly out-

once the runner at other end is not interested in a run- the batsmen should retouch his bat across the line to be safe-
it was a miscalculation by ian bell and he thought it was a four- he thought wrong his mistake- so he was clearly out-

tbh i dont like such sanity/sportsmanship being shown by asian players/captain all the time- when the english players do not waste any such opprtunity- one prime example being the Vaseline laxman incident-
 
he was out!!!!!
he ran half of the pitch and the when the ball was thrown he start walking.......... baiman
 
Brilliant sportsmanship by Dhoni?? I dont think so. He was told to back down by the management. You could see the umpires asked him twice whether he was sure he wanted to appeal. When he was in the changing room he was forced to back track. Its that simple.
Regarding the vaseline on the bat incident with Laxman i think thats simply not true. It would have still lit up when under hotspot.
What is daft is that India have shot themselves in the foot. They are poorly prepared for this game with lack of test match cricket as they decided to rest their big guns against the West Indies.
Also i think its disgraceful that India have the right to pick and choose whether an LBW can be reviewed. All other test playing nations have accepted it. Why do they believe they are different? Its worked against them anyway because clearly Habarjan was NOT out yesterday.
 
Brilliant sportsmanship by Dhoni?? I dont think so. He was told to back down by the management. You could see the umpires asked him twice whether he was sure he wanted to appeal. When he was in the changing room he was forced to back track. Its that simple.
Regarding the vaseline on the bat incident with Laxman i think thats simply not true. It would have still lit up when under hotspot.

By cricket rules it was Out.

Strauss and Andy Flower went to Indian dressing room to meet with Dhoni and request him to withdraw his appeal. He agreed and the decision was revoked.

By law, a decision can be revoked before the next ball is played and since that was the last ball before tea - they had time to think about it.
 
Brilliant sportsmanship by Dhoni?? I dont think so. He was told to back down by the management. You could see the umpires asked him twice whether he was sure he wanted to appeal. When he was in the changing room he was forced to back track.

And who was this "Management " who "forced" him to "back track"...? Umpires..? they had already given their decision ..
Strauss and Flower..? They did not have a say in this matter ...
Indian team ..? will they go against Dhoni..?
Indian Management ..? again will they go against Dhoni ..?
 
I think Dhoni simply messed up the opportunity. He should not have back tracked. If somebody is "OUT" as per cricketing rule, then its final.

If a wrong decision gets unnoticed and some player helps to correct the same, that can be termed as sportsmanship.
 
I think Dhoni simply messed up the opportunity. He should not have back tracked. If somebody is "OUT" as per cricketing rule, then its final.

If a wrong decision gets unnoticed and some player helps to correct the same, that can be termed as sportsmanship.

I agree. Fletcher (team manager) is a weak person and had influenced Dhoni. If Laxman or Tendulkar was given out in that situation the English would NOT have done the same.I believe India may not be number 1 by the end of this series.
 
Dhoni, After winning world Cups (one day and 20-20) and becoming captain of No1 test team, now showing Over generosity to English team to to become so called legend in English media and get "applause" from "booing" crowd? :undecided:
Whoever has influenced his decision,its finally him who will be accountable for the result of the game and series.
 
Bresnan to Mukund, OUT, brilliant ball from Bresnan, Mukund was clueless against that bouncer, no idea how to keep that steepler down, he tries to fend at it, edged to first slip, a spiteful delivery from Bresnan does the job, India 31 for 3
 
India 288 & 31/3 (14.0 ov)
India require another 447 runs with 7 wickets remaining
 
India 288 & 31/3 (14.0 ov)
India require another 447 runs with 7 wickets remaining
 
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