End of USA as world's lone superpower?

[jetray]

I did not factor in the stupid vote at the UN. Like USA overtook Britain like so will China. It's all about the economy. The trend.

you forget the fact that china is still in a western created system. dollar reigns supreme. US & western countries still hold the ace, to think that china can outwit western world in their own system is a bit far fetched.

 

[VCheng]

you forget the fact that china is still in a western created system. dollar reigns supreme. US & western countries still hold the ace, to think that china can outwit western world in their own system is a bit far fetched.

No Sir. As PDF is often told, the dollar is dead.



But seriously, there is no doubt that China is a major, and a rising power.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Say Israel has a cure for Cancer and they want to hold back from giving it to Arab countries. How could they pull it off without looking like the ultimate bad guy? They organize an obvious lame useless vote about their capital. Then they a few months later announce this cure and say the "trials" will start in their favorite UN countries. They expect the trials to last at oh least a dozen years...

Israel does not have a cure for cancer, so your argument is utter rubbish.

 

[F-22Raptor]

This topic was more relevant a decade ago when the economy was collapsing. Not today when the US is adding hundreds of billions of dollars to its economy a quarter.

 

[MultaniGuy]

This topic was more relevant a decade ago when the economy was collapsing. Not today when the US is adding hundreds of billions of dollars to its economy a quarter.

lol don't kid yourself.

China is a rising economic might. China will overtake USA in economic terms eventually. China has the world's largest population in the world.

It pays to know facts properly.

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USA came into the lead only after WW2 when the dollar replaced the sterling.

Doesn't change the fact that China will eventually eclipse the USA in nominal economic terms. Perhaps China already has eclipsed USA in economic terms.

 

[jamal18]

This topic was more relevant a decade ago when the economy was collapsing. Not today when the US is adding hundreds of billions of dollars to its economy a quarter.

Yes. By printing it.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Israel does not have a cure for cancer, so your argument is utter rubbish.

Do you also have a reading comprehension problem? I’m saying I think they have SOMETHING. I’m just giving example scenarios like Nuclear Fusion or a Cancer cure.

 

[VCheng]

Doesn't change the fact that China will eventually eclipse the USA in nominal economic terms. Perhaps China already has eclipsed USA in economic terms.

There is a wee bit more to being a superpower than just the economy, methinks.

 

[F-22Raptor]

lol don't kid yourself.

China is a rising economic might. China will overtake USA in economic terms eventually. China has the world's largest population in the world.


Doesn't change the fact that China will eventually eclipse the USA in nominal economic terms. Perhaps China already has eclipsed USA in economic terms.

If that's the case then why has China lost ground the last 5 years in GDP and total national wealth to the US?

 

[MultaniGuy]

There is a wee bit more to being a superpower than just the economy, methinks.

Yes it will take time for China to rival the USA in cultural terms and military terms.

If that's the case then why has China lost ground the last 5 years in GDP and total national wealth to the US?

Ummm...what are you talking about.

China is about to eclipse USA in economic terms yankee!

Keep dreaming about whatever you are saying.

Perhaps China can rival the Americans culturally by saying China is a thousands year old civilization, and etc.

 

[VCheng]

Yes it will take time for China to rival the USA in cultural terms and military terms.

How much time would it take by your estimate?

 

[ARMalik]

US was once a mighty power, and its forefather believed in principles of freedom and betterment of humanity. Somewhere along the line, some really crooked people who happened to be of jewish background, took complete control of this once mighty country, and literally rap.ed it. Just look at the positions of Power in the US; there are huge number of jews in the government keeping a tap on everything the US president does. Turn any stone in DC and they are there. Even Trump's son-in law is a jew with deep ties to the Israeli PM Bibi. The media, the Hollywood, major corporations are all controlled by them.

They took the right of US government to control its own economy and gave it away to the US Federal Reserve, which is a private entity with private shareholders. The gold backing of the US money was abolished. The US Federal reserve started printing money out of thin air whenever it liked. And this how the big deception began.

These frauds would print US dollar out of thin air and literally flood the whole World with US dollar systematically. Big US lenders would lend this phony money to other banks in other parts of the world on extremely cheap interest rates; institutions like the US created IMF and World Bank would lend out money to Governments. Big US corporations would go on a spending spree in poorer countries and buy valuable real assets, example, mines, land, agriculture, roads, airports, etc.

Then the US Federal Reserve would start raising interest rates. Ordinary people, big and small businesses would start to fail.

These big bankers would then walk in and take over the real wealth of these people, businesses and the governments. The US military was turned into a gang of debt collectors so that countries and corporations who refused to pay were invaded and destroyed.

This is how these frauds took over nearly the whole of this planet, and started controlling even the air a human breathes in.

Thus, US started to die the day the US government was handed over to these frauds. And it is now coming to a head end. Countries like China and Russia have waken up to the biggest fraud in history, and have started putting obstacles to this game. It is not going to be easy. For their control to remain, and for this fraud to continue, these leeches in US will start a world war if they have to keep the system going.

 

[MultaniGuy]

How much time would it take by your estimate?

Maybe as early as 2025, China can rival the Americans culturally.

Perhaps even by 2020.

 

[royalharris]

The US economy has outpaced China the last 5 years in both real dollars added to GDP and total national wealth. China's economy will slow down over time especially as they head into their demographic crisis years. On the other hand. U.S. demographics are much more favorable over the mid to long term. The US is a full spectrum superpower. China will never reach that status.

Yes
May you happy super power

 

[VCheng]

Big US lenders would lend this phony money to other banks in other parts of the world on extremely cheap interest rates

But why would banks take such "phony" money in other parts of the world? Are they stupid?

Maybe as early as 2025, China can rival the Americans culturally.

Perhaps even by 2020.

In two years, may be 7? Wow, that will be fun to watch and discuss here soon.